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2nd June 2012, 11:52 AM
#3201
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whats with cricket teams fetish for yellow.. hideous most of the time.
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2nd June 2012 11:52 AM
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2nd June 2012, 01:41 PM
#3202
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Originally Posted by
wizzy
whats with cricket teams fetish for yellow.. hideous most of the time.
Athuvum Enga kondu vachirukkan paarunga....
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3rd June 2012, 03:33 PM
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India Avs WI A
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin...ch/562896.html
Rohit Sharma,Mukund,Pujara are there....
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3rd June 2012, 04:58 PM
#3204
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Originally Posted by
Siv.S
Athuvum Enga kondu vachirukkan paarunga....

semma comedy....
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3rd June 2012, 08:20 PM
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WI-A captain Veerasaamy Perumaul from the match yesterday..manavadu 
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3rd June 2012, 10:04 PM
#3206
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Originally Posted by
P_R
idhu sariyAna comparison illeengaLE. Availability is the problem. Regardless of the actions-words homily later in the article.
What does this mean? One rule or Strauss another for Pietersen. idhula obfuscate paNNa enna irukku? apdiyE othukka vENdiyadhu dhAnE? idhula koodavA thayakkam? Enga ellAmE varalarula varumnu carefulA badhil sonnA epdi?
Anyway I don't actually have a problem if there is one standard for Strauss and another for Pietersen. All I am saying is, it has more to do with his IPLness than Kolpakness
If edhukku? uLLanga nellikkani. One standard for natives and one for vandhERis. VandhERis should do their duty and not expect first citizen treatment. iidhu ungaLukku puriyalainA paravA illai - South African vaazh white makkaLukku purinjA sari.
And it has got nothing to do with IPL. KP isnt behaving like he should- grateful to the English masters for giving him a chance - apdi irukkaNum, ivan jealous, Nick Knight sari illainellAm publicA pEsaRan. adimayA latchaNamA vaaya moodikittirukkAma. There was a section of English press and board which made him captain then - Ted Corbett and co put the public nomination and somehow he became captain. But the traditional ECB elements brought him down at the first opportunity.
Andy Flowerai poRuththa varaikkin, KP antagonised him by demanding his removal along with Moores when he was captain. ippO samayam pArththu Andy pazhi vAngaRApla.
- as you and Plum are saying, illaiyA? Of course, idhu 'vanjikkappattai veLiyE irundha vandhavanE'-nu solRadhukku ungaLukku oru saans.
adhu dhAnE uNmai. othukka manasu varAdhE 
If you want to play IPL and thus want to opt out ODIs then sorry boss, you can't play T20s is what they are saying.
Nonsense. This is more to do with cutting KP down to size. As you said, if they had thought so rationally, they would have done this AFTER the T20 world cup. This is a case of their nAdhAri minds jumping ahead of their practical side, and ending up making them do things that they would do more carefully and rationally in another situation.
Really, if I were in the BCCI, I would use this opportunity to actively try to get KP to play for SA. namma seenu mAma's minions avLO creatively think paNdradhA theriyalai. hmm....
And mind ECB has more to lose, trying to defend the T20 title without KP. Yet they are going ahead - and the way I see it - to warn those who may be salivating at playing IPL at the expense of matches for England.
Not at all true. IPL's got nothing to do with it. Where does IPL come in? KP came back to England froM IPL when they needed him. There is no conflict in KP's case between IPL and Country, I mean, international team. England is not his country, is it? Last year also, they took in Morgan right back from IPL into test squad. The fact that they are going ahead despiute the T20 world cup shows how personal vengeance for KP is blidning their eyes. IPL may be culpable only to the extent that KP called England as jealous of IPL.
I have the same sentiments about all. Malinga mEla kooda enakku sandhEgam dhaan.
- How despicable! Pehaps, malinga really feels the pain? Perhaps, the chance to make a living with 4 overs per day of matchplay is a Godsend for him? This is ridiculous speculation and gossip against a honest man making his living.
Regarding Malinga missing out on tests and playing IPL I will have to remark as Flower did when KP returned during the world cup, 'when someone is pain, you don't
now what they are going through. You have to take their word for it'.

idhu naala dhaan ivanai enakku pudikkudhu
Typical Anglo Saxon nAdhAri statement. No wonder you liked it I guess
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4th June 2012, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by
Plum
What does this mean? One rule or Strauss another for Pietersen. idhula obfuscate paNNa enna irukku? apdiyE othukka vENdiyadhu dhAnE? idhula koodavA thayakkam? Enga ellAmE varalarula varumnu carefulA badhil sonnA epdi?
The difference is highlighted in the article itself. Of course the article says, in reality there is no difference because Strauss has not played domestic T20s and is thus in effect saying he is not available for T20s without actually making such a statement. So it is not as if he is not being picked but is actually not available. And so there is no difference between his case and KP's. I see the point. But, since this is something contractual I think 'not actually expressing unavailability' is not something I ignore away easily.

Originally Posted by
Plum
VandhERis should do their duty and not expect first citizen treatment.
Unselected. You are quick to say such things.

Originally Posted by
Plum
iidhu ungaLukku puriyalainA paravA illai - South African vaazh white makkaLukku purinjA sari.
purinjA Englandkku varaama irundhuruvAingaLA? 

Originally Posted by
Plum
As you said, if they had thought so rationally, they would have done this AFTER the T20 world cup.
Btw same applies for KP. If he really wanted to 'defend the T20 world cup' he would have opted out after it. oru 4 maasam veLayAndA enna aayirum?
He wants to pick and choose and ECB said no. ungaLukku ECB pudikkAdhu'nRadhaala, KP-ai kambleetA exonerate paNReengaLE.

