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சென்னை: நடிகர் விஷால் துபாய் விமான நிலையத்தில் பார்க்க கமல் ஹாஸன் போன்று இருந்த நபரை சந்தித்துள்ளார். விஷால் சுந்தர் சி. இயக்கி வரும் ஆம்பள படத்தில் நடித்து வருகிறார். இந்த படத்தில் விஷாலுக்கு ஜோடியாக ஹன்சிகா நடித்துக் கொண்டிருக்கிறார். படத்தில் வரும் பாடல் காட்சிகளை படமாக்க விஷால், ஹன்சிகா உள்ளிட்டோர் இத்தாலி சென்றனர்.
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அப்போது துபாய் விமான நிலையத்தில் விஷால் கண்ட காட்சியை அவராலேயே நம்ப முடியவில்லையாம். காரணம் விமான நிலையத்தில் ஒருவர் பார்க்க உலக நாயகன் கமல் ஹாஸன் போன்று இருந்துள்ளார். அதிலும் அவரின் கண்கள் அப்படியே கமல் போன்று இருந்துள்ளது. இதை பார்த்த விஷால் அவரை அணுகி அவருடன் ஒரு புகைப்படத்தை எடுத்தார். உடனே அந்த புகைப்படத்தை தனது ட்விட்டர் பக்கத்தில் வெளியிட்டுள்ளார். கமல் சார் போன்று இருந்தவரை துபாய் விமான நிலையத்தில் பார்த்தேன் என்று விஷால் ட்வீட் செய்துள்ளார்.
Read more at: http://tamil.filmibeat.com/news/kama...ai-032432.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS3vzfubIBY
May KB's soul rest in peace
It will be best if UV gets released soon. It will be a great tribute. What timing!
RIP K balachander..he introduced & gave life to 2 legends in tamil industry and also gave life to 100's of good artist like prakash raj,etc which no other directors has done..My personal view -kamalhaasan in recent speech from LA clearly indicates he knows that KB cant survive anymore from words like "irattai artham edhuvum illaamal,mudinthaal ezhunthu vaarungal" ..knowing that he should have travelled to Chennai from LA to see KB at hospital..
anyway no one can take away the relationship between KB and KH..moochukku 1000 thadavai KB'ya pathi thaan KH pesuvaar..
With KB's unfortunate passing in the news just now, this is just the promotional push UV has and they'll probably use it. Much like how saarugaan used yash chopra passing for his hindi movie in 2012.
KB at his best..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDhdQe35uTA
From old achieves:
"There are some established norms and values in the Indian tradition. In many cases these are not to be questioned, but simply to be followed. Carnatic music is one such area. Our forefathers had said that there are raagas for different parts of the day, and likewise for different moods and events. For example, the morning raaga is said to be Poobaalam; raaga for noon is Saaranga; raaga for evening time is Vasanthaa; raaga depicting mercy is Neeelambari; raaga used to declare war is said to be Kambeera Naatai; raaga for happy mood is Danyaasi; raaga for composing Venbaa is Sangarabharanam; raaga for composing Agaval Paa is Thodi; raaga that is most appropriate for Tamil music is Kalyani etc. This is very much explained in the movie Sampoorna Ramayanam. However Ilayaraja begged to differ, with what he considered valid reasons, of course. He said in many concerts that he does not believe in such rigid principles. He took a bold stand to affirm that what you compose in the morning is morning raga, and whatever you compose in the evening is raga for the evening. Likewise what you compose in the afternoon is afternoon raga, he said. He went against such norms. In many of his concerts Raja had mentioned that he was not in favour of subscribing to blind imitation of old thoughts.
Sindhu Bairavi (1985) is a film where Balachander was able to reflect the thoughts of Raja. That was not pre- planned, but just happened to be a mere co incident.
One may recollect the film Unnal Mudiyum Thamby which has some controversial messages hitting at hard proponents of carnatic music who never welcomed modernisation in the carnatic music. Kamal’s dialogue with Gemini Ganesan is quite thought provoking. That film has nothing to do with Raja, other than that Raja composed music. But Sindhu Biaravi is one which by a strange coincidence reflected his own thoughts, which very timely concurred with the thoughts of Balachandeer as well. Perhaps Balachander never harboured such thoughts on carnatic music. He could have invented such controversial thoughts for the movie.
