mm. ok, raj! it's good to read .It is always good to take into account all contrary opinions. I shall. Thanks. :)Quote:
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mm. ok, raj! it's good to read .It is always good to take into account all contrary opinions. I shall. Thanks. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rajraj
¿ýÈ¢¸û ÀÄ Bis Mala
¯ò¾Ãõ ±ýÀÐ ¾Á¢Æ¢Öõ ¯ñÎ, «¨¾ ºÁü¸¢Õ¾õ ±ýÚ ºñ¨¼ìÌ ¦¸¡ïºô §À÷ ÅÕ¸¢ýÈ¡÷¸û. ¯ò¾Ãõ ±ýÈ ¦º¡øÄ¢ý ¾Á¢ú «Ê ÑÉ¢¸¨Ç ¦º¡ýÉ¡ø Á¢¸×õ ¯¾Å¢Â¡¸ þÕìÌõ. «Ð ±ùÅ¡Ú ¾Á¢Æ¢Ä¢ÕóÐ ºÁü¸¢Õ¾òÐìÌ º¨Áì¸ôÀ𼨾Ôõ «òмý þ¨½ò¾¡ø Á¢¸×õ ¿ýÚ.
¿ýÈ¢, À½¢×
¸ø ±ýÈ ¦º¡øÄ¢üÌ §ÅÚ §Å÷¸û ¯ñ¼¡? ¸ø ±ýÀÐ ÀÄ ¦À¡Õû ¾Õõ, ¸ø ±Ûõ ¦º¡øÄ¢ý ãÄõ ¾Õţá?
¿ýÈ¢, À½¢×
Ó¨ÈôÀÊ «¨Á¡¾ ¦º¡ü¸û,
þÆ¢ºÉ÷ ÅÆìÌ ( slang and usage of the uneducated etc),
¦ºöÔû ®ð¼ò¾¢üÌ ¯¾Å¡¾ «øÄÐ ¦¾¡ýÚ¦¾¡ðÎ ÒÄÅ÷¸Ç¡ø ÅÆí¸ô À¼¡¾ ¦º¡ü¸û,
¦¸¡î¨º ¦Á¡Æ¢
Åð¼¡Ã ÅÆìÌ
Ìè¯ìÌÈ¢,
þ¼ì¸÷î ¦º¡ü¸û
þôÀÊ ²ü¸ò ¾¸¡¾ ¦º¡ü¸û ±ýÚ ´Õ ¦ÀÕõ Àðʨħ ¾Á¢úô ÒÄÅ÷¸û ¨Åò¾¢Õó¾¡÷¸û.
¦¾ÖíÌ ¿¡ðÊø þ¼õ ¸¢¨¼ì¸¡¾ ¦Àñ ¾Á¢úôÀ¼ò¾¢ø ѨÆóÐ ¦À⠿ʨ¸ ¬ÉÐ §À¡ø, þíÌ ¾ûÙÀÊ ¦ºöÂô Àð¼¨Å ¸¢.À¢. 400 š츢ø ÓبÁ ¦ÀüÈ ºí¸¾¦Á¡Æ¢Â¢ø (skrt) ºì¨¸ §À¡Î §À¡ðÎ ¯Ââ ¿¢¨Ä¨Â ±ö¾¢Å¢ð¼É. ²Î ¦ÀÂ÷òÐ ±Ø¾¢ÂÅ÷¸û ÅÆ츢ø þøÄ¡¾ ºí¸¾î ¦º¡ü¸ÙìÌô À¾¢ø þò¾¨¸Â ¦º¡ü¸¨Çô ¦ÀöÐ ¦Á¡Æ¢¨Â §Áý¨Á ¦ºöШÅò¾É÷. À¢ýÒ «¨Å ¾Á¢Æ¢ø Ò¾¢Â ¾Ì¾¢Ô¼ý ѨÆó¾É. ¾Á¢úô ÒÄÅ÷¸Ùõ ²üÚ즸¡ñ¼É÷.
¦º¡ü¸Ù¨¼Â ãÄí¸¨Ç µÃ¢Õ ¿¡ð¸Ç¢ø ¦¾Ã¢Å¢ì¸¢§Èý.
//¸ø ±ýÈ ¦º¡øÄ¢üÌ §ÅÚ §Å÷¸û ¯ñ¼¡? ¸ø ±ýÀÐ ÀÄ ¦À¡Õû ¾Õõ, ¸ø ±Ûõ ¦º¡øÄ¢ý ãÄõ ¾Õţá?//
¦Á¡Æ¢»¡Â¢Ú §¾Å§¿ÂôÀ¡Å¡½÷ ¬ö§Å¡ð¼ò¨¾ì ¸ÅÉ¢ò¾¡ø, þÐ ´Õ Íð¼Êî ¦º¡ø ±ýÚ ¦¾Ç¢Å¡Ìõ.
