Not needed, i guess. Becos, U staying here will allow you see and acknowledge that we are NOT like what you say! Of course, it will take its own sweet time, depending on the GigaHertz of ones brainQuote:
Originally Posted by genesis
Not needed, i guess. Becos, U staying here will allow you see and acknowledge that we are NOT like what you say! Of course, it will take its own sweet time, depending on the GigaHertz of ones brainQuote:
Originally Posted by genesis
Brando not arrogantA? :shock:Quote:
Originally Posted by genesis
Namma Hollywood expert Groucho should elaborate.
Brando would accept the movie, assess if the director is worthy enough to cooperate with and I he didn't think so, would make life hell for him in the sets.
'difficult to work with'nu 'polite-A' sonnEn.
P_R, I am not expert, but I know a little bit about Brando. The man is probably the most arrogant pr*** ever worked in Hollywood (Mutiny on the bounty director-a literally kazhutta pudichu set veliya ettinAr)...and yet he was still hailed as genious and continued to work on important projects until he got fat and lazy...nay obese and just didn't care about his career.
வேடிக்கை என்னன்னா, இங்க பலருக்கு (நான் உட்பட) பாரதியை விட ராஜாவையே நல்லா தெரியும். (பாரதி யாருன்னு எல்லாருக்கும் தெரியும், எவ்வளோ நல்ல தெரியும்ங்கறது தான் கேள்வி.) Familiarity breeds contempt 'ங்கற மாதிரி, ராஜா மேல ஏதோ கடுப்பு, அதை நிறுவ பாரதி ஒரு மகான்-ங்கற பொதுவான கற்பிதத்தை அப்படியே உள்வாங்கிக்கிட்டுப் பேசறாங்க. இதுல பிராண்டோ வேறயா!
P_R and groucho - From what I read in Wiki it does not look like Brando was professionally arrogant, but as a person. I do not know much about MB, so I have to refrain.Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
Now wiki-ing -- Ilaiyaraaja.
AvingaLai ellAm complain mAdhiri 'appadiyE saapidalaam'nu rasikkiReengaLE...indha manusanukkum pArththu edhunA seyngannu solREn. Thasaal.
அப்புறம் ஏன்யா அவரோட இவரை compare பண்றீங்க?Quote:
Originally Posted by equanimus
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by equanimus
That page is in total HCIRF control!! waste of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by equanimus
கர்த்தரே கர்த்தரே!Quote:
Originally Posted by genesis
பாரதியை உள்ள கொண்டுவந்தது நேனு. via ஹாசர்.
அதே postல ராஜா சிலபல வேளைகள்ல பேசுறது எனக்கு cringe effectனு சொல்லியிருக்கேன்.
இப்படி அணுகி பார்த்து புரிஞ்சிக்கலாமோன்னு muse பண்ணேன். அவ்வளவு தான்.
இப்படிக்கொரு SCIRF.
நான் பண்ணலைங்க. ஆனா தெரிஞ்சவங்க அவர் பெயரை (இவரைப் பத்திப் பேசும்போது) எடுத்தா நீங்க ஏங்க கொதிக்கிறீங்க? சரி, if you really differ with them on this specific aspect (arrogance, etc.), எப்படின்னு சரியா விளக்கலாமே?Quote:
Originally Posted by genesis
Ha ha, exactly! கவுண்டமணி-சாப்ளினுக்கு எங்க சுத்தி வந்தாலும் எப்படி ஒரே தொடக்கப்புள்ளியோ, அது மாதிரி இங்க கமலஹாசன்.Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R
:rotfl: I apologize for continuing the frivolity but I just imagined Raaja attending one!Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R
V_S,
The first round victory goes to genesis. As Plum had pointed out, the whole point is to get someone write like what you did. Then he can go to town saying, "Daddy, all IR fans are beating me up. All IR fans are beating me up. I have been thoroughly misrepresented. They will ban me." Since guys like me have been around for some time, we know this is the standard technique. Just observe when I asked him to give some facts on MSV's output, there was radio silence but he came back to give some generic advice later. That is the strategy. Don't worry about facts, when challenged on facts keep quite or say my words were twisted, then make some deliberately provocative comment. Sit back, relax and look out for someone to say something against it. Pounce on it with alacrity. Just compare the speed of response for such posts and the radio silence when asked for facts and you will understand.