The one scene where Suhashini challenges Sivakumar at a carnatic concert very much seem to reflect the thoughts of Ilayaraja. Compared to any other MDS of recent times, Raja had fathomed into the very bottom of folk tunes as no one else. He had mastered the field of folk tunes and was unearthing the old and untold intricacies of folk music. Therefore he was more than the only qualified MD in recent times to compare and contrast carnatic music with folk music. Deep inside, Raja felt that all the emotions, feelings and depth found in the carnatic songs are adequately, if not, equally available in the folk tunes. This movie was produced at a time when Raja was extremely busy. He had no time to sit with big banner producers like K. Balachander to discuss song creation. But he availed himself for this Sindu Bhairavi. Balachander told the situation where Suhashini sings folk song and suddenly, and most unexpectedly switches to Carnatic tune. Raja understood the concept and went home to work on his imagination. Within 24 hours Raja came with what became the biggest controversy in his career. What Raja came out with was simply mind boggling. He not only captured the thoughts of Balachander, but also created a great controversy.
The song was picturised. The same musicians who played for carnatic song, played for folk tune, using the same instruments. Chitra starts with folk tune alright. But when she switched to singing suras she starts to sing Mari Mari Ninne, the Thiagaraya Keerthanai. All along this keerthanai was sung in Kamboji raga. But here Raja changed it to Saaramathy Raga. There was a volcanic eruption in Tamilnaadu. The proponents of Carnatic raga erupted with emotions, alleging and accusing that Raja was killing the very foundation and roots of carnatic music. They argued that while Thiagarayar had sung the keerthana in Kamboji raaga, Ilayaraja had switched it to Saaramathy raaga. Raja immediately retorted and replied, and even questioned them. He asked if any one could prove to him beyond any reasonable doubt if Thiagarayar did actually sing Mari Mari Ninne in Kamboji raaga. He threw another open challenge. He asked them to provide a list of all keerthanas and prove if they had been sung in the specific raagas as understood for ages. He threw an open challenge asking anyone to come forward to prove that. That challenge was not taken up by anyone until this day. Raja broke blind imitation.
Ilayaraja received national award for this film. Chitra too received national award, though I believe this was only her fifth Tamil film. Chitra had to decide between her MA final examinations and the recording of this song. Finally she sang it and bagged the coveted national award. It was not usual for Raja to appear for victory celebrations. But he did turn up for the victory celebrations of Sindu Bairavi. When he spoke, he said he turned out all for the respect he had for K. Balachander. "
Where is KH right now ? In LA ?
Expected to see him and Rajini at KB's final rites but only SS was present.
flight land aavurathukkula body-a thookkittaanunga ..
Actually it was planned tomorrow but because of nalla neram,ketta neramm,saathiram,etc..KB & Kamal idhellam namba maataanga but its family call..RIPQuote:
Originally Posted by Anban
For me aalavanthaan is one of the worst movie by kamalhaasan and watched only twice since its release..effort wise kamalhaasan has done its best but overall i didnt like the movie like few fans..Quote:
Originally Posted by Ravi Ravi
But when big shots like KB are appreciating the movie and hollywood director like Quentin Tarantino inspired by the movie wondering am i missing something?
Kamal - KB Irangal Seithigal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkLfmrdlGf8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i__j9X4VxTw
Merry Xmas
Paying tributes to the departed soul in person is a mark of respect.
No doubt.
But there is a habit of spreading amongst the community and society to project negative notions on those who could not make it for the reasons best known to them or unavoidable.
This should be stopped. Because a person is not able to make it to visit in person, it should not be deemed that he is not honest.
Let this arrogant approach stop from at least now.
