Khan Saheb Kamal Haasan's Jamaat/Jeba Koottam/Devasthaanam - Part 8

[Cinemarasigan]

This T- Shirt is nice. Sakala, Is there any link where we can order this?

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

CR, no idea dude! koogiL pannippaarunga!

irir, ur analogy, Maaya vs Sakthi is agreeable but religion/spirituality/aathigam nu pOneengannaa, agreed that Maayan does all kind of soozhchi but that force/sakthi doeas Sakthivel uses against? He is just trying to be honest and not only that, he keeps on expressing "Why this kolaveri yaa?!? C'mon you are my Annan" attitude which is actually friendly! Moreover, while Maayan does destructive soozhchi, Sakthi too does some soozhchi/planning to safegaurd his ppl. The very idea of secretly meeting Sellayaa, Father of Panjavarnam and convincing him to politically change his camp, along with agreeing for Panchavarnam to marry someone in kamal's camp, all this somewhat secretive till marriage.

Eppadi paarthaalum, Mythology link kudukka mudiyathu. May be Natural Forces nnu sollalaam. Like P_R found out the subtext of PanjaboothangaL in this film!

[sharav]

A song Raja composed for Marudhanayagam! Audio quality is sumaar

Nalla than irukki..... Konjam "Poovar Senni Mannan" from Thiruvaasakam thaakam irundha maathiri theriyuthu. (A little bit from "Un Kuthama, Yen Kuthama" as well)

[irir123]

CR, no idea dude! koogiL pannippaarunga!

irir, ur analogy, Maaya vs Sakthi is agreeable but religion/spirituality/aathigam nu pOneengannaa, agreed that Maayan does all kind of soozhchi but that force/sakthi doeas Sakthivel uses against? He is just trying to be honest and not only that, he keeps on expressing "Why this kolaveri yaa?!? C'mon you are my Annan" attitude which is actually friendly! Moreover, while Maayan does destructive soozhchi, Sakthi too does some soozhchi/planning to safegaurd his ppl. The very idea of secretly meeting Sellayaa, Father of Panjavarnam and convincing him to politically change his camp, along with agreeing for Panchavarnam to marry someone in kamal's camp, all this somewhat secretive till marriage.

Eppadi paarthaalum, Mythology link kudukka mudiyathu. May be Natural Forces nnu sollalaam. Like P_R found out the subtext of PanjaboothangaL in this film!

mythology link not fossiple, agreed! it happens only if IR sings 'annanin uravai azhitthida thunindhaan, SAGUNIyai pol oru sadhi seidhaan' in MMKR's title song 'kadha kelu' - even that is a reference to a legendary story that ppl cud easily identify with! even references to Abhiramy/ bhakthi in Guna is something ppl could easily identify with a la 'yeppadi oru bhakthanukku abhiramiyin mel oru patru irukkumo, adhu madhiri, manidhargal purindhu kolla mudiyaadha punidhamaana yang lavers lovessu' (in Gounds style) - only coz IR is part of the team, all these references get an added extra spiritual dimension, perhaps!!

kamal aanmeegathhaiye vera madhiri paakkuraar - eppadi paarthaalum, nammala madhiri aatkala indha madhiri alasa vakkaraar!

[Plum]

I feel guilty for indirectly contributing to the bashing of these guys. mundhA nALE pEsAma irundhirukkaNum

At least iniyAvadhu thavirppadhu udambukku nalladhu (ennaichchonnEn)

App - idhu enna? ennamO inga fanslAm sErndhu ungaLaiyO Sb-aiyO bash paNNinA mAdhiriyE pEsuRInga?

nAn enna sonNEn? oru roobaikku rendu pazham...sorry wront number, nAn enna sonnEn?

