These two plus Vizhiyile Malarnthathu shares similar tabla, that pulsating thick sound. Nice going app, I listen to the SPB song more than any others in Meendum Kokkila.
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:lol: Suresh!
App, Grouch, more than the rhythm pattern (table beat, etc), its the way the tune is laid out, which gives it that jive... oru poovanathula <break> suham kulukulunguthu <break> vandu then kudikuthu <break>.... Not that its something that hasn't been done before, but this pattern (er.. staccato?) in combination with the tabla works beautifully.
App, gap vidaama adikkareenga! Hey orayiram was another Chennai vaanoli discovery for me. Borrowing baroque's terminology... loverboy SPB dhaan! What a pleasant experience it is to listen to him along with the magic that IR weaves around his voice.
Veering a bit off topic, one thing that caught my attention in App’s post was the word ‘Gokila’. For someone like me who has lived all his life outside TN, it’s a bit amusing to see letters getting inter-changed this way. I understand that Thamizh grammar has this concept of shared letters, but when this goes beyond writing in Thamizh, into instances while speaking the language or while writing in it English, it becomes a bit funny. Kokila to kogila/gokila/gogila, Gopal to Kobal, COBOL to GOBOL, pump to pambu, tank to tang, One classic case which triggered a debate with my friend was Thalabadhi & Dhalapathi, which my gulty friend insists, (latter) is the right way to pronounce and that I was inverting all the sounds/letters the tamilian way!
Is this pazhakka dosham so arduous to overcome, even for someone like App who enjoys his share of Indhi cinema?
In the Same film (Meendum Kokila) the humming done by SPB+SJ and the Flute/Mirudungam (or was it tabla) intro by IR in "Radha radha nee engE" is simply :thumbsup:
Simble, kOfi mAdhiri this is our quirk :)
Btw, I know guys who do a gokul search when they want to search the net
may not be golden era songs but the song is gold
pUnkuyil rendu onnula onna - veetla vishesanga
Good catch on 'pOttu vaiththa kAdhal thittam OK kaNmaNi' - interludes appear to be ditto.
OTOH, 'thaththOm thalAngu thaththOm' has only repeat phrases thru out (even prelude & postlude have the same phrases) but the interludes are not total ditto.
அட இது என்ன பிரமாதம் - gap இல்லாம ஒருத்தர் பாட்டுப்போட்டுத்தள்ளி இருக்கார் பாருங்க
Interestingly, this prolificity was not even much talked about those days - only now we talk much about it
Ofcourse App, avar endhiran range ku onnu maathi onnu compose panni thallitaaru. Namma ellarum adha onnonna kodanjittrikom!
And its Kokila I think (that's how Kannadigas pronounce it here). Its that koel-like looking bird I think (they could be the same; not very adept at this kinda bird-watching :wink:)
There's also a song in one of Vijay's movie (ATM i think)... kokilam kokilam.
Folks
There was a song by SPB called " O O hari raama O O hari krishna onna renna aasi ulagathil krishna ..... vaaliba vesham neer melE kumizhigalagum ipOthe rasika vendum odOdi vangada" sort of song, one would sing when they are drunk ! :lol2: does any one know any details about this song!
AFAIK, I heard this song back in early 90's , I feel the MD could have been Adithyan :roll:
I am caught up with the way charanam is structured..
one elongated structure to enunciate the intrinsic melody of the raaga, then sudden movement into faster pace as if to compensate for the time spent on emphasizing the melody of beauty.
If one has been on excursions to scenic places, they can feel the splendour of nature capturing them for a long while, then sudden awakening to the darn thing called "time" happens and they start jostling to cover the lost ground spent in a timeless vacuum admiring the natural beauty. This aspect is nicely reflected by the talented lyricist who writes..
"மஞ்சள் வெயில் மாலை சூட பட்டு வண்ண ஆடை சூட ......
நேரம் வந்ததடி ..."
Absolutely beautiful -
when i was young (correction - when i was a kid) - used to fill the bucket with water from the tap but not allowing to fill by itself, had the habit of placing the mug in the bottom of the bucket.
I had immense satisfaction watching the water gushing down and filling the mug and with wonder used to see the fabulous bubbles of water gush out as if it were a bull held back for a long time to be let loose on an arena.. This phase in the charanam of this song poovanathula always evoked that imagery in me.. The sleight of hand is not just in putting tunes to words, but in arranging the sequence of notes to create such an imagery in a listener's minds and that is where Raaja scores..Awesome song and awesome writeup by everyone..
Kokila - koel - cuckoo - kuyil - kumble
The last bit, only Bala Karthik can explain
WOW, awesome imagery, jaiganes!
KV & Plum,
Thanks for the language edu. So, it's kOk-uy-ilA :-)
Avadi, no wonder. After neRRikaNN, he religiously applied the Golden rule - sons are trouble. In real life and reel life
App anna
Come on Eagerly waiting for your views on "Radha Radha nee engE" :)
Jai, lovely imagery; poetic and profound writing. :clap:
#63 ராதா ராதா நீ எங்கே?
கண்ணன் எங்கே நான் அங்கே!
(மீண்டும் கோகிலா, 1981 , ஜானகியுடன்)
When Sujatha wrote about some details of filming Vikram, he mentioned Kamal's irritation in not getting what he wanted. "நொறுக்கறதுக்கு மாருதி கேட்டா டால்ஃபின் தான் கொடுக்குறாங்க" (Some may remember that Dolphin 2 door car that was considered "poor-man's-maruthi" in 80's).