தசாவதாரம் வெளிவருவதற்கு முதல் நாள், பிரத்தியேக காட்சிக்கு அழைத்திருந்தார் கமல். படம் பார்த்தேன். திரைப்படத்தின் தாக்கத்தில் இருந்து மீண்டு வர முடியவில்லை. அரங்கத்திற்கு வெளியே நின்று கொண்டிருந்த கமலின் கையை பிடித்து முத்தம் கொடுத்து, இரண்டு வார்த்தைகளை சொல்லி விட்டு வந்தேன். "கமல்...... ஒன்லி கமல்! " என்று ஒவ்வொரு முறையும் கமல் நிரூபித்து வருகிறார். கமல் தசாவதாரத்தில் விஸ்வரூபம் எடுத்திருக்கிறார் என்று தோன்றியது எனக்கு. நம்பமாட்டீர்கள்... அன்று இரவு முழுவதும் நான் தூங்கவே இல்லை. மீண்டும் மீண்டும் என் கண்ணுக்குள்ளேயே கமலின் பத்து அவதாரங்களும் நிழலாடிக்கொணடே இருந்தன. நடு நடுவில் "கல்லை மட்டும் கண்டால்" பாடலின் போது கமல் மேலே தொங்கும் அந்த மில்லியன் டாலர் ஷாட்டுகள்தான் வந்து போய்கொண்டிருந்தன.
--இயக்குநர் சிகரம் கே. பாலச்சந்தர்
what a superb movie PK is. Amir has the guts to pick at the bad effects of all religious practices. he covered almost all absurd evils in the name of religion, be it conversion by christian mission, fatwa by muslim clerics and of course 'magical deeds' performed by hindu gurus. kudos to the PK team.
why this post here? i would love to see KH adopts the same fearless tact while criticizing mad religious practices existing in india, not only Hinduism.
UV has become now days a real UV to Kamal. You compare AK with KH? Let AK associate with any knowledgeable creators in India and come up with one that's closer or half of what Mahanathi , Hey Ram, Devar Magan amd Virumandi being shaped. Then we can discuss here about AK here.
what a knee jerk reaction. that wasn't the point he was making. he appreciated Amir's fearless approach of exposing extreme and often illogical practices and wished Kamal adapts a similar approach. Don't think he was comparing the total body of work by both.Quote:
Originally Posted by venkkiram
Me too talking in the same context.
no venki sir..ur on wrong track here. as parani pointed out, i would be a fool to compare AK with KH film performance wise. i was only pointing out the risk AK has taken despite a muslim himself to be unbiased in criticizing all. i am proud to be UV to KH..UV=Unmai Vilambi
I agree to the point. But partially only .......... AK is a muslim and he targeted Hindu customs 95 percent and to be politically correct 5 percent the rest. And that 95 percent os usually a tolerant lot other than the minority saffron extreme thinkers. Whereas KH is a Hindu and if he does a 95 percent criticism of Muslims, he will either be suicide bombed or the movie will release in 2034.
i too agree sir..not 95%.. let him try the 5% about other religions malpractices but NO.
let me be frank. my anger is a recent one after watching anbe sivam. he will show one character always uttering thennadudaiya sivane potri and doing all atrocities and show christians as real angels sent by God to save earthly ppl. i was really disturbed by the selective amnesia kind of always projecting one religion and its followers in bad light. as u rightly pointed out 95 percent us are usually a tolerant lot.
Vishearoopathil ...... quran saatchiyaaga padukolaigal seivadai kaamikka villayaa ? KH is maturing like wine. Be patient.
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Originally Posted by dell_gt
at 0:24, did you notice Kamal mimics/ acts out annan Goundamani's paymous 'arya bhavan - toilet' scene with senthil ?
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Originally Posted by Unmai Vilambi
while I see what you mean - Kamal as a creative artiste has every right to do what he pleases - its upto the fans / patrons to either accept or reject what he says/shows.
btw, we don't need Kamal to tell us abt the crusades (Christian-Muslim clashes from the past), or the kind of faith-healing nonsense being perpetuated on the unsuspecting Indian mass by modern day evangelicals (with generous funding from abroad, which many ppl rightfully question), or the sheer irrationality/laughability of the belief of the virgin birth etc - the stupidity behind such beliefs are fairly obvious and Kamal doesn't have to point them out to us.
take a look at this - http://joshuaproject.net/people_groups/16521/IN
"Prayer Points
* Brahmins are a key community in India who uphold Hinduism. Please pray that the light of the gospel breaks through the veil that blinds this community.
