Khan Saheb Kamal Haasan's Jamaat/Jeba Koottam/Devasthaanam - Part 8

[Cinemarasigan]

people might not have understood what he said.

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[Raajjaa]

neenga hub-la post pannaa kooda appadiththaanunga.

MGR padaththai paaththaa circus koranga paaththu whistle adikkiRadhu dhaan nyaabagam varum.

நல்ல வேளை ரஜினி திறமையான நடிகர் என்று கூறி என் கூட சண்டை போடுவீர்கள் என்று நான் நினைத்தேன். ஒத்துக் கொண்டதற்கு நன்றி.

[Movie Cop]

Mohan Lal?

Let's leave alone dance & stunts. Has Lal got that much wider repertoire as Kamal in terms of sheer acting? Like Kamal can pull off a chappani as easily as he can a velu naicker or a Guna... Even in lighter roles, he can pull off a chaplin chellapa-isque "gimmicks" comedy as much as Shanmughi Mami's... He even made laugh by acting in silent mode in "pesum padam"...

I've not seen much Malayalam cinema... Hubbers with good knowledge on Malayalam cinema can talk to that since I know nothing about Lal... Just asking out of curiosity?

[Raajjaa]

Yeah, I ll make it go to digs thread ASAP.

-Sam Anderson's inspiration - Dr. Namadhu MGR
-MGR's performance in crying scenes is unparalleled in any universe. In fact I wonder how is it even possible to twitch your facial muscles like that. Surely he was an athisayappiRavi. I get reminded of George Carlin's fat people - Cirque De Soleil comment.
-MGR's performance in songs, wah reh waa andha kaalaththula vijay awards irunthaa award for bestest hands avarukku dhaan every damn year.

ஊர்காவலன் படத்தில் தனது ஒற்றைக் காலில் கயிற்றைக் கட்டி ஜீப்பை போக விடாமல் தடுத்து.... அப்பொழுது நடிப்பாரே....

ரஜினியின் அந்த நடிப்பைப் பார்த்து எவ்வலவு திறமையான நடிகர் என நினைத்து நான் தியேட்டரில் கண்ணீர் விட்டு அழுதேன்.

இது போல் நிறைய படங்கள் இருக்கிறது.ஒவ்வொன்றாக கூறுகிறேன்.

[Raajjaa]

எம்.ஜி.ஆருக்கு வக்காலத்து வாங்கினத்துக்கு எனக்கு வேணும் ..எனக்கு வேணும்

உம்மால என்ன நடந்துச்சு ? சும்மா இருந்த 4 பேரை சொறிஞ்சு விட்டு எம்.ஜி.ஆரை பத்தி அவங்க பேசும்படி வச்சாச்சு ..என்ன எம்.ஜி.ஆர் ரசிகரோ ?ஹைய்யோ

எனக்கு சிரிப்பு தாங்க முடியவில்லை. மாற்றி சொல்லுகிறீர்கள்.

[ajithfederer]

Possible but resume on the acting side has many achievements.

3. Kamal the writer/director - greater talent than Kamal the actor.

+ Zillion. Either he took it easy or nothing good came by his way.

5. Rajini after Thalabadhi is thoroughly wasted

[groucho070]

1. Kamal 80s ordinary movies - QED as far as I am concerned. Not just Sattam. See Vvazhve maayam at the end of title song. Siridevi kovichukinu poga sollO maadipadi OramA vandhu oru "mixed emotion" look vuduvaaru. ArtificalO artificial. Kamal in 80s ordinary movies - don't start me on it.anban will kill me.
2. Rajini is the only actor among all mass heroes and mass hero wannabes in Tamil film continuum. I don't like 6 to 60 but look at how he handled ordinary moments there. Grouch can write more. As NT would have done it. Call him a NT clone yeah if you want. Nothing to be ashamed about that.
3. Kamal the writer/director - greater talent than Kamal the actor. But yeah the star Kamal was required to make sure the director Kamal had a market. To that extent, I see the 80s as investment.
4. He is a bloody good actor. Trumps most other competitors on that aspect despite acting being his second string in the bow.
4. I rejeet stunt and dance talent so yeah, P-R's passionate arguments for 80s Kamal along those lines is rejetted.
5. Rajini after Thalabadhi is thoroughly wasted
5. It is long term memory loss to evaluate Rajini based on past 20 years. Just think Jeeva@30 years vs Rajini*30 years. No contest, even if you ignore Rajini's output post his 30 years of age. Heck, idhellaam naan En explicitA sollikittrukkEn?
7. Frabhu deva dance - sori sirangu soridhal, pant zip kazhatti moodal, sattai thiRandhu moodal, discrete movements - bhava bayaharam. Thank God I don't have much respect for dance as an art. If he is the standard against which Kamal is poor dancer, lacks grace etc, you guys should take it easy. You don't want to call Kamal good according to those standards.
Idhaiyellaam, pala muRai solliyAchu. IpdiyE recycle paNNikittirunga...

1. The so-called ordinary movies had its charm, some humour that is clearly improvised by Kamal. Artificial to you, very effective to us (back then, for newer hubbers, I was a hardcore fan of Kamal before retiring and becoming hardcore Sivaji fan).

2. Spot on, 6 to 60 is a remba sAthArana movie in the mould of old Pa varisai/KSG films, poorly produced and directed. But Rajini shines. Not NT clone, but good student of NT School of Acting.
3. Soru pOttu valarthathu Kamal the actor. All his scripts can cater only Kamal the actor, note the word "cater". Kamal the actor < Kamal the writer <Kamal the director.
4. But of course.
4. Your taste.
5. Sad but true, though there were moments here and there (I liked Baba the best after Thalapathi, so sue me).
5. Absofrickinlutely.
7. While I loved it back then, he was the main reason for "_ukku dance varumA?" argument that keeps cropping up. Sad.

Athu sari, what's the reason behind the numbering repetition?

[pushpak]

Action and dance????

Action - looks are deceiving.. he appears fat (he is fat).. but very flexible.. and does a lot of stunts without dupe..
Dance - not a trained dancer.. "modern" dancing even I don;t think he is good (infact looks funny)... but classical dance - he did great in Kamaladalam

Rest two categories - comparable to Kamal

[kid-glove]

He learnt Kathakali and was fantastic in Vanaprastham.

Did both the feminine and masculine enactions really well.

[kid-glove]

Mohan Lal : Kamal :: Nicholson : De Niro

Like them both.

NT has two 'lineages' in Mammooka, and Rajini. But Lal and Kamal are inspired by NT too.

Bachchan lam get out please.