¯ø > Ìø > ¸ø ±ýÚ §Å÷¡ø ÅÇ÷¸¨Çì ¸½¢ì¸Ä¡Ìõ. ¦º¡ü¸û Á¡È¢Â¨Áó¾Ð§À¡ø, ¸ÕòÐì¸Ùõ ´ýȢĢÕóÐ ´ýÚ §ÅÚÀðÎ ÅÇ÷¨¼óÐ ¦º¡ü¸Ùõ ¦À¡Õñ¨Á ¦ÀüÈÉ ±ýÀ¨¾ «Å÷ Å¢Ç츢ÔûÇ¡÷.
Ìø > Ìñ > ÌñÎ = ¸ÉÁ¡ÉÐ.
Ìø > ¸ø = ¸ÉÁ¡ÉÐ.
Ìø > Ìý > ÌýÚ = ¸ÉÁ¡É Áñ «øÄÐ ¸øÄ¢ý ¾¢Ãðº¢.
¸ø ±ýÀ¾ý «Êô¦À¡Õû ¾¢Ãðº¢. «¾ý ÅÇ÷ô¦À¡Õû ¸ÉÁ¡ÉÐ, ¸ÊÉÁ¡ÉÐ ±ýÀÐ.
¸ø ±ýÀÐ ¾Á¢ú¡ø. ¸øÌÄŠ ±ýÈ þÄò¾£ý ¦Á¡Æ¢î ¦º¡øÖõ ¸øÌÖìÌ ±ýÈ ¦¾¡¼Ã¢É¢ýÚ Åó¾Ð ±ýÀ¨¾ «¸Ã¡¾¢ò ¦¾¡ÌôÀ¡Ç÷ (lexicographer) ¿¡.º¢. ¸ó¨¾Â¡ À¢û¨Ç Å¢Ç츢ÔûÇ¡÷.
¸ø (Å¢¨É¡ø) - ¸üÚ즸¡û ±ýÛõ ¦À¡ÕÇ¢Öõ ¸ø (¦ÀÂ÷¡ø) stone etc ±ýÛõ ¦À¡ÕÇ¢Öõ ¬ÇôÀθ¢ÈÐ. À¢È ¦À¡Õû¸Ùõ ¯ûÇÉ. þÅüÚû ÌÈ¢ôÀ¢¼ò ¾Ìó¾Ð: ¸øÖ¾ø - §¾¡ñξø ±ýÀ¾¡õ.
§ÁüÜÈ¢ÂÅüÚû ²Ðõ ³Âõ þÕó¾¡ø ±ØÐí¸û.
Thanks for asking. Will revert to continue. vaNakkam.
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Mr Neduncheziyan
//¯ò¾Ãõ ±ýÀÐ ¾Á¢Æ¢Öõ ¯ñÎ, «¨¾ ºÁü¸¢Õ¾õ ±ýÚ ºñ¨¼ìÌ ¦¸¡ïºô §À÷ ÅÕ¸¢ýÈ¡÷¸û. ¯ò¾Ãõ ±ýÈ ¦º¡øÄ¢ý ¾Á¢ú «Ê ÑÉ¢¸¨Ç ¦º¡ýÉ¡ø Á¢¸×õ ¯¾Å¢Â¡¸ þÕìÌõ. «Ð ±ùÅ¡Ú ¾Á¢Æ¢Ä¢ÕóÐ ºÁü¸¢Õ¾òÐìÌ º¨Áì¸ôÀ𼨾Ôõ «òмý þ¨½ò¾¡ø Á¢¸×õ ¿ýÚ.//
ºí¸¾¦Á¡Æ¢Â¢ø skrt ¯ ±ýÀÐ ¯ûÇÐ. þ¾üÌô ÀÄ ¦À¡Õû ¯ûÇÉ ±ýÈ¡Öõ, ÍÕì¸Á¡¸ : "this very person [your worshipper] invokes you &c." ÁüÚõ also , further ; on the other hand ±ýÚ ¦À¡ÕûÀΞ¡¸ì ÜÈÄ¡õ. þÕìÌ §Å¾ò¾¢ø: [RV. ii , 20 , 4] , him I praise , Indra , him I sing) ±ýÚ ÅÕÁ¢¼í¸Ç¢ø þ¡ø ÅÕ¸¢ÈÐ. ¬É¡ø «Ð ÓØÅÐõ ÓýÉ¢¨Äô ¦À¡ÕÇ¢ø ¾Á¢Æ¢ø ¯ûÇЧÀ¡ø þø¨Ä.
¾Ã(õ) ±ýÀÐ ºí¸¾¦Á¡Æ¢Â¢ø surpassing , conquering ; excelling , crossing , passage RV. ii , 13 , 12 ; viii , 96 , 1 Mn. viii , 404 and 407 Ya1jn5. (ifc.) ÁüÚõ impassable, excelling , ±ýÈ ¦À¡ÕÇ¢ø ÅÕ¸¢ýÈÐ.
uttar (as in uttar predesh,) u +tar ±ýÚ ¾É¢Â¡¸ô À¢Ã¢ò¾¡ø ¦À¡ÕÇ¢ø¨Ä.
¯ò¾Ãõ ±ýÈ ¾Á¢ú¡ø ¯ ±ýÛõ ÓýÉ¢¨Äî Íð¼Ê¡¸ô À¢Èó¾ ¦º¡ø ¬Ìõ.