So, as P_R said, cool down. The whole idea is to heat you up. You cannot defend it by getting angry. You need to maintain your cool and answer or just ignore.
equa,
Absolutely ROFL just imagining it.
No clue whats happening here! cant relate to it at all. But guys, any update on release of NEPV audio. Was it not supposed to be on July 1st, which is hardly 6 days away?
OK, a request on my behalf and on Kamal's behalf. Can the moderators shift the 'arrogance', 'Bharathi comparison','please ban me' posts into the generic thread of Raja so that we continue discussing about NEVP here. As Kamal said earlier, people are coming here thinking there is some update but find a totally different kind of debate here.
So let us also move out from here to the other thread and continue discussing there. Thanks for the understanding.
Kamal,
Hearing very conflicting reports. Everyone and sundry said that the deal with Sony was done. Today I saw a tweet from Kamesh Ratnam saying that GVM is yet to sign the deal. Given this confusion, 1st July looks highly unlikely. The twitter account of NEVP kept sending some generic stuff which provoked our Araving Mano to ask them to shut up. Not sure if they did since I don't follow that account.
:yes: You spoke my words :)Quote:
Originally Posted by equanimus
IngE bharathi-vachu IR-i mattam thatti pesura ellorum, evvalavu thooram bharathi-ya padichu iruppanga :lol2: sivappa irukkuravan poi solla maattan-ra logic la thaan ivargal pesugiraargal.
Appuram vazhgaiyula niraiya neerangal raajavunda selvittu (comparatively 1% neram selavazhichu iruppangalA Bharathikku?) ippo mattam thatturathu raajavukku seigira throgam.
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by v_s
adappaavigala... oru pinju manasa ippidi pinja manasaa aakittIngale!
ivara ippidi "thirumba thirumba pesara nee... thirumba thirumba pesara nee...thirumba thirumba...." rangeku polamba vechchadhukku, sabaass :clap:
gosh, it must be extremely difficult being raaja!
IR: enna vaazhka da idhu...
Kamesh Bavaratnam @kameshratnamQuote:
Originally Posted by aakarsh
Sorry guys GVM has not yet signed the agreement with sony and it will take more time
They said 1st week of JUly 2012. Now they have become SILENT :)
audio company has no idea to release audio on july 1st, 2012. meeting them this week
Nope! He has been seeing various oppns right from the 80s where he went to prime. That , Dog sound and bagavathar sound are same, and much more things. Also the caste thing. Mostly there is no mistakes in his side.Quote:
Originally Posted by KV
But he is very clear and clever in one principle that he followes Vadivel Stratgey long before "Annan pesinaa one way, return varappdaathu!" So he is happily telling things and just moving on. He knows that all of the ppl won't take effort to understand his thoughts, and will just blame, onlooking the surface and mis-understanding!
Again bringing Kamal Haasan :lol: he said very clearly, Avaroda Thannambikkaiyai Thimir enru thappaa purinjikittavanga nerayaa pEr.
Luckily both Kamal and Raja travel in one way. So they are personally very happy and never worry about the useless controversy made by ppl. But we tend to reply and end up in vain and pain, no gain. Have we in this forum, able to convince and make them agree our opinion to atleast person?!?! No, right?!
Its Upper Class man, let some ppl lie down, unable to climb up. Only Great minds agree, not Goat minds.