* Pray that the true God will reveal Himself to this community and use Brahmins to preach and teach about Jesus Christ."
can it get any more condescending / patronizing than this ?? after seeing such BS, its no wonder that (hindutva) groups are up in arms !
also btw, the Joshua Project, FYKI has its origins in Colorado Springs, the same place that was home to one Ted Haggard - the anti-gay pastor who was caught with his pants down screwing a male prostitute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Haggard).
so Joshua project wants to export such 'esoteric. eclectic, supreme' culture to India !
andha yaeweh, illa, allah, illa, lord labakudas thaan namma makkala kaappaathhanum !
UV:
why do you think there is such a huge opposition to the proposed anti-conversion law/ban (which already is in vogue in a few states) ?
its because there are groups whose only pozhappu is conversion and they get paid (from abroad) to do this job - if the anti-conversion law comes into force, they will be jobless and hence the hue and cry.
same goes to immigration issue in Assam - Bangladeshis come into the country in droves looking for jobs - nothing wrong with that - but they are competing with the locals for the resources - it doesn't help that bangladesh happens to be predominantly islamic and keeps its ppl illiterate and unemployed - wait until this issue blows up as well.
AK should have the guts to address these issues
Joshuva..OMG..
Nice discussions from various fellow Hubbers. Though I resonate the same words of UV but I would like to counter by saying that AK is a calculative risk taker for commercial success where as KH is also a calculative risk taker but comes out with hurting the sentiments of section of a community i.e. so called upholder of hindu religion as cited by the Joshua project.
AK's PK was a satire on all the religions but for most part Hinduism. And this was done beautifully in a comic sense. And am surprised to see the various factions of Hinduism groups targeting it. Since he has projected 95% about Hinduism; he has overdone it. If it was going to be 95% about Islam or Christianity; I am sure the movie wouldn't have met with commercial success despite facing various backlashes from the religious communities. Delhi imam would have issued fatwa etc etc. I don't know why PK film had the rolling credits of AOL guru at the start. Is it for that swamiji?
There is very wrong pre-conceived notions about various religions by the filmmakers be it about Hinduism, Islam, Christianity and other world religions. We always tend to take a certain part of it and discuss it by making it a movie for some commercial success.
கமல் பெரியார் வழி. தனது மதம், சமூகம் எதோ அதையே விமர்சனம் செய்பவர்கள். இந்து என்ற ஒரு குடையே இடைப்பட்ட காலத்தில் நம்மீது விரிக்கப் பட்டதுதான். நமது புராதன வரலாறு, சடங்குகள், சாதிகள் மற்றும் கலாச்சார பண்பாட்டுத் தளங்களில் ஆழ்ந்த அறிவு கொண்டவர் கமல். சமீபத்தில் ஒரு காணொளியில் தனது விமர்சனம் ஏன் இந்து சமூகம் மீதே இருக்கிறது என்பதற்கும் வெளிப்படையாக பதில் சொன்னவர். சினிமா என்பது பெரியதொரு ஜனநாயகம் என அடிக்கடி சொல்லிவருபவர். மற்ற மதங்களை விமர்சனம் செய்ய அந்தந்த மதங்களிலிருந்து கலைஞர்கள் வரட்டும். நீ ஏன் ஒரு மதத்தைப் பற்றியே விமர்சனம் செய்கிறாய் என ஒரு கலைஞனை கேள்வி கேட்பது ஒவ்வொருவரின் சுதந்திரம். ஆனால் அது ஒரு அடக்குமுறையின் வெளிப்பாடு. நம்மை நாமே பட்டை தீட்ட தீட்டவே நாம் இன்னும் பொலிவடைய முடியும். அப்போதுதான் ஒரு சமூகம் வளர்ச்சிப் பாதையில் செல்வதாக அர்த்தம். தமிழ்நாட்டில் இருக்கும் மத, சாதி அரசியலுக்கு இடையில் அவரால் ஒரு தேவர் மகன் முதல் விஸ்வரூபம் வரை படைக்க முயல்கிறதென்ரால் அதுவே அவரது சாதனை.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsMl8rJ1HE0
இதுபோல ஒரு ஏமாற்றுவேலையை, கபடத்தை வெளிச்சம் போட்டுக் காட்டினால் உடனே ' ஏன் என்னோட மதத்தை மட்டும் விமர்சிக்கிற, அடுத்தவர்கள் மதத்தை விமர்சிக்க வேண்டியதுதானே?" என ஆதங்கப் படுவதில் அர்த்தமே இல்லை. ஒருவர் தன்னோட மதத்திற்கு உண்மையான விசுவாசியாக இருந்தால் இதுபோன்ற கடவுள், மதப் பெயரால் நடக்கும் ஏமாற்றுவேலைகளை படம்பிடித்துக் காட்டும் எந்தவொரு கலைஞரையும் மனம் திறந்து பாராட்டுவார். எப்படிவேணாலும் சினிமாவில் சம்பாரித்தே ஆகணும் என்ற வணிக சூழ்நிலையில் இதுபோன்ற அக்ரமங்க்களை ஒருவித சமூக அக்கறையோடு தனது படங்களில் தொடர்ந்து விமர்சனம் செய்துவரும் கமலை எப்படி வேணாலும் பாராட்டலாம்.
