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					26th April 2012, 01:03 PM
				
			
			
				
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							P_R light-a racial tone eruku on clubbing mercenaries on colour  I say open the floodgates..enn entha preferential treatment on getting to choose..OZ had a ATG test team for the likes of Goodwin to get in may be if Eng had the same home grown talent on batting front then ECB would have least cared/bothered for SA/Ire/Zim players in realizing their test dreams or promoting Ire. ECB are just using these countries as a feeder system to paper over their teams cracks enbatha thaen query I say open the floodgates..enn entha preferential treatment on getting to choose..OZ had a ATG test team for the likes of Goodwin to get in may be if Eng had the same home grown talent on batting front then ECB would have least cared/bothered for SA/Ire/Zim players in realizing their test dreams or promoting Ire. ECB are just using these countries as a feeder system to paper over their teams cracks enbatha thaen query also with Morgon misfiring in tests would ECB allow/release him to play for his country in limited overs in lieu of promoting Ire cricket also with Morgon misfiring in tests would ECB allow/release him to play for his country in limited overs in lieu of promoting Ire cricket  
 
 
 
 
				
				
				
					 
				
				
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					26th April 2012, 01:05 PM
				
			
			
				
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							Oh Ippo amerikkava??. Rightu vidunga   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					26th April 2012, 01:25 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  wizzy  
 P_R light-a racial tone eruku on clubbing mercenaries on colour   
 
 
 ? White people from the colonies have always flitted back and forth. It is a long tradition- is all I am saying. Which is why I don't find it odd. I am not saying England should allow only white player. ippo Philanderukku oru thambi irukkAn. avanukku SA-la saans kidaikkalainnA, pOtri paadhukaaththu aravaNaikka koodaadhunnu naan solluvEnA 
 
 It is in that context that I wanted to understand if there are any Afrikaaners playing for Holland.
 indha payyan thennAppirikkA pOla irukkE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_ten_Doeschate
 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  wizzy  
  I say open the floodgates..enn entha preferential treatment on getting to choose..OZ had a ATG test team for the likes of Goodwin to get in may be if Eng had the same home grown talent on batting front then ECB would have least cared/bothered for SA/Ire/Zim players in realizing their test dreams or promoting Ire. ECB are just using these countries as a feeder system to paper over their teams cracks enbatha thaen query    also with Morgon misfiring in tests would ECB allow/release him to play for his country in limited overs in lieu of promoting Ire cricket   
 
 
 Of course, who is denying this? Dorset-la nalla aattakkAran irundhA edhukku Durban-kaaranukku plane ticket edukka pOrAinga.
 
 And now with immigration it is all the more the case. But people going from all over to England, does not strike me as odd. If Sanga had decided to settle in Eng after studies and play there (mind you he'd've played school cricket in SL, which is pretty big), I wouldn't've found that as odd either. i.e. even though SL is a test playing nation.
 
 Cricket is merely reflecting what is happening is every field in such countries.
 
 If India were to do it in the name of what you guys call 'level playing field' then it would seem very unnatural to me.
 
 
 
 
				
				
				
				
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					26th April 2012, 01:45 PM
				
			
			
				
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							P_R  appo Md.Amir/Asif/Owais Shah playing for India would be natural immigration I suppose and you have no qualms if Sanga plays for Eng however have issues with Goodwin playing for Pak  does ECB spend monies on these mercenaries from their grass root level so they get to have the first pick over other countries..these mercenaries honed/learnt their trade thanks to their parent board...ethay cape maari thanatha India panna unnatural-a?..doesn't sound natural to me does ECB spend monies on these mercenaries from their grass root level so they get to have the first pick over other countries..these mercenaries honed/learnt their trade thanks to their parent board...ethay cape maari thanatha India panna unnatural-a?..doesn't sound natural to me P.S appadiya appo Eng'landu yaar aadina unnatural-a erukkumunu solunga P.S appadiya appo Eng'landu yaar aadina unnatural-a erukkumunu solunga  
 
 
 
 
				
				
				
					
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					26th April 2012, 01:57 PM
				
			
			
				
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							Feeyar - you are getting ridiculous and ridiculous. Who are you to define "natural immigration"? WTH is traditio? If India imports white fast bowlers for another 20 years, it will become a tradition by 2037. You are exposing yourself more and more as a closet Englishman by mentality. There is no difference between the unnatural immigration that horrors you even in thought and the kepmaarithanam(hattip wizzy) going on in England now. You are just like a blind Manchester United/Arsenal supporter inventing excuses for your club's behaviour( that should hurt, shouldn't it? )
						 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					26th April 2012, 02:13 PM
				
			
			