Yerkananave audio rights vithuttadhaa sonnanga?Quote:
Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
idhulaam romba overa illa...Quote:
Originally Posted by KV
yaaro orutthar renduperu avara kuttham solradha vechu oorae avaroda vaazhkkaya naragam aakkiduchu'nra rangeku kondu poitteenga...
imo, he doesn cares... he knows, pesaravan pesittu dhaan iruppaan.
Suresh ji,
He has been doing this for years, not just in this thread. I happened to look back into the sticky thread by Mr. Manisekaran, 'Rajanna Rajathan'. I believe he was main reason for Mr. Manisekaran's exit. He has been spamming many IR threads here for the past 8 years. Recently in SPB-IR thread, he has been doing this for more than an year by showing his hatred towards IR, MV and many others. Now it started with MSV sir's comparison where we explained all the facts, where he was repeatedly frustrating us and now shifted everything and started a new topic on IR arrogance, this time not in his talks, but in his works.
He has so many things like this in his pocket. My single question, if he hates IR and his music so much, what is the need to say this for the past 8 years and still reside in this thread, instead he can listen to whatever he likes and contribute in other forums like ARR forums. But why is he unnecessarily disturbing us. There can be posts saying they don't like his music and move on, but for the past 8 years, the same thing? Most of all in these 8 years by various discussions and analyses, he should have atleast by now have tried to see others perspectives, on what they are saying. Simply hate, hate and more hate. I have not even seen anything like this, even for real IR haters.
I think we have to take some action, else I am signing off. I am pretty serious. Very sorry to say this.
v_sji, manadhil urudhi vendum! open forumnu aagi pOchu, wide range of views varaththaan seyyin. thodarattum ungal thondu! manasa thalara vidaadheenga. :thumbsup:
genesis, all this might again give you the impression that you're being ganged upon here. All that I can say is this - if you (or any of us here) have the right to criticize IR, then you must also be open to criticism of your criticism. idhukku neenga offend aagi kuyyo murayO nu saththam pOtta, velaikku aavaadhu. ambududhE'ppu.
skv, ss... avaru experience pannaadhadha? adhellaam puriyudhu. I was just imagining how it'd be to be Raaja in forums like ours. Just for a moment, imagine that he's a member here (or in any of the other social n/w sites). To be at the receiving end of the truckloads of free advice and counselling from all and sundry must be a pain in the wrong places, no?
ulagaththa nenachchEn, sirichchEn.
Surprisingly the below told by none other than our genesis
butQuote:
Originally Posted by genesis
Mudivaa enna solreenga genesisQuote:
Originally Posted by genesis
kv,
indha forumla avarapatthi enna ellaam pesaraanga, enna advicelaam panranganu paatthu, avar pain edutthuppaarunu solringalaa?
^^ as a try by giving water on fire, but kamal angle-la marupadi aarambichudaama irukkattum :sigh2:
ada, oru manusan, adhuvum periyavaru, oru naal padathukku music pannavara paaththu, facetoface-aa ninnu nammellaam advice panna, avarukku eppidi irukkum?Quote:
Originally Posted by SoftSword
pain eduppaara illaya ellaam next level, vera panjayathu.
aana just the thought that all of us kuppans-suppans can afford to give him music and moralscience lessons directly here (assuming he's a member) - idhu avarukku eppidi irukkumnu ungalluku thOnudhu?
assuming he is a member - rejetted...
he is in a different level... padaikkiravan maela irukkanu solraangalae... andha madhiri namakku aduttha level'nu vechukkonga...
if he thinks like a fellow human and feels the same pain/happines as we people do here, then he cant make music of the highest level...
idhu avarukku eppidi irukkumnu ungalluku thOnudhu? - adhaan already soltaenae... he doesn care... he knows, solravan aayiram solvaan... namma seyya vendiya kadamaya naama seivom..
idhaththaanga inga irukka pala pEru pala murai solli irukkaanga. irundhaalum avara oru saraasari manusanaa paakkura pazhakkam inga sila pErukku undu (appidi yOschu paathu thaan avarOda plight eppidi irukkumnu sonnEn). adhunaala dhaan thagaraaru, vettukuththu, vazhippari, karpazhippu ellaam. gangs of raajapuram.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoftSword
ippo enna aagippOchchu?
silapala pEchchugaL kEkkumbOdhu cringe aagaththAn seyvOm. athi normal dhaanE.
adhu sollalaam dhaanE.