That statement kind of summarizes Kamal's history in TF :-( A similar case in the 80's take of (i.e. portions of) silappathikAram too. Kamal wanted (which was in news continuously) Gemini's daughter - the one gossipped to have got wedded in Tirupati to AB, north indies confirm whether it happened. Instead all that the producers could get (to do the mAdhavi role) was Unni Mary. I've not seen the movie and so don't know the story, just hearsay and also the title suggests "meeNdum" kaNNaki.
Don't know which girl was featured in this sweet number on screen - was it chEra nAttuppeN or kuzhandhai natchaththiram?
What starts with a sweet vocal harmony between SPB-SJ, my top pair, gets instrumental ornamentation of high class levels. Not a "running" melody but a stop-and-walk-kind IMO. Enjoyed the arrangements of this song more those days but now can appreciate the beauty in the melody. Actually even made fun of the pallavi (i.e. internally to myself) as 'what is this prose order thingy' but thEththified telling 'saraNam is great' :oops: Untrained ears :-)
This movie was continuously in gossip columns - Sridevi couldn't do madisAr and the costume guy made 'madisAr pant' which she simply mAttified like a pant etc. BO was average I think but songs were big hits and regulars on radio :-)
App in full form ..:) Gr8 going ..
Jai,
Amazing imagination and wonderful perspective on Poo Vanathil song. You have given a whole new dimension to the song. You have to write frequently, why are you not?:(
புல்லரிப்பு! மும்பை மாநகர 28 வது மாடியில் கடலும், மழை மேகமும், ராஜ இசையும்! வேலை செய்யலாம் என்ற அத்தனை எண்ணங்களையும் நிர்மூலமாக்கி, நினைவலைகளின் மெல்லிய தாலாட்டிலே, மீண்டும் பள்ளி நாட்களுக்கு பின்னோக்கி சென்று எந்நாளும் மறவா கானமழையில் நனைந்து கடந்த 4 மணி நேரங்களை ஒரு வித பரவசத்துடன் அணு அணுவாய் அனுபவித்து வருகிறேன். A E உங்களுக்கு கோடி வந்தனம்! மற்றும் சுரேஷ்(65), plum , groucho , VS , ஜெய், ஏனைய பல நண்பர்களின் சிறப்பான பங்களிப்புடன் இந்த திரி ஒரு மகா சுகானுபவம். இத்தனை சந்தோஷங்களை நமக்களித்த ராஜாவுக்கும் பாலுவுக்கும், அதை இங்ஙனம் ரசித்து, பகிர்ந்து, கொண்டாடி மகிழ்ந்து திளைக்கும் நம்மனைவருக்கும் சேர்த்து உங்கள் சார்பாக சில பல single malt திரவங்களை காணிக்கையாக்குகிறேன்!
இன்னைக்கு வேலை காலி!
சுரேஷ்,
உங்கள் எழுது அருமை. நீங்கள் அடிக்கடி எழுதவேண்டும்.
நமக்கு மட்டும் அல்ல. genesis சொல்வது போல் ஆப் Bachchan வையே குஷி ஆக்குகிறார் :)
" உங்கள் சார்பாக சில பல single malt திரவங்களை காணிக்கையாக்குகிறேன்!"
அடப்பாவி எங்க பேர சொல்லி நீ மட்டயாகுரையக்கும். நல்லா நடத்துங்க. அடுத்த ரௌண்டுக்கு ஆப் வேறொரு பாட்டு போடுவார் :) cheers!!!
suresh,
:-)
Your feedback is definitely a "tonic" to write more :-)
suresh,
Welcome here! Yes this thread is in full throttle, thanks to App for his mighty experience and contributions. Everyone is enjoying this thread. Waiting to hear more from you!
ok, it's a friday and wanted to post a "clean" song to make genesis happy.
Unfortunately, the alphabetical order has brought a 'maRRa' pAttu :wink: Yesterday I told that it will be a 'classical / semi-classical'...well, it is...sort of...
#64 தீராத விளையாட்டுப் பிள்ளை
(நெற்றிக்கண், 1981 , குழுவினருடன்)
It was time for excitement for IR admirers when KB signed him up for his first kavidhAlayA production. Ofcourse, the director was SPM and not KB himself but then SPM was not averse to working with MSV (he did rANuva veeran in the same year with Rajini / MSV). Also pOkkiri rAjA for AVM in just about the same time period. So, it wasn't like SPM or Rajini insisted on IR but KB used the opportunity to sign up the current sensation :-) So, it was cheers to IR-admirers, conquest of new territory :wink:
We don't know whether there was any direct involvement of KB in the music making. However, one thing is sure that IR wanted to use the opportunity to show case his specialities. What a fantastic fusion album resulted!
Unlike the organic fusion in songs like 'poongathavE', this was - for lack of terms - inorganic. One can see both the seamlessness and distinctness in mAppiLLaikku mAman manasu & theerAtha viLaiyAttuppiLLai. (rAjA rANi jAckie was in a jazzy mode and rAmaNin mOhanam of "typical IR" genre)
I was following the news snippets in dailies / weeklies about this movie and when read about a song 'theerAtha viLaiyAttuppiLLai', thought it would be the traditional song with the same melody as 'thalai vAri poochchoodi unnai' (Shreya sings and dances in front of Sivaji and Vivek says how long Kannan alone keeps doing viLaiyAttu). I was expecting to see some IR style orchestration for that melody.
When the song came out, it was such a pleasant surprise to have a majestic new melody, terrific orchestration (the second interlude's violin is delectable). On top of these was SPB in cracking form!
A not-to-be-missed song! My college 1st year room mate, MSV fanatic, used to love this song and sing aloud - each time he'll start with the saraNam only. His voice still rings in my ears -'அவன் அசை உள்ள வரையில் விளையாடி' :lol2: