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30th October 2005, 09:18 PM
#1201
Senior Member
Seasoned Hubber

Originally Posted by
Vysar
Tamil Maiyam has copyright and selling the CDs in India and USA thru TIS-USA.
London and Canada - No one is officially selling them. They have CDs in the market from India (Welgate), USA (TIS-USA) and pirated CDs
40 Lakhs for UK is bullshit to begin with. I dont know if these people know really whats the selling capacity of any Tamil CD. None of the tamil CD get that much money. If it does, then there will be better songs. To my knowledge TamilCinema argument is baseless.
In my opinion, the biggest mistake IR did was to give away the 70 lakh worth jewel to temple. I hate it even if they pour 1 lr of Milk. Specially in areas like Thiruppur, even if they pour 1 lr of Water its an offence. This is just me and my opinion, but cant expect everyone to be like this. If at all IR could have done something, he could have given atleast 35 lakhs to tamil-maiyam to relieve the debts.
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30th October 2005 09:18 PM
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30th October 2005, 09:49 PM
#1202
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Devoted Hubber
""Tamil Maiyam has copyright and selling the CDs in India and USA thru TIS-USA.""-- quote by Mr.'njv'
The above statement is not true.
Wellgate holds the right in conjunction with IIR&TM in India and TiSUSA were given just 8000 CD's at a discounted price--not free- to sell initially.
IIR thru another source has seccured the copyright in USA!
YIA!!
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30th October 2005, 10:08 PM
#1203
Senior Member
Veteran Hubber
TISK,
oops I just thought you were in trouble and eventually you are going to come out of it. But the above Post suggests IR left you to sink....
How about the accounts. are you ready to provide it atleast now? You were reluctant before.
How may CD's are you left with of the 8000.
Is there any possibility of Suing IR and Wellgate.
If anything you could suggest as a help from Indians in India/Chennai here I would gladly do it.
Vijayr, Arjuna, Jacky et all Think best how you could help them to come out this crisis. If not for IR atleast for their efforts and TM in bringing out such an album.
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30th October 2005, 10:40 PM
#1204
Senior Member
Seasoned Hubber
This is indeed bad .I hope atleast that IIR is aware that tamizh maiyam and TIS-USA had more than XX lakhs of loan...
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30th October 2005, 11:11 PM
#1205
Senior Member
Seasoned Hubber

Originally Posted by
TISK
""Tamil Maiyam has copyright and selling the CDs in India and USA thru TIS-USA.""-- quote by Mr.'njv'
The above statement is not true.
Wellgate holds the right in conjunction with IIR&TM in India and TiSUSA were given just 8000 CD's at a discounted price--not free- to sell initially.
IIR thru another source has seccured the copyright in USA!
YIA!!
TISK
Two people are fooled here.
1. TIS-donators in USA, including TIS-USA
2. The "other" source who has copyright, because they cant sell even a shit of TIS anymore. I dont know how many CDs you sold, but I can bet that it will be difficult to sell anything in USA anymore. Pirated TIS is everywhere, thanks to the choosing unknown companies like Welgate.
Honestly if TIS=USA sold atleast 50% of the CDs, then I am very happy and proud because no tamil CD sell more than 500 pieces in USA.
If IR didnt had the issue with Saregama, I would have approached them for marketting TIS in USA atleast,but I am affraid that I cant.
With news coming out like this, I am sure IR is going to loose his fans soon. May be he doesnt care any more because he think he has "accomplished" everything in life, but the truth is he can still do more and create a lasting impression. Hope someone take these message to him.
I hope this TIS-issue doesnt bring aversion to IR in me.
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30th October 2005, 11:41 PM
#1206
If all this is true, shame on Mottai!
He could have productively entered politics and made money instead of churning out mediocre albums for last few years!
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31st October 2005, 12:15 AM
#1207
Senior Member
Veteran Hubber
I am terribly shocked to read all the above posts!:
How much effort this team (especially TISK) has done here to promote this album. Everything futile now!.
athukku thaan solradhu rasigana irukkanum, veriyana irukka koodathunnu.
RS, Very kind of you!.
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31st October 2005, 12:52 AM
#1208
Senior Member
Devoted Hubber
Hindu, AV and Kumudam all host banner ads, if any of you could strike a deal with them to advertise for TIS-USA on a partial or deferred payment – it can be of little help. At least it's a better option than requesting ppl to buy on forums as most of them would have got one by now.
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31st October 2005, 01:27 AM
#1209
Senior Member
Devoted Hubber
Quote by Mr.'Scale'......." athukku thaan solradhu rasigana irukkanum, veriyana irukka koodathunnu......" end quote
I have never been a 'veRiyan' of IIR at any point.
I got into TiS mainly for Fr.Jegath's appeal, sincerity and for the love of Tamil and the motive behind this great project as spelt by Fr. Jegath to me.
In fact, I met and spoke with IIR only by Feb.2004.
I have a great respect for his musical genius and the way he has played a part in my life with his music in the 80's and 90's.
I truly believed that he is the man to do this well and I am proud to say that he hasn't dissappointed me on that score.
Regular readers of this forum and this thread know very well that I actually folded the shop by Nov'04 when the final mixing was over at Sony and in fact thanked everybody as a closing call as I genuinely believed that the marketing aspect has already been taken care of by TM and IIR.
When it was getting delayed for inexplicable reasons and beyond Fr's control over contract wranglings, there developed a situation that US fans who have played a MAJOR role in the making of TIS were to be denied the opportunity of getting their hands on the CD on the release date, we had no option but to get a minimum number of CD's to make them available here and also to make good of our loan committments.
This was made possible by Fr's heavy insistance and effort and that too at a cost and not for free.
I[for TiS-USA] had to pay upfront a fee to get the CD's to be available for the fans by May 30th.
So, I ended up getting involved in the distribution aspects also much against my wishes.
So, don't call me a 'v*****n' , .
And.. I have already explained all these earlier in my June or May postings.
Let's see how this drama unfolds!
YIA!!
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31st October 2005, 01:37 AM
#1210
Senior Member
Seasoned Hubber

Originally Posted by
TISK
I[for TiS-USA] had to pay upfront a fee to get the CD's to be available for the fans by May 30th.[/b]
I cant express my thanks and thanks of thousands of people who got the CD, but at the same time this is THE biggest mistake you have done, specially after knowing the fact that the "deal" isnt in favor or tamil maiyam. If you would have mentioned this to me before, I would have tried my level best to stoped you, because I know the CD market here very well.
I sent a PM. When u get chance, please respond.
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