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10th April 2012, 07:29 PM
#851
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Originally Posted by
MumbaiRamki
appa sureshmechnit ..sandhosama .. unnaa irundha makkala ippadi sanda poda vechutiye !
Exactly!. As I mentioned a couple of days back, this is a futile topic. It will go on and on, inviting unfair comments on both the composers. I fail to understand the purpose of discussing this topic time and again. IMHO, it's just rabble-rousing...
Generally speaking, we appreciate a certain BGM piece because we like the melody in it, or because it manages to connect us with the scene, leaving a lasting impression. (On a side-note, IR proved it many times that he doesn't need actors or well conceived scenes to elevate his BGMs. He has given stunning melodies for opening and ending credits in many movies, which do not involve actors or their expressions in any form). While I do appreciate sureshmechnit's efforts behind the article, with all due respect, I don't think we need to analyze, dissect the BGM at this level, just to convince ourselves that the BGM is good. If it were really good, we would have noticed it already.
Comping to my personal opinion, though ARR, GVP, Yuvan, DSP etc have come up with good BGMs once in a while, none can hold a candle to Ilayaraja.
My 2c.
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10th April 2012 07:29 PM
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10th April 2012, 07:32 PM
#852
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Varuga varuga Maddy. Vara vechuttom pArunga
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10th April 2012, 07:36 PM
#853
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Teja, now that you have put it in such a logical manner, I am sure everyone will agree. Ennatha dissection, analysis. Opinion dhaanE mukkiyam?
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10th April 2012, 07:50 PM
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10th April 2012, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by
MumbaiRamki
appa sureshmechnit ..sandhosama .. unnaa irundha makkala ippadi sanda poda vechutiye !
idhai vambadiyai andha blogla potrundhaa avar happypattukkuvaar. inga poattu enna punniyam..
maaplaingaLa - anga irukku ennore M*** sandhu. angittu eduthuttu ponga meenbody vandiyai. enga aaL (suresh-chicken-65) romba Nallavarrrr..
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10th April 2012, 08:19 PM
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jai,
yov
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10th April 2012, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Varuga varuga Maddy. Vara vechuttom pArunga

//thanks Plum.........i was always here but work was killing - paper pottaachu....career enna career-ngren, HUB-la time spend panna mudiyama :P //
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10th April 2012, 10:06 PM
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Rahman is an Oscar winner for BGM, while IR is not. This surely means Rahman atleast knows how to score BGM
That said, I feel Rahman and IR's style are different. For Slumdog Millionaire, Rahman himself mentioned he was given 26 cues (or some technical term like that). He had come up with 26 melodies capturing the mood. Note, melody is the forte of Rahman (and I think it is an innate Indian musician's strength). Overwhelmed by the power of his melodies, the Academy gave away the statuettes to him.
Another strength of Rahman is - he understands the structure of current BGM and songs in America/Europe very well and plays well within the framework.
Going by my miniscule knowledge of music and the comments from western reviewers of IR's music, I think he is more of a non-conformist. His structure of songs and maybe BGMs might be different from the American/European contemporary works. This is my guess, that he might have trouble appealing to the West and winning any awards. I do know the Hungarian musicians called him "hollywood kind". Maybe I am wrong and one day IR will win an Oscar and we can have much more heated debates
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10th April 2012, 10:34 PM
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Maddy -
. Actually, ivlo dhooram vandhachu - let me express my opinion. I personally think BGM is not a natural passion for Rahman. His passion and stated mission was to change the paradigm of popular music in TN/India. I think Films are just a medium for that ambition for him. With Raja, I think for all his protestations about film music shackling him, it is when presented with emotions in very specific context that his creativity flies high (I.em) bgm is a natural passion for him. As such, Rahman has been more celebrated for what he is and what he wanted to be - I think he has been very very blessed that way. Raja and his BGM skills that define him are celebrated only in TN. I also believe that Rahman might even have been annoyed initially with BGM duties. His later works see him getting better in BGM - imo atleast. I think if it is possible to quit movies and work through Albums alone that can express his vison of what popular music should be unfettered by pesky directorial vison, Rahman might even quit movies.
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10th April 2012, 11:12 PM
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