Khan Saheb Kamal Haasan's Jamaat/Jeba Koottam/Devasthaanam - Part 8

[sathya_1979]

sangamE abaraadhathula Odudhunnu theriyum, edhaachum maaRi irukkaanu paarthEn, same blood

[P_R]

Through a quick reading, I understand that I am still waiting for the tea: My question "Also, pilees to the enlighten what all pitfalls of Islam were "condemned" in Hey Ram?" to ur Hey RamlayE theLivaa sollirukkaarE statement.

Hey Ram-layE avarudaiya nilaipAttai therivichaachu.

thOL-la thuNdu pOttu 'ippo islaathai thittinA dhAn aachu'nu kEkkareengaLEnnu sonnEn.

adhula Islaathai thittirukkAru-nnu ellAm sollalalai.


maRumuRai varuvadhaaai cholli
mAindhavar vandhadhE illai
thodarvadhu naamE naaLai
varuvadhu vERoRu aaLE


idhellAm messiah-based Abrahamic religions paththina criticism illaindreengaLA.
MunnAdi inippA pEsi pinnAdi muttai adichcha Altaf

Anyway, no point. Force paththalai. Guru Sishyan Prabhu mAdhiri: "Emendes, ennai eppadi ellAm adichiyO, adhu mAdhiri avanai adi" -nu solla pOReenga.

and none addressed / explained that he do have enough knowledge or have the guts to speak out against others.

appo idhu enna panjumuttAyA? :

So, if you are accusing him of being equally bound by the constraints then oh sure.

I want a stinging critique on Islam. appo nee veeran-nu oththukkuREn. adhu varaikkin I will summarily ignore your critiques against Hinduism-nu sonneengannA :sake hands:


btw, his 'good' critiques are embedded in the stories:

nee kumbudura ramasamy-E... appadinnu Hey Ram-la dhaan solla mudiyum
appuram yEn Gandhiyaiyum, [B]Ramanaiyum /B] kaatti indha maadhiri iru-nu sollaNum - appadinnu Mahanadhi-la dhaan kEkka mudiyum

[P_R]

sangamE abaraadhathula Odudhunnu theriyum, edhaachum maaRi irukkaanu paarthEn, same blood

System working espetted -nRa mAdhiri dhaanE podhuvA pOduveenga
andha template theerndhuruchA.

[sathya_1979]

Thanks for re-inforcing my view points and thanks for your time. "adhu varaikkin I will summarily ignore your critiques against Hinduism-nu sonneengannA :sake hands: " - atleast enakku idhu out of scope as I never bought into his hollow / biased arguments based on prejudice.

avarOda fans ellaam avar "ellaa" thappaiyum thatti kEkkaravar (Dnt ask for quotes / posts, general POV here and elsewhere), rational, balanced ellaam solreeyaLE, uNmaiyaanu paarththen. Proven incorrect.

But, thanks for all your responses and others like Bala, Grouch etc (This conversation and others as well). It helped me approach arguments objectively without getting overly emotional. nanRi hai

Hinduism, Islam or any other religion for that matter kiNdal senjaalum, condemn senjaalum, support senjaalum I am no way bothered. aanaa, thirumba thirumba oru neutral maadhiri false propaganda nadakkudhE, oru vELai uNmaiyOnu nenachEn, illenu theLivaa sutti kaattitteenga.

[sathya_1979]

Finally 1 Hey Ram <> Countless bile spouting in other movies, interviews, public speeches....

[P_R]

In my humble opinion, the word neutral should be banned.

[irir123]

in the overall analysis, Hey Ram was the closest Kamal came to engaging us (at least me!) in a profoundly intellectual way - there have been a few flash points of brilliance in other films which are more artistic/aesthetic in nature - but strictly from the point of view of making films with themes that have strong socio-political themes, his presentations have been UNneutral (neutral thaane banned ?!)

[P_R]

"adhu varaikkin I will summarily ignore your critiques against Hinduism-nu sonneengannA :sake hands: " - atleast enakku idhu out of scope as I never bought into his hollow / biased arguments based on prejudice.

Finally 1 Hey Ram <> Countless bile spouting in other movies, interviews, public speeches....

Bile paththAdhu. innum niRaiya thitta vENdi irukku.
But konjam subtle-A, azhagA paNNaNum. That's all I want.

[venkkiram]

Can we start listing Hamal's hindu bashing from so far movies? Not to prove anything. Just for record. Let us see how each one of us view those dialogues. In kamal's own words "thedith theerpom vaa! "

[Anban]

Can we start listing Hamal's hindu bashing from so far movies? Not to prove anything. Just for record. Let us see how each one of us view those dialogues. In kamal's own words "thedith theerpom vaa! "

Yes let's start ... ready 1, 2, 3 ...