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6th September 2012, 11:27 PM
#1661
Senior Member
Platinum Hubber
senthiv.com,
nanRi for the Saroj youtube - veettil pOy pArkkaNum 
Plum,
Hub Shank (i.e. BR blog's Shankar for that 'saRRu munbu' post) is different from our old tfmpage / Hub / dhool Shankar.
I got confused and created the issue yesterday ; that is cleared up today.
(BTW, dhool/tfmpage/Hub Shankar is BITS, webgate.motorola, CISCO...avarai Bangalore & Trichy'la personalA meet paNNi irukkEn, ennOda linkedin-la irukkAr etc...
"Hub Shank" sArai inga mattum thAn idhu varai theriyum; Sureshji friendu; inRu mudhal avar BR bloggilum iruppadhai aRindhEn)
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6th September 2012 11:27 PM
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6th September 2012, 11:29 PM
#1662
Junior Member
Junior Hubber
Listened to NEPV. Most songs are listenable but not his greatest in recent times. As someone have posted here, Pithamagan and Naan Kadavul fair better. I got a headache after listening to NEPV songs may be because the music dominates vocals (or not balanced well). Secondly, the interludes sound nice standalone, fail to jive neither with the pallavi nor the charanam. Gives me the impression all of these are done in seclusion (that's not IR's trait). It a another rehash of his old tunes/melodies and I see no new Genre of music (as claimed by GVM).
Further, on Vaanam Mella, you can see the sub-standard sound editing. You can notice IR taking breadth at the end of the 1st pallavi (right after tharunam...tharunam.., after he finishes his portion). But this song is the best melody in the whole album apart from Saindhu Saindhu (sans Yuvan's singing).
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6th September 2012, 11:49 PM
#1663
Senior Member
Diamond Hubber

Originally Posted by
doraip
Listened to NEPV. Most songs are listenable but not his greatest in recent times. As someone have posted here, Pithamagan and Naan Kadavul fair better. I got a headache after listening to NEPV songs may be because the music dominates vocals (or not balanced well). Secondly, the interludes sound nice standalone, fail to jive neither with the pallavi nor the charanam. Gives me the impression all of these are done in seclusion (that's not IR's trait). It a another rehash of his old tunes/melodies and I see no new Genre of music (as claimed by GVM).
Further, on Vaanam Mella, you can see the sub-standard sound editing. You can notice IR taking breadth at the end of the 1st pallavi (right after tharunam...tharunam.., after he finishes his portion). But this song is the best melody in the whole album apart from Saindhu Saindhu (sans Yuvan's singing).
I see a pattern. When kamal does extra-ordinary stuff, set of critics who are anti-kamal will take great efforts to find micro faults and build-up them as a larger schema, and point that as a reason to reject the product. They will mandatorily include this line"Ivar enna ulaga naayagan? ivlo mistakes irukku??"
Same thing here.
But the pattern i mentioned is, some how, great artists "force" critics to get into deeper level of their product and analyse them and find silly mistakes! (taking breath
)
These critics will talk about only mistakes and generally they don't really "find" any mistakes so they go ahead to "create" mistakes and project them bigger! Never a moment they will talk about what exactly is new and exceptional in the product, and they will never wear the fan's shoe even for a moment. Instead, will glue their legs into critics shoe! Appadiyum, still its Raja who gloriously wins in the end! Thus, Raja actually, even raise the bar for the critic too! Critics feel confident that they can write off even greater works! Though that confidence is a bubble
NEPV is not just an album, its a Statement of a Genius' Musical Capability!
Last edited by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar; 6th September 2012 at 11:53 PM.
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6th September 2012, 11:50 PM
#1664
Senior Member
Seasoned Hubber

Originally Posted by
V_S
While that sax takeover of repeat pallavi into the second interlude of Saayndhu Saayndhu is haunting me for ever even in my dreams, today I just peeped into the last two songs of NEPV which I never listened earlier; PengaL endraaL and Satru Munbu. I am torn into pieces. Yuvan

Ramya

Na. Muthukumar

. When Yuvan utters 'Kaathaadi' and when Ramya utters 'yEnada' and 'yennada' with NaM's touching lyrics, I am all done with my music searching. A male solo and a female solo, almost mirroring situation, yet what a contrast in the compositions. The hard rock mode given his nerve and a opera/classical mode for a depressing girl.
This soundtrack is a mighty one and a pinnacle in music (in terms of everything what music has to offer) no one can ever dream to touch it, not even reach it and it might take years/lifetime for us to get into it fully, still don't know for sure. Maestro has proved his 'raatchasan' in himself when it comes to music and the expectations. For God's sake please don't even compare this insane inhuman with any music directors/composers of any era or in any context. It will be a big shame to music.
Very well said V_S. And the second interlude of Saainthu Sainthu (epdi ezhuthurathu!) is arguably one of top 3 interludes of this album
. Just I tweeted the same, yesterday.
BTW
யோவ் என்னையா நடக்குது இங்க , சுனிதி மேடத்த சரோஜ் நாராயண சுவாமி, கே பி சுந்தரம்பாள் அப்டி இப்டினுட்டு. ஆனா ஒன்னு அம்மணி ஸ்பீக்கர முழுங்கி வாய்க்கு உள்ளார வச்சுருக்கு அப்டின்றது மற்றும் உறுதி. நிகழ்ச்சியில் நேரடியா பார்த்து அசந்துட்டேன்
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7th September 2012, 12:21 AM
#1665

