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10th September 2012, 02:19 AM
#1941
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Originally Posted by
Plum
Aakarsh,. sorry about the tamil so let me indulge you now (at the cost of others except suresh)
nEnu aduguthunnadhi evitantE:
"Dated" ani chebuthE EdhO peddha kuRRalA annatam lEdhu nEnu. nEnu anEdhi evitantE, ee "dated" anE feel mee andhariki elA kadhuluthnnadhani. udhArAnikki theeskuNTE, 90s-lo Malayalamlo Ravindran mash, Johnson mash andharu chEsina musicni analyse chEsthE, vaatini Dated aNTArA? vaatini vinnappudu eppudu A dated anE angle nAkku anupincha lEdhu. kAni, oka ragangA meeru andharu dated ani cheputhindhi evitani nenu guess chEsEdhi correct aithE, vaatini kooda meer andharu dated antAru? CorrectnA?
asalu music vintunappudu I angleLo choodadam mee andhariki elA sAguthunnadhani nA prashnam
dhAniki oka ragangA ardhamayEthattu samAdhAnam ichAru - kAni inkA nAkku poorthigA arthamkAvatam lEdhu.
maLLI idhE prashnam vERE vidhangA aduguthAnu. prasthAniki salavu theeskuntunAnu. dhanyavAdhAlu!
Telugu chinchaaru 
Lets ignore the word "dated" for a moment because when I am using it, I am intending to map the song to a specific time-line in Raaja's career (which is 80s in this case). What I am trying to say is - the style of tune and the treatment reminds of songs in a certain timeline.
For example: When Kaatre Konjam first came in soundcloud link, I felt it's melody had shades of "Unnai Thedi" (hariharan sang it, which film?) married to the melody in KJY-Raaja-Balu Mahendra songs. Now if i listen to Unnai Thedi today, I really feel that it has same melodic quality (melodic pinnacle) as some of the best Raaja songs in 80s. Just that when Unnai Thedi came in 2000, the groovy backgrounds made me feel its a fantastic fusion (which it is) while back then, my mind couldnt map it in "hey, the melody of this song is so golden era of raaja kind". I enjoyed that song in 2000, in a different perspective and today, I enjoy it with a different perspective. This harking back - in terms of the "kind of melody" - is where this operative word "dated" coming up for most people, although I hate to use this word because of negative connotations. which is why I conveniently say "makes me go retro".
Another example:
Vaanam Mele: The generic syntax of this song makes me feel that I can rank this song among "Oli Tharum", "Yaarum Thodaatha". The philosophy of Raaja in all these songs, has been more or less same (that all are sung by Raaja-female singer further makes us feel so). The extensive string orchestra work, a repetitive melodic phrase that stamps onto hummability quotient, gentle feel melody etc. I might not be using the word "dated" here, because these songs are recent... but if I have to indicate the "kind of song" that Vaanam mele is.. I will have to point people to these songs, harking back to a specific time-period (in this case, its recent, which thankfully eliminates the specific word dated). That said, I am not undermining the beauty of Vaanam mele. As I have expressed before, I personally lean more towards Mudhal Murai, Satru Munbu, Kaatre Konjam and Pengal endral because they are giving me a totally new experience while Vaanam mele is giving me a familiar experience.
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10th September 2012 02:19 AM
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10th September 2012, 03:30 AM
#1942
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Looks like decent response in Telugu Desam too
After struggling for a decade to give peppy numbers to Telugu audience with
movies like, Anumanaspadam, Om Shanti, Mallepuvvu and Gaayam 2, Maestro scored
hits with a couple of songs, but youths never connected to them. Now he is back
with a bang and his latest 'Yeto Vellipoyindi Manasu' is a chartbuster with
grooving numbers and heart grinding extravaganzas. The Nani-Samantha starrer
under Gautham Menon's direction will be a treat for music lovers for now, as
Ilayaraja is at his best.
