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14th September 2012, 07:31 AM
#2051
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(K) - vijayr comes from the MSV melody school. OraLavukku 80sla orchestrationukku ticket vAnguvAr. At some stage, he got influenced by his performer friends in US, being introduced to pure performers' (Read SPB) songs which have a lot of twists and turns in melody. Since then, he has been looking purely for tune elements and geting constantly disappointed - although it is purely bias if he is nt enchanted by the tune elements of kaNNil pArvai etc.
Plus, ingE in this page, IR bhaktas got into fights with him, but due to circumstances, certain other fans started worshipping him. apdiYE andha fansOda kula deivamA form AyittAr. Kevin Pietersen thannOda dressing room hostilitynAla opposing dressing room playersku friend Anadhu pOla. apdiyE dhisai mARiya paRavai....
Basically, it just shows how much human ego needs to be massaged. isaiyai vida, uNmaiyai vida, namma ego massage AgudhA - idhu dhAn perumbAlum makkal pAkkaRadhu
That is why I have lot of respect for Hard Core Music Composer Fans - whichever MD they are a fan of, there is a point of view there - even i fthey cannot articulate, there is a certain sensibility that they are fan of. Which is more respectable than music appreciation that comes out of the person's ego ("anti-IR fans worship me, so let me (unconsciously) become anti=iR", "I want to prove I am neutral and unbiased, so (unsonsciously) let me appreciate all music" etc)
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14th September 2012 07:31 AM
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14th September 2012, 09:38 AM
#2052
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove
Pudikala mamu-ku enna koraichal. Different standards apply panraingalE.
Btw 70 year old

BTW, you were right. Some part of the movie atleast seems to take place in the 80s. That is what Na.Muthukumar says. Also says that he why he choose words like 'maamu' because they were popular in the 80s.
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14th September 2012, 09:40 AM
#2053
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Waiting with bated breath !!
Just had a meeting with a musician couple - Texas's leading flutist and her well-known oboist husband - abt NEPV ! and gave them SONY Music's youtube link - they agreed to listen to the album ONLY after I assured them that the youtube link is officially sanctioned and released by SONY Music South ! to quote the lady "we dont want to steal someone's music" - now thats integrity for you!
anyway, they are (hopefully) listening to the album in their studio (part of their home) in their state-of-the-art music system
this couple btw, introduced me to Brahms, Led Zeppelin et al
and they totally loved 'Nandalala'!
this is what I told them "fans like me are of the opinion that the composer has ventured into new territory - It feels like a judicious blend of jazz, rock, and orchestral genres! yet, as amateurs, we are not able to get a handle on what it is - your taking time to listen to this album and giving it an honest, heartfelt opinion/review of the same would be much appreciated"
and i convinced them to the extent that towards the end of our conversation, they asked me for the iTUNES link to buy the album online
by tomorrow, hopefully, they will let me know of what they thought of NEPV !
still a long way to go
tomorrow, after work am going to a jazz concert featuring an experimental guitarist-percussionist, who has already heard the youtube samples and fascinated by the sound! and has invited me over
Last edited by irir123; 14th September 2012 at 09:42 AM.
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14th September 2012, 10:17 AM
#2054
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anyone from the hub living in Germany ?
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14th September 2012, 11:11 AM
#2055
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Originally Posted by
Plum
That is why I have lot of respect for Hard Core Music Composer Fans - whichever MD they are a fan of, there is a point of view there - even i fthey cannot articulate, there is a certain sensibility that they are fan of. Which is more respectable than music appreciation that comes out of the person's ego ("anti-IR fans worship me, so let me (unconsciously) become anti=iR", "I want to prove I am neutral and unbiased, so (unsonsciously) let me appreciate all music" etc)
You nailed it Plum! Thanks for articulating it so well. Especially the last sentence... I see nothing but a huge ego in their preachy posts. That holier than thou attitude is quite sickening.
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14th September 2012, 12:09 PM
#2056
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Happened to listen to Kumki this morning on Thiraipaadal. (although the template is similar to Myna, this surely is a laudable effort by D.Imman).