App - nidhAnam. I understand your paasam for SB. But how does panner pushpangaL justify giving credit to SB for Gunaa? adhu endha ball park, idhu endha ball park? Creative Vision apdinnu PArthA what is SB's level? adhai edhai vechu edai pODaRadhu? Non Kamal movies of SB right? What does that tell us? Barring KKK, again with Kamal as producer and not inconceivable creative contribution to the project, what can you claim for the artistic vision of SB?
I remember - Chinna Mappillail, En Thamiz En MakkaL(NT rasigan nAnE solREnga, kOdi roobai koduthAlum pArthu tholaichudAdhInga), Chinna Vadhyar(idhu SingethamO?). sari Paneer Pushpangal - but what aesthetic in Paneer P makes you think SB's creative vision can give us Gunaa?

Singetham on the other hand I ahve a lot of respect for his creative vision. But still, his best works are with Kamal. Apple soos directornu solla mudiyAdhu.

paasam vERU, kadamai vERu - ungaLukku theriyAdhadhillai

idhula naduvula irundha meat-ai eduthuttu ipdi quote paNdrInga:

App - nidhAnam. I understand your paasam for SB.
paasam vERU, kadamai vERu - ungaLukku theriyAdhadhillai

naduvula evLO matter solli irukkEn? evLo pakkuvamA solli irukKEn? apdiyE loosela vittuttu ennamO nAn bash paNNinA mAdhiri quote paNNi :bye: sonnA enna arththam?

ingE ellOrumE vinayamA dhAnE sonNAnga? Why react like fans koodi bash paNNA mAdhiri?

I dont underswtand your reaction at all!

[Plum]

maRubadiyum kEkkaREn. Your logic seems to be "Santhanabarathy did a decent Panneer Pushpanal so I can believe he did Gunaa also himself. "

eppadi? How do you take this leap of faith? Granted PP is a decent film. But adhOda sensibility enna? Gunaavoda sensibility enna? adhoda creative vision enna? Gunavoda creative vision enna?

ipdi motta thalaikkum muzhangalukkum mudichu pOttuttu nIngaLE oru strawman create paNNi adhai odaichuttu tata sonNA epdingaREn?

I just dont understand this.
Also, you are bracketing SSR with SB. idhuvum strawman. As I observer, SSR's creative inputs are far more visible - I am quoting this with logic in the sense that one of SSR's previous films where he is likely to have had more creative control had screeenplay contrivances seen in MMKR. I have seen him talking in Telugu about his movies and his creative vision and I believe there is sufficient material there to show his inputs.

Santhanabarathyin indha interviewvaiyo vERa endha interviewvaiyO alladhu padaippayO vechu Gunaa-vai avarOda Creative VisionA epdi solRInga?

[Plum]

fell in love with that title Somakodidhi soppakodidhi (correcta) ever since I heard that. With SSR, it was more of a collaborative effort. Not sure why app clubs SSR with SB

"SommokkaDidhi sOkkokkadidhi."
Interesting title considering the double role, which is unusually treated - a precursor to MMKR in that way.
It means "Soththu oruthanOdadhu, anubhavikkiravan innoruthan".

[app_engine]

Plum,
Sorry if I sounded unclear

In my case, "not getting perturbed over trivial things is healthy"nnu mean paNNinEn (never meant others bashing me).

OTOH, my careless appreciation of that video - reNdE reNdu claps pOttEn, aththOda vidAmal discussion vERa paNNinEn, that's why guilt feeling. Please go to a few pages back that had led to the definite trashing of SB & Singeetham. (dummy, samosa, bakkoda etc)

pAvam ennAl avangaLukku edhukku adi kidaikkaNum?

[app_engine]

BTW, SSR-SB club paNNinadhu nAn illainga...

Please ask SKV

[Plum]

App - ok I dont want to answer for Sakal. Coming back to the point in discussion, ivLO veLakkamA "Why SB couldnt have visualised Gunaa or made Guna except as an Astend directornu" veLakkamA solli irukkOm. idhukku badhil "i want to be healthy. So bye" dhAnA?

Gunaa audio cassetlEyE avaru contribution theLivA theriyunga "Abirami ladiesku pudicha title", "adhu oru karuththu" ellAm weld-famous dhAnE?