¯óÐ > ¯òÐ > ¯ò¾Ãõ (¯òÐ+ «÷ +«õ). þó¾ô¦À¡ÕÇ¢ø §ÁÖûǨ¾ ¯ó¾¢ò ¾¡í¸¢ì¦¸¡ñÊÕôÀÐ ±ýÚ ¦À¡Õû.
compare: º¢óÐ > º¢ó¨¾, º¢ó¾¢, º¢ó¾¨É.
º¢óÐ > º¢òÐ > º¢ò¾÷.
¯óоġÅÐ, Óý¦ºøÖ¾ø, §Áü¦ºøÖ¾ø ӾĢÂÉ. Óý ¿¢üÀÅÉ¢ý ¦À¡Õ¨Ç "¯ý ¦À¡Õû" ±ý¸¢§È¡õ. "¯ý" ±ýÀÐõ ÓýÉ¢¨Äô¦À¡ÕÇ¡Ìõ.
¯ + ¾Ã× = ¯ò¾Ã× = Óý ¾ÕÅÐ. ¬¨½. given by superior before you can act on it.
¯ + ¾Ãõ = that which presents itself before or as prior or afterwards.' height, response, north,
¯ + Ð = ¯Ð (compare: «+Ð, þ+Ð).
In Tamil. the words are connected to "¯". In Sanskrit it (u) is not clearly showing the concept of "front", "up" distinctly. Therefore it is clear it is a Tamil word.
If you have any further things to ask on this word, pl do not hesitate.
Best regards vaNakkam.
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ÁýÉ¢ì¸×õ, «Ð ÀüÈ¢ ¡ý «È¢§Âý.
¾í¸û Å¢Çì¸òÐìÌô À½¢Å¡É ¿ýÈ¢¸û.
Žì¸õ
nivR ±ýÈ Å¼¦º¡øÖìÌ Â¡Ð ¦À¡Õû ±ýÚ ¸¡ñ§À¡õ.
to turn back , stop RV. ; to turn away , retreat , abstain or desist from , get rid of ; to fall back , rebound R. ; cease , end , to be withheld from , to turn downwards , let sink (the head) ; to turn back i.e. shorten (the hair) ; to lead or bring back , reconduct , return AV. ; to turn away , avert or keep back from to give up , abandon , suppress , with, to restrain , curb , check , suppress , restrict
§ÁüÌÈ¢ôÀ¢ð¼ ¦º¡ø, ¾Á¢ú : ¿¢ø > ¿¢Ú > ¿¢ÚòÐ ±ýÈ ¦º¡ø ¦¸¡ÊÅƢ¢ĢÕóÐ «¨Áì¸ôÀð¼ ¦º¡ø ¬Ìõ. þ¾üÌ §ÁÖõ Å¢Çì¸õ §¾¨ÅôÀ¼¡Ð ±ýÚ ¿¢¨É츢ý§Èý.
¿¢Ú (¿¢Ú¨Å ¦ºö) ±ýÀÐ, ¯ñ¨Á¢ø Ðġ째¡Ä¢ý ÁÚÒÈõ ¿¢ü¸î ¦ºöÐ À¡÷ôÀÐ ±ýÀÐ ¦À¡Õû. ¿¢ø ±ýÈ «Ê¢ĢÕóÐ ¿¢Ú ±ýÈ ¦º¡ø À¢È츢ÈÐ.
ÀÄ ¦º¡ü¸¨Ç ´ôÀ¢ðÎ þõÁ¡üÈí¸¨Ç «È¢Â§ÅñÎõ.
ºÃ¢ ´Õ ±ÎòÐ측ðÎÁðÎõ ¾Õ¸¢§Èý
¿ø > ¿Ú. (¿Ú Á½õ: ¿øÄ Á½õ). «¨¾ô§À¡ø¾¡ý ¿¢ø > ¿¢Ú ±ýÀÐõ. ¬É¡ø, ¿¢Ú ±ýÀ¾¢ø ¿¢ø ±ýÈ ¦º¡øÄ¢ý ãÄô¦À¡Õû Á¨ÈóÐ ¿¢ü¸¢ÈÐ. ¬É¡ø ¿¢ÚòÐ ±ýÛõ§À¡Ð, Á¨Èó¾¢Õó¾ ¦À¡Õû Á£ñÎõ ¦¾Ç¢Å¡¸¢ÈÐ.
¿¢Ú ±ýÈ ¦º¡øĢɢýÚ À¢Èó¾ ż¦Á¡Æ¢ ÅÊÅõ¾¡ý nivR ±ýÀÐ.
Dear Mala,
when I look at your avatar, I indeed do because you have minimized it to all it counts, I am set back to 1978, about 13 or 14, riding on bicycle after the school girls singing nadai annai peedu, idai minnal koodu - could have been by SP Balasubramaniyam. :lol:
You changed it because of pooja shankar?
Hi! I liked it: ladies should be trim and fit. Must exercise everyday. This is the message I get from the avatar. In your case, it has brought you back to 1978!! Effective in more than one way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saya Setju
Well, received a message from God that it's good time to give it up. Cannot ignore God,,,,,Quote:
Originally Posted by Saya Setju