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Originally Posted by Unmai Vilambi
UV - the logic is very straightforward:
the Judeo-christian abrahamic religions are monotheistic - judaism is an exception in the sense that most jews are either agnostic or atheistic progressive - given their monotheistic nature, there is an element of absolutist foundation to those doctrines - either us or nothing else.
OTOH, the word Hinduism was attributed to a collection of various belief systems prevalent on the other side of the Sindh river - dvaitam, advaitam,vedantam, jainism, buddhism (and its derivatives in china and elsewhere) came from a polytheistic culture constantly evolving.
A polytheistic culture (despite its inherent flaws as can be seen in our society) would have no problem in accepting yet another version of the supreme/supernatural - but a monotheistic tradition can never accept a polytheistic culture coz its a classic case of "vachha kudumi serachha motttai" "naan pudhiccha muyalukku naappathu kaal" etc!
thats WHY both Islam and Christianity have had problems throughout history either with each other or with others - Christopher Hitchens's "God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything" is a brilliant take on this issue - the historical facts Hitchens presents are mind-boggling (sample this: while the Nazis several of whom owed allegiance to the catholic church were on a murderous rampage, the Catholic church expelled one of them, Joseph Goebbels - guess for what ? for marrying a divorced protestant, not for being a Nazi! they did and do have their standards, don't they ?).
however, inspite of such things, Christianity has constantly been in conflict with modern science and humanistic values (beginning with the likes of philosopher/intellectuals such as Lucretius, Spinoza etc) and has been reforming itself - Islam has been an island for long and the likes of ISIS, al qaeda, al nusra, al shabbaab, boko haraam, janjaweed, and many other groups keep coming out of its outdated doctrines - thats coz of lack of reformation.
having said that, the former cannot rid itself of the culture of proselytization - particularly, the modern evangelical 'born again' groups that have their origins in the USA - some of the things these people do are ridiculous to the extreme (faith based demonstration handling poisonous snakes in the belief that the poison won't hurt them ! quite a few have died bitten by rattlesnakes and vipers; vicious indoctrination of small children with threat of hell, denial of scientific evidence for evolution, biblical literalism etc - if you ever get a chance to visit a pentecostal meeting, you will be guaranteed some outrageous entertainment - I have seen ppl performing break dances (a la Senthil/Goundamani) when the 'spirit' comes over them - seriously !) - it is jokers like these, who are funneling money into the Joshua project et al !
Islam OTOH begs to be recognized for its uniqueness and ultimate superiority - the salafists, wahabbis et al are rich from head to toe and are pumping this money into groups like Hamas, and others in Pakistan, while the other side, the shias are pumping money into groups like hezbollah etc. The danger lies in even educated men/women choosing NOT to critically question their own beliefs.
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Originally Posted by venkkiram
100% agreed - but the problem is even if one movie is made showing a pastor screwing small children or the stupid faith healing sessions, there will be an outcry of 'persecution and offending our sentiments' !
^^ irir :clap: