Maestro ilaiyaraaja news & titbits

[Punnaimaran]

Raja says that its only music which is great than writing, on a function where his books are released! Isn't this adakkam which actually exceeds the kollywood-humility standards set by hubbers?!?

Exactly. I was about to point this out yesterday before I had to leave for some work and to kiru and senthilv.

தான் சொல்ல வரும் கருத்தை புரிந்து கொள்ளாமல், தலைகீழ் வாசித்தாலும் பொருள் உண்டு என்று சில "விகடகவி"கள் கொடிபிடித்துக் கொண்டு வருவார்கள் என்று அறிந்து தான் அந்த ஸ்வரங்களைப் பாடிக் காண்பித்தார்.

[Sureshs65]

Aravindaa,

freeya vidu yaa. Anyway we have posted our thoughts on his comments sections. So the debate continues there

motte_dasan,

To remain or leave the forum is of course your prerogative but from my experience I can tell, this is probably the most open forum for bashing Raja and also his fans. You will not be bad mouthed but you will get a response. Asking people not to bad mouth in one thing and asking people not to respond is another !! So many have clearly expressed their dislike for some of the Raja songs and albums and there is no issue at all. People will disagree with you but in a forum we must expect that right. Most other forums are 'bhajana mandalis' of Raja or a forum to bad mouth Raja extensively.

Another thing I don't understand. No one every says, 'Oh that guy wrote one article and so many people are praising it !!!' There have been many articles of BR which many people have praised. Afterall he is a well known critic. If one article is praised sky high and no one complains, why should we complain about in another article he getting torn apart. Maybe we should keep a quota for number of people praising or criticizing an article maybe?

[rajaramsgi]

App_engine,

Anyway, thanks for reminding me why i stopped participating in this forum 10 yrs back. have a great life!

motte_தாசன் சார்,

இங்க வரதும் வராதாதும் உங்கள் சொந்த விஷயம். ஆனால் வருவதற்கு இசை காரனம் என்றால் போவதற்கும் அதுவே காரணமாக இருக்க வேண்டும். நானும் பதினான்கு ஆண்டுகளுக்கு மேலாக தினம்தோறும் பலமுறை இங்கு வந்து போய் கொண்டிருக்கிறேன். அதிகம் எழுதியது இல்லை, ஆனால் இங்கு எழுதிய எல்லோரையும் நிறைய படித்திருக்கிறேன், ரசித்திருக்கிறேன். இசையை மைய படுத்தி, அதுவும் ராஜாவை பற்றி நவரசத்தையும் அள்ளி தெளித்து வரும் இவர்கள் மீது கோபம் வேண்டாம், நீங்களும் எழுதுங்கள், அவர்கள் கருத்து தவறாக இருக்கிறது என்றால், பதிலடி குடுங்கள். உங்கள் எண்ணங்களை பதிவு செய்வதற்கே இந்த இடம்.குளத்தின் மேல் கோபித்து கொண்டு, கழுவாமல் போக வேண்டாமே.


-இனிமேல் தங்களை அடிக்கடி இங்கு எதிர்பார்க்கும் பலரில் நானும் ஒருவன்.

[Nerd]

Ada avaru dhaan oru effect-kaaga, 1-1 mapping kidaiyaadhunnu sollittaarE for the MSV comparision. Pls bring down shoulders And on IR having a niche audience, I don't deny (I talk only w.r.to TFM and not counting *loyal* old-timers.). But, I think it was SKV brought up a good point in one of the threads - that things are changing thanks to those Madurai films (hate this term) / reality shows / lack of *capable* MDs and also due to IR's choice of films. Post Naan KadavuL he has really become a force, one more time. And currently he is #1 in the market

Actually at least this discussion is far more interesting than analyzing IR as a person. That was sabbaa for the most part and I really wish the offenders stop it or IR stops making public appearances

[Gregorysab]

Among a medley of songs chosen for London Olympics Opening Ceremony, Ilaiyaraaja's "naanthaan ungappandaa" (Ram Lakshamanan - 1981) will feature: http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper...cle3549270.ece

And interestingly, Danny Boyle is the architect behind the opening ceremony.

