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[sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar]

SKV
There's a little problem with this explanation. The synth sound is being heard in Raaja albums till today and it's not like he is using something in his song that he only used ages back. Of course, i don't mean to join the bandwagon of the people who just make fleeting comments like ('80s music with modern orchestration', 'ennodu va va gives an 80's feel', etc)

Bala, I actually am not very sure about this whole 'sounding dated' et all. It started with then Srinivas said that in his facebook page and a person mentioned thus

http://www.facebook.com/srinivas.dor...al_comments=44

Srikanth Devarajan Every song is a delight and done with a freshness and all live..no synth - ennodu vaa vaa the entire second bgm, 2nd charanam is on keyboard synths (old dx7 sounds). For some reason there no single strings or wind part found in previous charanam. Telugu version of Saayndhu Saayndhu sung by Shaan is about a million lightyears better than the Tamil version.
Friday at 6:16pm

Others, Is this person already known to hubbers? Is this the person some where discussing here?!?

[musiukunit]

If you are listening music just for fun, and concluding only based on the output, it is better we don't talk further about it. For me and most here, music is not fun.

I think that is why brigs is saying what he is..its just music/arts as fun..its not fun..atleast not when it is namma raja

'Let's enjoy everything' is a rude word here. Again it does not apply to true music fans. Being a Maestro fan and being exposed to his music for the 35 years, I can never do that, cause I will only be fooling Maestro and his music and in turn myself.

Absolutely golden...when everybody says enjoy everything..it is not possible..we can enjoy but its just momentary...
However when we enjoy something that is close to our heart like raja there is nothing like it...
That is why there is unheard enjoyment in internet about NEPV...

[senthilv.com]

Bala, I actually am not very sure about this whole 'sounding dated' et all. It started with then Srinivas said that in his facebook page and a person mentioned thus

http://www.facebook.com/srinivas.dor...al_comments=44



Others, Is this person already known to hubbers? Is this the person some where discussing here?!?

Yes. He is an old time hubber. He left the forum a long while ago. If I'm right, it was because of difference in arguments pertaining to Raja music. (Other old time hubbers may know better) Personally I learned a lot from his posts.

[musiukunit]

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Posted in raja fans..brilliant

The first part talks about the difference between improvisation (various possibilities) and raja's composition

[MelHarmony]

V.S. You have just aired the feelings of each and every fan of Maestro. Thank you sir!

I too fully agree...if we have to enjoy every type of music we wont be spending time in this blog...IR has elevated the souls to next level and is calling all of us to come to the other side of the river...if we are staying on the wrong side and listening, crap we will be the losers...
The process of musical creation is equally important because it decides the richness, originality of creation, harmony content by not spoiling one's soul, etc., Similarly there are several factors in common for music in a general sense. Let us not discuss that here. We all have come here because of the musical outcome coming out of a specialized process, mastered only by IR in this generation...

[MelHarmony]

Vocals recorded in Mumbai and then they are taken to London.

I remember reading that IR had used a click track (with the help from KR) in TiS because instrumental pieces were recorded first with the help of some informal singing by IR (at Budapest) during the recoding session (You can see the Making of the TiS video in Youtube, showing IR singing several pieces together with the orchestra). Then he came to Chennai and recorded the Voice tracks separately and it was mixed in US.

Similarly for NEPV I believe a click track might have been used for the final vocal recording...Using a click track for vocal recording is very difficult if the song is of oratorio form (TiS) because it doesnt follow a specific beat pattern. Thats why we can identify some places in TiS at which IR missing the beat (Sivapuranam, Poovar senni mannan, Pooyeru konum). But in NEPV I believe it would have been much easier since all the songs are having a definitive rythmic pattern...

[writeface]

Yes. He is an old time hubber. He left the forum a long while ago. If I'm right, it was because of difference in arguments pertaining to Raja music. (Other old time hubbers may know better) Personally I learned a lot from his posts.

SrikanthD used to participate in tfmpage before it
became the hub. He is a musician too.
Gokul

[Gregorysab]

Completely disagree with this over simplification of 80's Raaja. How can you box 80s into a single easy categorization? If anything, the (early) 80s Raaja was the epitome of extreme experimentation. I'm not sure if you intended it that way, but your post implies that this is the first time Raaja has 'surprised' or done something unexpected

I am not at all over-simplifying the 80s All i am saying is that the 'mood', that 1st interlude, and the whole pallavi of Ennodu Vaa has the "Light songs of Ilaiyaraaja in 80s" feel... you know... the stuff that goes into cds with titles like "Romantic Hits of Raaja" etc , along with songs like "Ilaya nila" etc.. But Satru Munbu and Mudhal Murai sound way too contemporary (and ahead) to me. I dont mean to say that they are more complex than 80s.but their treatment seems different. I lean more towards World Music in them.

If there is anything common between 80s and this album - it is actually the aggression and energy in Raaja to carve all the 8 songs into gems. Yes, there were albums in 90s/post 2000s in which all the songs were good. Kaalaapani, Guru, Uliyin Osai etc., but in the genre of Urban romance, its been very long time I think.

[San_K]

a very different results on same kind of poll

http://www.facebook.com/questions/521873451171978/

[Plum]

aakarsh - I still dont get the concept of "Dated".
For example, take "Mudhal MuRai". On the face of it, a full throated, full vigour, Sunidhi vehicle(Bala (K) - idhula edhavadhu Rock, hevy metal irukkA?) is new and unexpected from Raja

But step back a bit.
Go to 2005-06.
Kasthoorimaan.

"Ennai KEtkum kELvi" is a very similar song, except that he made half-throated Tippu sing it - hence the effect didnt impact fully. Down to the violin solo structure in the first interlude.

There is a method to his madness - contineesA experiment paNNikittE irukKAr. And when he gets a chance like this, you se the result of that experimentation

People are saying thi albumla experiment - no baby, experiment alreayd paNNiyAchu. This is the modified output based on refining afer the experiments

P.S: idhai vechukittu sila pEru "Mudhal muRai" is rehash of "ennai ketkum" apdinnu twittAma irundha Sari