"MSV aNNA....avar oruthar dhaan aNNA, michavanga ellAm thambi dhaan"
Even if you feel that way, don't say so - 'ngradhu dhaan ennOda koLgai.
I don't have much of an opinion abouot people who say they hate hypocrisy. They simply don't understand its social function.
Indha 'brutally frank'-aa irukkEnaakkum 'ndravangaLai enakku podhuvA pudikkAdhu.
ippadiyE vaLarndhutta dhaala silanEram IR pEsuradhai kEkkumbOdhu cringe aagaththAnE seyyin.
Many of you feel don't impose normal standards on someone like IR. Fair enough.
Some others feel rule of law, applies to all. idhuvum Fair enough.
vazhakkam pOla agree to disagree-nu kai kulukkikittu pOga vENdiyadhu dhaanE.
yaen ellaamae fair'a irukkanumnu nenakkireenga...
pala karutthukkal, brown'aa dhaan irukkum...
V_S,
As I said 'freeya vidunga'. As KV said, this is an open forum. Lovers and haters of Raja will be around and will express their views. Not only genesis but there are a couple of others who always do the 'vazhapazhathil oosi ethum' velai. People like genesis being here and you leaving would be very harmful for people like us. The only way out here is for us to keep highlighting without losing our patience. We must learn that from genesis. After all whatever anyone says he keeps saying the same thing. So the only weapon against such slander is to keep on posting positively about Raja and his works. So don't even think of going away. This forum is mainly for people like you, app_eng etc. You are the guys who provide the positive energy. There will always be some negative energy but we must know how to deal with it or ignore it and move on.
Unga sandaila naan koduththa nooru roopaiya marandhuraatheenga :)
btw.., there is no date confirmation from Gowtham's camp on audio release..
athai sollalaam thaan. infact neenga ithumaathiri more than once sollittu thaane irukkeenga. Athunaala yaarukkum varuthamo kobamo varalaiye. Antha maathiri post pannaa, yaaru enna sollapporaanga. But trouble-makers, onnu avarai overaa mattam thatrathu, and on other hand, ithu Raja-Temple, anti-raja fans kku inge idamillai nnu ennamo inge naangellaam sernthu oru Bajanai Madam nadathuraapla nakkal panrathu. Ithellaam senjaa kovam varum thaane!Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R
The example i am quoting for many many times, "First, avar kitta mike ai koduthavan evan, avanai sollaNum" appadinnu many days b4 itself, inge solliyaachu, no one opposed. Athai sonnathu oru ardent fan thaan.
Ippo kooda recent aa, Kumudamla avar every week, oru fan oda kostin kku answer seivaarunnu post panninappo, Suresh65 enna sonnaaru, Rajavoda antha answerai padichittu, avan entha hospital la admit aavaanO nnu thaane sonnaaru?!? Ithellaam enga tharappu nermai illaiyaa?!?
Ithai vida eppdi irangi varaNum?!? Ithanaikkum Suresh65 yaaru, namakkellaam theriyum. Intha nermai avanga kitta irukkaa?!?
Ithukku munnaadi ellaaam, not this many times, we compared Raja with anybody. Also we mostly never talked about how the Mind of a Genius thinks, and at what level it operates. But ithai pesappoi thaan, silarukku pathikittu varuthu. Arrogance nnu pulambaraanga! They almost completely Reject Raja as a person, and expect we too to do the same. Mudiyumaa?!? Touble makers ithia purinjikkura varaikkum, there will be issues :(
Sanjeevi,
உங்களுக்கே தெரியும் அதுக்கெல்லாம் பதில் வராதுன்னு :)