Critics are saying that Ilayaraja has finally connected to the hearts of 2012 youths and
there seems no stopping for him. While the whole Indian musicians are on one
side, Maestro is on other side. Get ready to get mesmerized by his music guys!
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10th September 2012, 06:55 AM
#1943
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Looks like IR used the services of this production unit.. and guess what, it's their first venture.
http://www.angloindianmusic.com/index.htm
http://www.angloindianmusic.com/TEST...S(2692448).htm
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10th September 2012, 10:07 AM
#1944

Originally Posted by
sivasub
Great, thanks for sharing this. As IR says I hope they work with him again and again.
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10th September 2012, 10:26 AM
#1945
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yeah..thanks for sharing! warm smiles from both!
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10th September 2012, 10:37 AM
#1946
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Originally Posted by
aakarsh
Another example:
Vaanam Mele: The generic syntax of this song makes me feel that I can rank this song among "Oli Tharum", "Yaarum Thodaatha". The philosophy of Raaja in all these songs, has been more or less same (that all are sung by Raaja-female singer further makes us feel so). The extensive string orchestra work, a repetitive melodic phrase that stamps onto hummability quotient, gentle feel melody etc. I might not be using the word "dated" here, because these songs are recent... but if I have to indicate the "kind of song" that Vaanam mele is.. I will have to point people to these songs, harking back to a specific time-period (in this case, its recent, which thankfully eliminates the specific word dated). That said, I am not undermining the beauty of Vaanam mele. As I have expressed before, I personally lean more towards Mudhal Murai, Satru Munbu, Kaatre Konjam and Pengal endral because they are giving me a totally new experience while Vaanam mele is giving me a familiar experience.
Understand where you are coming from..but to me vaanam mella except for the vocals is classic WCM in the whole of NEPV . Especially the interludes, Oboe usage is more and more of Bach style
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10th September 2012, 11:28 AM
#1947
Junior Hubber
For those who have some classical music int., Katrai konjam is a lovely melody set to Sankarabaranam ! R2 , G3 , M1 and D2 are dominant throughout the song but the charanam ends at D1 which is unShankarabaranamish !! That’s why the song is so melodious and attracts everyone on first hearing itself .IR is a mysterious guy when it comes to Carnatic classical ! However, I reserve my comments on Hindustani prowess.
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10th September 2012, 04:08 PM
#1948
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Originally Posted by
Plum
And vinandi vinandi, thappakonda KasthoorimAn vinandi. chAlA manchi pAttalu unnAyi. Enani kEtkum dheenikki (mudhal murai) precursor aithE, kEkkalaiyO kEkkalaiyO ani oka kOlAttA stylelo melody koodA undhi.
kAni Tippu kastha dhaarananga padAdu. adhE O minus point. ainA oka sAri vinAndi. Regret cheyyaru
/Digression to Kasthoorimaan
You are right. Ennai Ketkum is sort of precursor to Mudhal Murai, except that the synth percussions level is a tad higher thus resulting in a sort of higher degree of "Pop"-isation of the song, compared to Mudhal Murai. And yes, why Tippu!!!! Royally screws the feel in the composition! Pch!
This song is set in Simhendramadhyamam! why did Raaja give this beautiful composition to Tippu! Dear Raaja, why such indiscreet attitude towards the vocals in this otherwise brilliant composition?
kekalayo is also good! sounds like Suddha Dhanyasi to me! Tippu sounds better in this song than in Ennai Ketkum!
//digression ends
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10th September 2012, 08:24 PM
#1949
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No one can dislike 'mudhal muRai pArththa gnAbakam'
At the max, people can say 'idhu rAsA pAttu mAthiri illai' etc
The strings (esp. cello) manadhai rambam koNdu aRukkum vallamai koNdavai...
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10th September 2012, 08:27 PM
#1950
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app,
I heard the Telugu version of 'mudhal murai' yesterday (the one you posted.) First impression, probably Tamil lyrics are better. Yet to hear any other song in Telugu.
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