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13th May 2012, 12:36 AM
#761
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Yes, that's the scene. Just right before they depart on ferry. Mahanadhi ellam parkurathuku onnu masochista irukanum, illa manasu kalla irukanum. I think I'm a bit of masochist-nu. Despite breaking my heart every few minutes in it's running time I still watch Mahanadhi atleast once a year.Athukku mela parkira thairiyam illai.
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13th May 2012 12:36 AM
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13th May 2012, 06:57 AM
#762
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Originally Posted by
Stardust
It's a heart wrenching scene and I'm not ready to click play yet.
same here
Never argue with a fool or he will drag you down to his level and beat you at it through sheer experience!
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14th May 2012, 12:57 AM
#763
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Originally Posted by
Stardust
Thanks for the video Joe. It's a heart wrenching scene and I'm not ready to click play yet.
இன்னொரு தடவை குலுங்கிக்குலுங்கி அழுதாச்சு
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14th May 2012, 01:03 AM
#764
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Watched 'bAbul' (2006) that had the intro "from the bAghban team" (DVD from public library)...
First pAthi padu mOsam, still watched as a Hindi education exercise...second pAthi sumAr.
I thought Mumbai is far advanced but this movie portrays as if widow-remarriage had been frowned upon even in 2006
(Sarika plays a widow and utters just one dialog in the whole movie, for the climax)...other cast : deer KhAn, queen Mukherji, Aish kA mAmanAr, Sunny Deol ki chithi as his beevi, ardh-sathyA Om Puri & one male model as 3rd hero...
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14th May 2012, 01:21 AM
#765
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Fantastic scene
What absolutely brilliant writing first of all. Kamal is silent throughout.
Not only the horror of finding his daughter in the brothel, but also the unspeakable horror of being suspected of abducting her and being beaten up for it. And the only voice we hear trying to explain is the weak-loser voice of Poornam Viswanathan. The very conceptualization is astounding.
Poornam - the believer, the wisher of good, the only who resigns to fate and wants to live in a peaceful corner - falls at the feet of the pimp and prostitute. Is a thoroughly ineffective advocate in the situation. When the Tamilspeaking madam comes, he totally flops and blabbers and can't even string together a sentence. Overwhelmed by the situation and emotions (solliNdE irukkEn, adikkaREL neenga - he is angry but it is the anger of a mouse!)
And when the madam says that he need not pay for taking Kaveri home, all Panchapakesan can conjure up is 'thanks'
Is he even aware of the enormity of what she is saying!
Extraordinary writing/direction by Kamal.
And he is completely silent. Look at the way he looks up at the madam when she asks the girl to pay. What a complex emotion of overwhelming gratitude, shocked by the unexpected kindness he is showing.
There is one girl who (presumably) says: you give for me today, I will pay you tomorrow.
Why did Kamal insert that shot. More than cash in hand, what does that one line mean. The girl is saying I want to contribute to Kaveri's release today even if it means I have to pay for it by sleeping with someone tomorrow. Ghastly!!
The madam's daugher calling him 'appa' - the impact of that is tremendous.
You can see Panchapakesan in the next scene is relieved to have come out of the personal misery. He wants to retreat to his safe corner unmauled. He will probably want to forget anything happened at all. While Krishnaswamy says: 'ayyO...anga kAvEri maadhiri niRaiya puLLainga irukku Yamuna'.
And the line that shakes me up in this scene...
siri dee, un dheivam vandhirukku dee unnai koottittu pOga
It is Kamal's blackhumour to show faith in the depth of such misery. But it is such a brilliant depiction of the human condition. People will cling on to faith, particularly when that is the only thing they have to cling on to.
Kamal - you beauty!
மூவா? முதல்வா! இனியெம்மைச் சோரேலே
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14th May 2012, 01:27 AM
#766
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மூவா? முதல்வா! இனியெம்மைச் சோரேலே
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14th May 2012, 01:34 AM
#767
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Heart wrenching scene and at the same time mind boggling at the writing involved in this. Super stuff. Kamal you beauty!!!
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14th May 2012, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by
P_R
Not only the horror of finding his daughter in the brothel, but also the unspeakable horror of being suspected of abducting her and being beaten up for it.
The initial reaction from him tugs at my heart strings everytime. The way his daughter shies away from him because of the way she is dressed and how he embraces her without giving a damn about it... Enga amma solra dialogue than gyabagam varuthu. Enna aana enna? pethavangalukku pullainga eppavume thangaloda kulanthaigathan.
And he is completely silent. Look at the way he looks up at the madam when she asks the girl to pay. What a complex emotion of overwhelming gratitude, shocked by the unexpected kindness he is showing.
He even falls at her feet at one point. This kind of broad minded thinking is exactly why I think he is generations ahead of all his contemporaries.. While our mass heroes are still degrading women influenced by the social construct, Kamal stands out. He doesn't seemed conditioned by the society or its norms about how women should be treated, especially a sex worker at that. He neither looks at her as a woman nor a sex worker there, he looks at her like the goddess herself. (The scene after-in front of the temple speaks volumes) Partly a reason why I practically worship him. What kind of man he must be and what kind of heart he must possess to harbour such thoughts and perspectives?
While Krishnaswamy says: 'ayyO...anga kAvEri maadhiri niRaiya puLLainga irukku Yamuna'.
And the lamenting after that about why only good people suffer. Mahanadhi is a masterpiece.
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14th May 2012, 03:18 AM
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14th May 2012, 03:26 AM
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And now in addition to Krishna,Kaveri,bharaNi, Narmada,Saraswati,Yamuna,Panchabi.. I just realized the madam's (Ganga!) daughter's name is Jalaja
மூவா? முதல்வா! இனியெம்மைச் சோரேலே
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