[raja_fan]

Who knows what has gone in Danny Boyle's mind !
But as usual, London proves to be lucky for IR.

[Gregorysab]

But as usual, London proves to be lucky for IR.

Lucky aa? ya, trying selling this quote to Raaja himself, and convince him to release that damn Symphony recorded in London then

[layman10]

This is just a leak from tabloid magazine Sun. No one knows if it part of playlist that will be used in the arena or is it really short listed for the Ceremony. Now already our special correspondent from Hindu has confirmed it with a close associate?!.

[rajaramsgi]

தேவா 450 படங்களுக்கு இசை அமைத்தது எப்படி என்று அவருடைய சகோதரர்கள் இங்கே சொல்கிறார்கள். அதில் சபேஷ் 1984-1990 வரை ராஜா சாருடன் அக்னி நட்சத்திரம், சத்யா போன்ற படங்களில் வேலை செய்து இருக்கிறார். சங்கர் கணேஷ் கூட ஆயிரத்து நூறுக்கும் மேற்பட்ட படங்களுக்கு எப்படி வேலையை பகிர்ந்து கொண்டு செய்தார்கள் என்று ஜெயா டிவியில் திரும்பி பார்கிறேன் நிகழ்ச்சியில் சொன்னார். ஆனால் அத்தனை படங்களில் வேலை செய்தாலும், விரல் விட்டு என்ன கூடிய அளவில் தான் அவர்களால் ஹிட் பாடல்களை குடுக்க முடிந்தது. இன்னமும் தொழில் செய்து கொண்டிருந்தாலும், யாரோ போட்ட ரோட்டில் தான் வண்டியை ஒட்டி கொண்டிருக்கிறார்கள். கற்று கொண்ட அனுபவத்தில் தங்களுக்கென்று ஒரு பாதையை அவர்களால் அமைத்து கொள்ள முடியவில்லை.


ஆனால் ராஜா சார் .... fill up the blanks

[app_engine]

App_engine,

that was me and I am certainly not apologizing for anyone. what appealed to me about this rangan guy is that he said "The other thing, we live in a country where if you don’t don’t praise someone to the skies it’s assumed that you’re damning him. If you don’t sing bhajans exalting a person, then you’re a rabid hater. I find that attitude baffling."

motte_dhaasan,

First of all, the whole thing got started by the provocative beginning portion of the blog (that was carefully edited out in the hindu version).

None of us started it. BRangan started it by maligning the current IRFs as some weird group

His blog post & comments (either by himself or those "allowed" by him) had these sharp observations about IRFs :

-bhajan maNdali / cult (that too a dwindling one, per his opening remarks, prior to the interview)
-extremists who issue fatwa on any writer who won't sing bhajan (his comment you quoted above)
-dimwits who can't understand simile / metaphor (reply to V_Sji with poNNu-pushpam explanation)
-cannot be redeemed (vijayr's ivanunga comment)

OTOH, in return, there was no "tearing apart" and all - please don't exaggerate!

Check all the comments by Akarsh / V_Sji / Sureshji in his blog.

Even here in the hub, the reactions were mixed. Very democratic expressions - both supporting & opposing, I must say!

Coming to my comments in this thread yesterday (that got triggered by your comment in BRangan's blog), even before anyone replied I self-moderated and removed them -shortly after posting -as I felt those were a bit strong!

That is the paNpAdu I have (but after seeing your "hubbukku vandhirukkavE koodAthu" response for a decently-deleted comment, I now feel those should have been retained - at least to avoid confusion to onlookers).

Yesterday I thought you were apolegetic on behalf of IRF's and asking BRangan to continue to write about IR as "these people know not what they're doing".

Now I understand that you were effectively telling him, "ivunga eppavum ippidiththAn kaththuvAnga, kaNdukkAma neenga ungaLukku enna thONuthO adhai ezhudhunga".

nanRi for clarification - neenga engaLai oru poruttA madhichchu, menakkettu inga vandhu theLivu paduththinadhukku romba kadamaippattirukkiROm

salAm sir!