The album has 10 tracks in all of which 3 are karaoke versions. Now, these instrumental tracks, apart from ‘getting rid’ of the vocals, also help in getting a good look at the quality of orchestration done by the composer. Now, this album’s on Sony too. It got me wondering on why they didn’t incorporate this idea in the NEPV album, which perhaps is the sort of soundtrack that, by nature of its style, ‘commands’ something like this. And not just this aspect, imagine pengal endraal karaoke - it has everything to become a sarakku session karaoke classic! Angst-ridden ‘youths’ will mostly wail their hearts out with this one! (think Dev D’s emotional athyachaar)
Just think of some of the options available at Sony’s/GVM’s disposal:
1) demo versions (with Raaja’s vocals, guitars and drums)
2) karaoke tracks
3) BGM/soundtrack (of course, post movie-release)
4) Collector’s edition (a sumptuous offering with all elements they can think of)
The album can very easily be a cash-cow if they really want it to be. The first release, apart from the good recording quality, offers little else to brag about. Whether they’re planning some extended milking or if they’ll simply waste the opportunity will be interesting to wait and see.
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14th September 2012, 12:52 PM
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irir123,
Superb. I hope the musician couple gives you some nice feedback. As usual, if you need any help from here, like buying and sending CDs, will be more than happy to help
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14th September 2012, 01:10 PM
#2058
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Originally Posted by
Sureshs65
BTW, you were right. Some part of the movie atleast seems to take place in the 80s. That is what Na.Muthukumar says. Also says that he why he choose words like 'maamu' because they were popular in the 80s.
Thanks. Yes, it seems that way.
Also this might be a film more about memory of that period, GPM's fondness for the period might translate in to a love story. Don't expect a rigid time slot. Actually not a lot of us could demarcate the period from mid-80's to mid-90's easily, our memories seem clustered by Raaja's songs. Only in 90's, did we get the extended distribution of VHS tapes of 80's films. (here, I'm not referring to songs alone. Which of course were always accessible with tape cassettes. But the images together with songs slot in to our memory better). 80's IR infested School functions, cultural programs of 90's (90's does really seem a confused period, sandwiched between 80's and then 00's, even private channels didn't break out until late 90's, even in cities), the radio days (from street speakers, to Tea shops to Household). Raaja's the subconscious unifying phenomenon in many ways. Even if this section might be in 90's, it can't help but harp back to the warped 80's..
...an artist without an art.
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14th September 2012, 01:44 PM
#2059
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Originally Posted by
Plum
(K) - vijayr comes from the MSV melody school. OraLavukku 80sla orchestrationukku ticket vAnguvAr. At some stage, he got influenced by his performer friends in US, being introduced to pure performers' (Read SPB) songs which have a lot of twists and turns in melody. Since then, he has been looking purely for tune elements and geting constantly disappointed - although it is purely bias if he is nt enchanted by the tune elements of kaNNil pArvai etc.
Plus, ingE in this page, IR bhaktas got into fights with him, but due to circumstances, certain other fans started worshipping him. apdiYE andha fansOda kula deivamA form AyittAr. Kevin Pietersen thannOda dressing room hostilitynAla opposing dressing room playersku friend Anadhu pOla. apdiyE dhisai mARiya paRavai....
Basically, it just shows how much human ego needs to be massaged. isaiyai vida, uNmaiyai vida, namma ego massage AgudhA - idhu dhAn perumbAlum makkal pAkkaRadhu
That is why I have lot of respect for Hard Core Music Composer Fans - whichever MD they are a fan of, there is a point of view there - even i fthey cannot articulate, there is a certain sensibility that they are fan of. Which is more respectable than music appreciation that comes out of the person's ego ("anti-IR fans worship me, so let me (unconsciously) become anti=iR", "I want to prove I am neutral and unbiased, so (unsonsciously) let me appreciate all music" etc)
what say! Awesome Plum !
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14th September 2012, 02:55 PM
#2060
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove
Thanks. Yes, it seems that way.
Also this might be a film more about memory of that period, GPM's fondness for the period might translate in to a love story. Don't expect a rigid time slot. Actually not a lot of us could demarcate the period from mid-80's to mid-90's easily, our memories seem clustered by Raaja's songs. Only in 90's, did we get the extended distribution of VHS tapes of 80's films. (here, I'm not referring to songs alone. Which of course were always accessible with tape cassettes. But the images together with songs slot in to our memory better). 80's IR infested School functions, cultural programs of 90's (90's does really seem a confused period, sandwiched between 80's and then 00's, even private channels didn't break out until late 90's, even in cities), the radio days (from street speakers, to Tea shops to Household). Raaja's the subconscious unifying phenomenon in many ways. Even if this section might be in 90's, it can't help but harp back to the warped 80's..
from the first listen itself i could understand that it was an 80/90s song... with the tune, arrangements and the choice of words... thats why i mentioned like its an Yethi Yethi kind of song from Raja while the fact is, Yethi Yethi by itself is a 80/90s Raja wannabe song from HJ(something like a oororamaa aatthuppakkam...)... one full cycle...
Last edited by SoftSword; 14th September 2012 at 03:49 PM.
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