				
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							Dialog in PP
 
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					26th April 2012, 02:17 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Plum  
 Manchester United/Arsenal supporter 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Plum  
 Who are you to define "natural immigration"? 
 
 
 oru indhiya kudimagan. What seems natural to me solREn. What is there?
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  Plum  
  If India imports white fast bowlers for another 20 years, it will become a tradition by 2037. 
 
 
 adhai neenga solradhukku munnAdiyE sollittEnE. You 'seek to build a new world'-nu. enakku pudikkAlai. If kind of developments (?!) is what it will lead to, then England will have to sadly put an end to the hallowed tradition of having players from everywhere come and play for England (just like people from everywhere take up jobs and settle down there now).
 
 oru vELai indhiyA vallarasu aanappuRam, I may feel such things are natural. Certainly not now.
 ippo nEpAlkaara gurkhA maadhiri naturalA irundhA right 'ngrEn. That's the limit I can conceive/.
 
 But domestic airlines foreign pilot vachchukkuradhu illaiyA adhu maadhiri cricket paNNuvOm 'ngreenga. I understand, but I don't agree.
 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  Plum  
  There is no difference between the unnatural immigration that horrors you even in thought and the kepmaarithanam(hattip wizzy) going on in England now 
 
 
 There is a whole world of a difference as I believe I have explained above.
 
 
 
 
				
				
				
				
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					26th April 2012, 02:20 PM
				
			
			
				
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							What the devil that has got to do with the discussion here?  
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  P_R  
 America has an unfair economic advantage in that the cream from everywhere migrate there. 
 Harry Potter also same problem.
 
 
 
 Of course you wouldn't.
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  P_R  
 idhukku mEla kondhaLilkkiRadhukku edhuvumE illai. 
 
 
 
 Australia kaaran Odhaipaan 
 No sir. They are NOT. Commonwealth-nnu irundhaalum they are seperate COUNTRIES.
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  P_R  
 England, Scotland, Wales, white men from all over Africa, Australia, New Zealand ellAm oNNukkuLLa oNNu saar.
 Does Holland have any Dutch SAfricans playing. I wouldn't be surprised and it wouldn't irk me either. Natural.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					26th April 2012, 02:36 PM
				
			
			
				
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							P_R unga natural immigration logic padi nallaikae if Mallya/Kumble do a ECB by getting Gayle a job in B'lore/marry him to Tulu gal so he could play for Karnataka in Ranjis and as a domestic Indian player for RCB...would that be fair on other domestic/IPL teams?..Gayle like Morgan can also realize his test dreams by playing for India   
 
 
 
 
				
				
				
				
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					26th April 2012, 02:37 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  wizzy  
 P_R  appo Md.Amir/Asif/Owais Shah playing for India would be natural immigration I suppose 
 
 
 Owais Englishkaaran dhaanE (like Shahzad, Sajid Mehmood, Monty - illaiyA?)
 Let me clarify it would be odd to 'steal' an international player. But to get someone in contention to sign-up not a problem.
 
 This guy Anwar Ali, doesn't seem to be playing for Pakistan. Wouldn't you love it if he could play for India?
 It wouldn't strike me as odd.
 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  wizzy
 you have no qualms if Sanga plays for Eng however have issues with Goodwin playing for Pak 
 
 
 Not now yA. I meant, if Sanga had chosen to make his debut for England instead of SL, I wouldn't've found it odd.
 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  wizzy
 does ECB spend monies on these mercenaries from their grass root level so they get to have the first pick over other countries.. 
 
 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  wizzy
 these mercenaries honed/learnt their trade thanks to their parent board.. 
 
 
 These are all the good old brain-drain arguments.
 I do see that, just like people chose to go to America and England, now cricketers may choose to come to India.
 
 But you guys are not truly proposing that, are you? You are saying 'nobody should go and play for England'. That's your ideal preference.
 If that is not happening then you want them to come and play for India too. Did I understand correctly?
 
 I disagree. Cricket 'ngradhE oru paarambariyam dhaanungagaLE.
 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  wizzy
 Eng'landu yaar aadina unnatural-a erukkumunu solunga 
 
 
 England-ku yaar aadinaalum unnaturalA irukkAdhu. Same for Aus or any developed country. namakku oru silarai thavira yaar aadinaalum odd-A irukkum.
 konjam racistAvE solREnE..oru veLLaikaaranai thiduthippunnu India-ku kootti vandhu, ivan dhaan unga opening bowler-nu sonnA semma comedy-A irukkum 
 
 btw as I write this I realized the much talked about 'Sonia is a foreigner' issue is a complete non-matter to me. I even find it quite contemptible that such a thing was made an issue at all. enakkE indha contradictionukku badhil theriyalai.
 
 
 
 
				
				
				
				
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