Originally Posted by
Plum
Not at all true. IPL's got nothing to do with it.
Disagree. It is a career he wants to prolong at the expense of playing for England. If he wants to spend time with family, why not sit out of IPL and do it? No I want to make money by playing T20 in IPL and then opt out of Eng matches - in formats I am able enough to play as demonstrated by my performance in IPL, is his stance. England doesn't allow him to pick and choose as it can encourage many others youngsters to do the same. indha aLavaavadhu oththukkunga.

Originally Posted by
Plum
IPL may be culpable only to the extent that KP called England as jealous of IPL.
Oh he did, is it? It is quite true, but saying such things against the establishment is very good behaviour, is it?
Objectionable if anyone would say it. Kolpakness has little to do with it - much as you would like to characterize that the reason ECB took offence is ONLY because of his Kolpakness.

Originally Posted by
Plum
Pehaps, malinga really feels the pain?
Perhaps he does. And I am being nasty.

Originally Posted by
Plum
Perhaps, the chance to make a living with 4 overs per day of matchplay is a Godsend for him?
adhai paththi ellAm naan edhukkunga kavalai padaNum. Then I will need to care about the well being of KP's financial entity.

Originally Posted by
Plum
Typical Anglo Saxon nAdhAri statement. No wonder you liked it I guess
appuRam eppadi dhaan thitradhu? There is no doubting KP's integrity, we respect his opinions. He always puts Eng ahead of himself and I have no doubt in my mind he would've borne the pain, if it were possible. The very fact that he revised his opinion is a testament to the intensity of his pain. We will all miss him but we empathize with him in our World Cup campaign but we hope he recovers soon and joins us - appadinnu Andy Flower solli irukkaNumA?
Actually even that is a nice technique- smother him with accolades like that. What is the procedure to be hired as aRikkai-writer. Part-timeA kooda seyvEn.
Imagine starting thus: KP says he is in pain; And KP is an honourable man 
Here is an article by someone quite critical of ECB (considers it worse than BCCI!), who likes KP, acknowledges Flower paaltics etc. and yet feels KP was trying to have the best of all: http://www.thesightscreen.com/post-m...shade-of-grey/
Padichuttu, kOvappadaama, karuththu sollunga.
As I told him on twitter, I found this good reading because my opinion is neither informed or balanced, when it comes to T20s. Palestine will recognize Israel before I recognize T20 as a format. So anything that to undercut T20, its major vehicle IPL, and frustrate players who choose it over playing for their nation - is something I will be hesitant to criticize.
Last edited by P_R; 4th June 2012 at 05:58 AM.
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4th June 2012, 06:11 AM
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And there is just no doubt whatsoever that England is doing this to 'prove a point'. There is no denying a personal angle to it - cutting KP down to size. But that's surely not all. It is by sending message to all kids out there - Kolpak or otherwise. And England wants to make this point so badly that they are even willing to significantly reduce their chances in ODIs and T20s.Note KP got centuries in his last two ODI matches. IMO it is quite daring of Flower to drop KP now, when he has so much to offer.Anyway, even if KP was dropped after he became a spent force - you guys will say: SAffers-ai sakkaiyA pizhinju thookki veesittAnunga indha bleddy Brits. oNNum prayOjanam illai Krishna.
Your equating 'cutting KP down to size' to 'cutting Saffers down to size' is what I don't buy.
maNi indha maadhiri IPL superstar aagi (ada summA oru pEchchukku), ODI ellAM viLayAda mudiyAdhu-nnu sonnA, ECB avanai accommodate paNNi iruppAn 'ngreengaLA? I don't think so.
This is why I think Strauss is not the appropriate example. ayyO enakku T20 varaadhunga'nRaan avan. So they are making an exception for him. Unreasonable, on the face of it. But I see the difference. Don't you?
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4th June 2012, 06:27 AM
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btw I saw a docu about the '81 Ashes and Kim Hughes azhugaachchi press-conference on the flight home last week.
Brearley paththi unga karuththu? As a Eng-hater and as a manager.
Wine tasting, book-review paNNittu irundha Oxbridge styleman-ai, beer and adavaadi, brash Bothathai katti mEykkuradhukkAga koNdu vandhAinga. And it worked!
Could imagine him comment about the committee/crowds/press/Aus, a la, Gounder in Brahma: remba anaagareegamA nadandhukkuraanga, illai?
That and Bob Willis' spell hanging by his teeth to even get a chance to play in Leeds and then destroying Aus. Brearley merely changing ends and making him click.
Tayam kidaikkumbOdhu sollunga. mukkiyamA, how much of it, you think is post-facto.
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4th June 2012, 10:58 AM
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This article makes sense. That the boards are stuck in the past and are arrogant. http://www.legsidefilth.com/?p=693
The notion that anyone who plays for a national team should constitute a pliant, forelock-tugging workforce grateful simply to represent their country is outmoded and needs to change, ....... It’s time cricket boards accepted the reality of today’s economic climate and faced the fact that sportsmen will occasionally make decisions based on something other than what is best for Team England.
I totally see his point of view, but I would rather identify with the head-in-the-sand, stuck-in-the-past oldies who will do all they can to scuttle such 'developments'.
udanE, 'do you think ECB is a defender of the game'-nu kEkkappadaadhu. They may have their reasons. Here it works for me. That's all.
Last edited by P_R; 4th June 2012 at 11:07 AM.
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