Originally Posted by
doraip
Listened to NEPV. Most songs are listenable but not his greatest in recent times. As someone have posted here, Pithamagan and Naan Kadavul fair better. I got a headache after listening to NEPV songs may be because the music dominates vocals (or not balanced well). Secondly, the interludes sound nice standalone, fail to jive neither with the pallavi nor the charanam. Gives me the impression all of these are done in seclusion (that's not IR's trait). It a another rehash of his old tunes/melodies and I see no new Genre of music (as claimed by GVM).
Further, on Vaanam Mella, you can see the sub-standard sound editing. You can notice IR taking breadth at the end of the 1st pallavi (right after tharunam...tharunam.., after he finishes his portion). But this song is the best melody in the whole album apart from Saindhu Saindhu (sans Yuvan's singing).
dorai saab!
It is Raaja genre. Period. there is no second thought. GVM wanted an urban touch to all songs and IR gave just that...I dont think IR has done this to prove his talent...All songs are great musical stuff and it takes a hell to recreate them on stage or in a studio by others. Saindhu is of the same calibre or even more than the "Titanic" movie song!
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7th September 2012, 12:25 AM
#1666

Originally Posted by
Sureshs65
Superbly put V_S. My request to everyone is the same. This is an album at an entirely different level when it comes to film music and I see it as milestone in Indian film music, just like 'Guru' was.
This is definitely on par with "Guru"...or even better...Guru went unnoticed...this one should not...
Meanwhile I dont see reviews from big websites...I have not seen review even by Thatstamil...
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7th September 2012, 12:30 AM
#1667
Senior Member
Platinum Hubber
irir123 must be a happy person right now 
He need not struggle / run around poor quality audio files / disks / song-choices etc to showcase rAsA to his western acquaintances 
I don't know if Sony has plans to ship CD's abroad...(indhiyAla irundhA niRaiya vAngi avarukku anuppi irukkalAm)
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7th September 2012, 12:39 AM
#1668

Originally Posted by
Nerd
Horrible review. I don't mean that the rating is bad, but her criticism is so meh. No real insight on why she thinks that her so called expectation was not met.
Very mundane review...I dont know how she missed all these record of sorts...
1. 8 songs in a single film in the current film industry...
2. making all the songs appealing
3. No song is out of melody
4. A symphony orchestra being used for a film music
5. most important, all are "written music" and not computer generated music
6. creation @70
7. though all are ultra modern composition with wide variety of genres, all songs are poetic (except maybe pudikkalae song)
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7th September 2012, 01:05 AM
#1669
Senior Member
Veteran Hubber
MelHarmony,
There are some previous albums in recent yrs with 7 or 8 compositions, say....Rahman's JA, Delhi 6, endhiran etc..
It doesn't mean anything for some people!
Raja's AA DINAGALU - 2007 has only 2 compositions or TIK TIK TIK - 1981 has only 3 songs
love everything about those compositions & the albums!
I emotionally connect with them!
'good music' they appeal to me etc... are relative term.
all compositions appeal to you, good for you!
Not everyone has to warm up to all compositions!
symphony orchestra is used for a film music!
that's nice, Raja has enjoyed surely!
It's good NEPV producers has money to spend which Raja appreciated very much.
that doesn't mean anything to some folks!
I bet with no orchestral gimmicks, melodic, minimalistic - 'oh....sajna - Parakh of Salilda or early IR's suga mo aayiram..... etc.. they may be cherishing forever!
Last edited by baroque; 7th September 2012 at 02:01 AM.
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7th September 2012, 01:09 AM
#1670

Originally Posted by
Sureshs65
Vinod,
Today also I have just been listening to the drumming. Outstanding, 'abaaram' and all that. No words. This fellow is excellent.
The drumming in the album is really of top class..I hada longstanding varutham on IR music...he missed out Sivamani from his troop due to various reasons. there was no one to fill that gap...who can forget "vaanam keezhe" or "aattam ingae" or "pesa koodaathu" etc.,. This album has satisfied me by having a good drummer with a good quality instrument.
but i have a few questions...
1. In Saindhu I feel the hi-hats could have been used in a open mode always. Actually it is opened from the beginning till the end of 1st interlude.....after that inside the 1st charanam and after that it is used in a closed manner..."
2.. tom tom is used at many places... But i dont hear rim click...
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