Khan Saheb Kamal Haasan's Jamaat/Jeba Koottam/Devasthaanam - Part 8

[Plum]

Ahnnn... GV Pirgasu. Malaysiala rendu ticket uRudhi

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

Sommaokkaandha Sokkudhudee

idhukku enna arththam?

According to Santhanabharathi, it means SamosaavakKandaa Sokkuthe (manam)

[irir123]

happened to watch Thevar magan (again) last week!

1. Kamal asks Gowthami to use the right leg to step into their house, just as she is abt to land her feet, the crackers go off behind, she stumbles and Kamal tries to fend off her off-balance, touching her hands, and Sivaji frowns/ winces watching this, Kamal is embarassed to notice this, takes away his hands, and gowthami looks back at the fireworks - cut - chinna thevar's family's reaction to the fireworks !! what detailed nuanced screenplay! sometimes I feel Kamal fills up his scripts with way too many things, that ppl can find that exhausting / if not distracting! on this occasion though, everything is linked to what we will see next - the fireworks are the central point around which the stumbling, scowling and rival family bitching is all built!

2. 'maasaru ponney varuga' showcasing the new thevar's wife's pregnancy, the script morphing that situation into the ambaal coming out of the temple in a 'ther' after a long time, both linked by the same song - 'maasatra penn' = Panchavarnam = the ambaal!! salute to the IR-Kamal combo!

3. how does IR manage to bring out the sense of foreboding in Kamal's scripts like this one & Mahanadhi ? the camera pans off from characters to scan the sky and the BGM kindof prepares one for something untoward abt to happen - the scenes leading to vadivelu losing his hand, or the canal sabotage are testimony to this! or in Mahanadhi, IR's 'amaanushya' BGM motif in the initial scenes when Haneefa meets him (cauvery as the backdrop!) gives off a sense of foreboding as well

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

irir123, come online for few mins

[app_engine]

Question:

That SB was the director in the sense that he shouted "action", "cut" and moved equipment in between samosa snacks? Are these more important to you than anything creative? How is this different from what was said earlier?

Answer:

...it involved delegation of very significant tasks; and can't emphasize enough the point that the executor himself had to be someone who shares the passion of creating the movie...

(bold font by me)

And regarding sankarlAl, I do a "+1" for P_R's post (that it shouldn't be called a directorial work of KH) I had to bring it because of the 'does app_e know this' question. This seems to be the attitude 'Bharathanukku thamizh nAdunnA ennennE theriyAdhu'

Clarification: It wasn't my intention in the sankarlAl song post to show KHF's in a bad light (that they hate to take debit for disasters while only wanting credit for creative inputs) ; it was just a casual remark on the wiki article's frivolous claim. Neither do I remember posting any in this thread to malign KHF's of a 'parisu kidaiththAl enakku - udhai kidaiththAl unakku' attitude!

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

App, I only posted that Sankarlal and that too to show that KH too had did ghost direction like what SB and SSR did for Kamal films. Meaning, KH shost directed the rest of Sankarlal and there is no creative inputs from him, he cannot claim the movie is his. Likewise SB and SSR cannot claim those movies they worked with KH as director becos they are not writen by them.

Rest of the issues already addressed(like SSR helping kamal in enhancing the script, means, contributing some inputs, not creating the script)

[SoftSword]

IR ah illa ARR ah??

indha panjayatthu kooda mudinjadhu...
arr songs... ir bgm...

[app_engine]

Question - was there 'other-than-acting' inputs from Kamal for the two "BM-credited" movies?

If so, how much?

(BTW, the movies are moonRAm piRai 1982 & sathi leelAvathi 1995)

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

On related note, Kamal's lot of inputs r there in Punnagain Mannan Chaplin Mama Character.

Head back few pages in this thread, i posted a vid where kamal explains that he did lot of extra works both physical and creative(choreography) works in Ek tu Je keliye.

Maniratnam had couple of times said in interviews that in Naayagan, there very many of Kamal's creative inputs. Physical input - Kamal forced Delhi Ganesh and co-artists to undergo deep haircut to show age-off. Some of them were reluctant and to pacify them, kamal himself did the Navithan job for them!

The ManakkaNakku ling posted by P_R - the jokes, the way he talks walks speaks, all are so kamal'ish. Appdiye thaniyaa theriyum

[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

This week Vikatan.