Vaigai Puyal "Imsai Arasan" Vadivelu

[Bala (Karthik)]

On this pure "original" thing. How do we know for sure if somebody is 100% original, as against 70% original? Real life la (or some stage performer) yaraiyavadhu paathu influence airukka mudiyaadha? Or more than one, for that matter?
Naama sirikkaroma, performance work aagudhaa illaya-ngaradhu dhaan matter.

Of course, i get Groucho's point - Vadivel Balaji-a rasikka mudiyaadhu (like i find Chaplin Chellappa unfunny now), i know. It's just that there is an overemphasized correlation of influence on (lack of) originality/creativity. As in, it's difficult to envision a world where someone is "100%" original.

Same old argument (IMHO): Led Zeppelin vs some Ghazal dude's "original" comps or
Raaja's "Veetukku veetukku vaasappadi" or Rahman's "Konjam Nilavu" vs S.A Rajkumar's patented original "Rosappu sinna rosaappu"

[Bala (Karthik)]

the kOzhi vaangura scene where he runs at breakneck speed

The way he says "chamathu ra nee"

Sundarapurushan is another classic olli vadivelu
The mono-acting scene when he enters bayilvan ranganathan's house

Youtube link irundha kudukkavum. Remba naala theditrukken. Remember this only from my memory of watching it few/many years back

he is taken aback, he laughs, overcome with joy, siluvar pEtri (torch), peerOLu (bureau), peerOLukku peerOLu (locker).. adap pOngadA
It's like there is more than he can ask for....and then he talks to his defunct father, who is not around to see him 'earn'

indha maadhiri oNNu reNdu veedu irundhA naan appadiyE pick-up paNNi pOyiruvempA (kEvi kEvi azhudhukkittE solluvaapla )

All the time looking up at the sky, he is conversing while rummaging through the findings, which include a pattu vEtti, he is trying to tie. So he excuses himself from the conversation to wear the vEtti: "suththirrEn pA, suththirrEn"

Outrageously funny.


It only gets better when bayilvan comes and he pretends to be a police officer talking over phone. Just imagine, he is caught red-handed, caught by the scruff of the neck and tries to talk his way through, purportedly to some senior officer: "family-ai pArththA remba kEvalamAna family-yA dhaan saar irukku", "ellAm maximum cover paNNittEn saar" and then "aamaam saar, mOdharam pOttirukkAn saar" and snatches the ring

And the sign off "ok ok ok ok ok ok (slips 'phone' into undraayar pocket)


The funniest part is bayilvan has not bought this one bit and is watching with farce and catches him again.

Livingstone arbitrates and gives his ring as compensation to bayilvan to end the issue. Vadivelu feels bayilwan does not deserve graceful compensation. He snatches the ring, keeps it on his foot and extends it to bayilwan

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[Saai]

On this pure "original" thing. How do we know for sure if somebody is 100% original, as against 70% original? Real life la (or some stage performer) yaraiyavadhu paathu influence airukka mudiyaadha? Or more than one, for that matter?
Naama sirikkaroma, performance work aagudhaa illaya-ngaradhu dhaan matter.

Of course, i get Groucho's point - Vadivel Balaji-a rasikka mudiyaadhu (like i find Chaplin Chellappa unfunny now), i know. It's just that there is an overemphasized correlation of influence on (lack of) originality/creativity. As in, it's difficult to envision a world where someone is "100%" original.

Same old argument (IMHO): Led Zeppelin vs some Ghazal dude's "original" comps or
Raaja's "Veetukku veetukku vaasappadi" or Rahman's "Konjam Nilavu" vs S.A Rajkumar's patented original "Rosappu sinna rosaappu"

I actually did not use originality word - I used - natural and spontaneity. In old comedies, the preparedness is very evident. "Look this is a funny line" timing and some unfunny slapsticks. This "ahA eeii" is what I called spontaneous and natural...that which comes with the flow...like a tea time fun.

The above factor is very tightly related to the originality and I think thats what Groucho mean too

[Plum]

I can't remember now Bala but rosappoo chinna rosappoo reminds me of some Raja 80s song. Saniyan, samayam pArthu thoNdaikuzhikuLLa sikkikittu veLila varamAttEngudhu

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

On this pure "original" thing. How do we know for sure if somebody is 100% original, as against 70% original? Real life la (or some stage performer) yaraiyavadhu paathu influence airukka mudiyaadha? Or more than one, for that matter?
Naama sirikkaroma, performance work aagudhaa illaya-ngaradhu dhaan matter.

yes it is ferfaamans and the impact it made on us that matter. but original naa, unga defenition padi paathaa kooda, the 1st guy who brings on cinema screen, what he saw on stage or real life is generally considered original. And also, there are many many such original thingi he makes. One general note is, all this is madurai behaviour. may be or may not be.

[P_R]

Youtube link irundha kudukkavum. Remba naala theditrukken. Remember this only from my memory of watching it few/many years back

Sundarapurushan is not on youtube. Someone must do the needful.

[SoftSword]

naanum netthu fulla thedinen... edho malayala padam dhaan varudhu..

[P_R]

soonapaanaa

eppadi seththA eppadi seththA eppadi seththA

[KV]

indha thread appappo kaanaama poidudhu pa... yEnpa, ivartta evalo ilites irukku... adikkadi nalla eduththu sollunga.
just reading some of the old posts... P_R

" siluvar pEtri (torch), peerOLu (bureau), peerOLukku peerOLu (locker).. adap pOngadA

indha maadhiri oNNu reNdu veedu irundhA naan appadiyE pick-up paNNi pOyiruvempA (kEvi kEvi azhudhukkittE solluvaapla)"

"suththirrEn pA, suththirrEn"

[groucho070]

Does he have any movie commitment now? Poor feller...