Of course, and it also had a good run thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Arvind Srinivasan
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Of course, and it also had a good run thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Arvind Srinivasan
Can we change the title as Discussion on Mahanadhi & Hey Raam?
Simple as that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoftSword
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Originally Posted by venkkiram
I wish you would continue reading (not just Sakala's post but also the other posts that has been written) rather than refusing to engage beyond your question on Calcutta riots. You haven't responded to any of the larger questions raised/points made!Quote:
Originally Posted by venkkiram
But if you insist, it's not simply about how serious or heart-wrenching the scene is! To say something is a mainstream trope is not at all tantamount to doubting the artist's intentions as you seem to assume. You've been repeatedly arguing that it's disgusting to think of these as commercial elements, but the flaw is in the prism through which you view anything called "mainstream" or "commercial." Nobody said the riot scenes or the rape scene or what have you is inserted there as a commercial element or for commercial reasons. What is being said all these scenes are conceptualised using some mainstream conventions. Where there is an initial chase, suspense, shooting and so on. All Sakala says is that he found the sequence leading up to the rape engaging in a familiar way. I think this is readily understandable.
Anyway, the larger discussion is about the film. If you don't think it's a film that employs mainstream conventions, it's alright. My proposition here is, it's only by acknowledging the mainstream nature of the film and freeing oneself from superficial or downright silly constrictions (a la "oh but why does this sort of thing happen in what must really be a realistic film?"), one can truly get into the heart of the film.
simple... andha scene ungalukku paakka interestinga irundhadhaa? perunpaanmayaana target audienceku oru scene interestinga irundhaa adhu commercial... by which ppl here just mean keeping the viewer engaged to the scenes...Quote:
Originally Posted by venkkiram
Unlikeliness 'eeswaranOda leelai' illaama drama-vE kidaiyAdhu.
namba mudiyAdhadhai namba mudiyira maadhiri tharradhula dhaan kalaignan nikkiRaan 'ngREn
Calcutta riot scene koduththa impact-ai vida inge athai commercial enRa peyaril dissect panrathu payangara impact kodukkuthu!
Commercial-nA yEn 'ketta vaarthai' 'nRa range-layE maindain paNreenga?
To use another bad-word in the ilakkiya circuit- suvArasiyam.
padam suvArasiyamA irundhuchchA illaiyA? adhaan vishayam. Kamal is always striving to earn the audience's interest. He does not assume it is readily available.
super catch ya - swarasyam/interesting
P-R...usually people r thinking commercial movie means masala movie...
All this doesn't mean (to clarify what should be obvious) that I am suggesting that Hey! Ram is anything remotely like a full-on commercial film like Dhool or Ayan (or kAkka kAkka to intentionally include the likes of Gautham Menon who often tend to get a "clean chit" in this regard). It is indeed a serious, offbeat film but nevertheless one made in the mainstream format. Other than that, its failures at an obvious level to reach out to its audiences is well known to all of us. Which Sakala and PR have also captured here...
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Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Yes, the subject itself is quite muddled for Tamil with a catastrophic event that doesn't resonate all that much with people in this side of the country, the multiple languages involved and so on. And Kamal did reserve some bit of primacy to his Tamil identity, so it couldn't be made a proper Hindi film either. In that sense, he perhaps intended a truly pan-Indian film that he hoped would succeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R