The Greatest Indian Epic - Mahabharath

**Avadi to America** · 30th June 2010, 02:05 AM

what was shaguni's real motivation in mahabarath? is that he wants to destroy gouravas? and it can be done only by pandavas....so he made feud between gouravas and pandavas....please clear my doubt.

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**PARAMASHIVAN** · 30th June 2010, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Avadi to America

what was shaguni's real motivation in mahabarath? is that he wants to destroy gouravas? and it can be done only by pandavas....so he made feud between gouravas and pandavas....please clear my doubt.

Shaguni's motivation was to Crown Duryodhana as the Prince, this was not possible until the Pandavas were eliminated. As Pandu (Pandavas Father) already made it clear that it would be Yudishtar who will rule the country after him.

**Iqbalvora** · 30th June 2010, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

Originally Posted by Avadi to America

what was shaguni's real motivation in mahabarath? is that he wants to destroy gouravas? and it can be done only by pandavas....so he made feud between gouravas and pandavas....please clear my doubt.

Shaguni's motivation was to Crown Duryodhana as the Prince, this was not possible until the Pandavas were eliminated. As Pandu (Pandavas Father) already made it clear that it would be Yudishtar who will rule the country after him.

Hello ParamaShivan,

Are you scripting a new Mahabarath !

**Iqbalvora** · 30th June 2010, 03:04 PM

Paramashiva

Pandu dies unceremoniously in forest while mating with Madri ( a curse on him ). Beeshma/Vidur bring the pandava kids to Hastinapur to groom them.
So, Pandu is gone well before he can take a decision on his succession. Infact he hands over his right to Dirudrashtra and decides to live in forest .

**littlemaster1982** · 1st July 2010, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Avadi to America

what was shaguni's real motivation in mahabarath? is that he wants to destroy gouravas? and it can be done only by pandavas....so he made feud between gouravas and pandavas....please clear my doubt.

Saguni didn't like his sister Gandhaari being married to a blind man. He was angry that such a match was made by Bhismar and he vowed to destroy the whole clan. This is what I have read.

**PARAMASHIVAN** · 2nd July 2010, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Iqbalvora

Paramashiva

Pandu dies unceremoniously in forest while mating with Madri ( a curse on him ).
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This a very common thing in our 'Great' epics, I mean adultry

Originally Posted by Iqbalvora

Beeshma/Vidur bring the pandava kids to Hastinapur to groom them.
So, Pandu is gone well before he can take a decision on his succession. Infact he hands over his right to Dirudrashtra and decides to live in forest .

Yes I know that, but by default Yudishar was going to be the next ruler, after Dirudrashtra.

**PARAMASHIVAN** · 2nd July 2010, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Originally Posted by Avadi to America

what was shaguni's real motivation in mahabarath? is that he wants to destroy gouravas? and it can be done only by pandavas....so he made feud between gouravas and pandavas....please clear my doubt.

Saguni didn't like his sister Gandhaari being married to a blind man. He was angry that such a match was made by Bhismar and he vowed to destroy the whole clan. This is what I have read.

This is the first time I hearing this

**P_R** · 2nd July 2010, 04:02 PM

When Bhishma (or someone from the Kuru clan) captures Gandhar, he jails the entire royal family inlcuding Shakuni as a child. The whole family was given food for just one person. Instead of all of them starving to death by sharing the insufficient food, they decided that the child would get all the food and make it his life mission to avenge the Kuru clan. Which is what he did.

The dice used by Shakuni (which he always has in his hand) are made from the bones of his father, to perpetually remind him of his duty.

**podalangai** · 3rd July 2010, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by P_R

When Bhishma (or someone from the Kuru clan) captures Gandhar, he jails the entire royal family inlcuding Shakuni as a child. The whole family was given food for just one person. Instead of all of them starving to death by sharing the insufficient food, they decided that the child would get all the food and make it his life mission to avenge the Kuru clan. Which is what he did.

The dice used by Shakuni (which he always has in his hand) are made from the bones of his father, to perpetually remind him of his duty.

Is this story actually in Vyasa's Mahabharata? I've always thought it was one of those interesting variants from folklore, rather than something that was part of the classical text.

**Arvind Srinivasan** · 30th March 2012, 10:29 PM

From what I've heard, gandhari was married to a goat to avert a calamity before marrying Dhritarashtra. When Dhritarashtra came to know of this he imprisoned the entire gandhar clan. In prison, they were served just one fistful of rice every day. Realizing that this was an elaborate plan to starve them to death, Gandhari’s father declared that none but his youngest son would eat the sparse food being served, so that at least one amongst them would survive to avenge the death of the rest. The youngest son of king Subala was Shakuni. He survived and swore not to rest until all of Kuru kingdom is destroyed . He used the bones of his father to make the dice with which he was able to defeat the Pandavas in the gambling match, and thus which eventually led to the war at Kurukshetra and also to the destruction of entire Kuru clan.His father twisted his one leg to give him a permanent limp as a constant reminder of revenge. Guess the dice used by shakuni was made of his father's ashes......