ancient language was Tamil
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ANCIENT LANGUAGE OF WHOLE OF INDIA WAS TAMIL F.S.Gandhi vandayar
PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:51 am
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Eminent historian Rajwade acknowledges that the original indigenous residents of India were the Naagas. They were expert in drawing pictures, they later turned Naaga vamsha into the Vedhic fold. He also acknowledges the presence of non-Sanskirt languages like Asur bhasha, Dravida bhasha, Chinese and Red Indian and African languages. [Rajwade V. K., bharatiya vivah sansthe cha itihas, marathi, p. 100]
‘Paishachi’ language was Tamil is the experts' view. Having made it clear that Paishachi language was a very rich language, and very widely spoken, let us see the experts' views on what was this language.
Before Sanskrit could influence things here, the language of India was "Paishachi", which meant Tamil, and it was spoken from Kashmir to Kanyakumari.
Nair observes: "According to Mr. Oldham there are ample evidences to show that the so-called "Paisachi" language was spoken throughout India.
He says "It is evident that the Sanskrit Grammarians considered the language of the Dravidian countries to be connected with the vernaculars of Northern India; and that in their opinion it was especially related to the speech of those who as we have seen, were apparently descended from the Asura tribes. Thus in the Shahasha Chandrika Lakshmidhara says that the ‘Paisachi’ language is spoken in the ‘Paisachi’ countries of Pandya, Kekaya Vahlika, Sahya, Nepala, Kuntala, Sudarsha, Bota, Gandhara, Haiva and Kangana and there are Paisachi countries. Of all the vernaculars the Paisachi is said to have contained the smallest infusion of Sanskrit". [Nair B. N., "The Dynamic Brahmin", p.70]
Dr. K. M. Panikar has something equally interesting to say; "The distribution of the indigenous races even today in the uplands of South Bihar and in the eastern areas of Madhya Pradesh and the persistence of the Bhils in the Aravalli and Vindhya ranges show that as a population momentum ceased to have any momentum after it reached the Gangetic valley. The gradual spread of Hinduism all over India and with the Vedhic speech should not blind us to the fact that even in North India outside the Punjab Tamil was there. In Gujrat and in Maharashtra the neo-Vedhic were able to improve their language but in the Deccan and in the South the Dravidian speech not only held its own but was able to drive out the Austric and other linguistic elements. The spread of Sanskrit, originally associated with Agastiyas' crossing of the Vindhyas became, an accomplished fact only in the first centuries of the Christian era as may be seen from the earlier Paisachi tamil tradition of the Satavahana Emperors of Pratishtan" [K. M. Panikker, Geographical Factors in Indian History, 1955, quoted by Nair B. N., "The Dynamic Brahmin", p.70]
IMPORTANT
Paisachi was Tamil- Nair confirms that Paishachi was Tamil. Not only the inscriptions, but even the classical Tamil literature of second or third century AD was not Sanskrit, but Tamil. The same author observes: "If we now consider the ancient Tamil works, we find in almost all some allusion to vedic rites and the use of some north words though very few. When Indo Aryan words are adopted in Tamil in Sangam literature they are more frequently borrowed form Prakrit forms or with Prakritic features. Surely Sanskrit and Prakrit cultures were known to some extent in Tamilanad but rather through Prakrit than through Sanskrit. Massive influence of Sanskrit in Tamil literature took place much later". [Dr. J. Filliozat on Tamil and Sanskrit in South India, in Tamil Culture, vol. IV, No. 4, Oct. 1955 quoted by Nair B. N., "The Dynamic Brahmin", p.71]
you hate the term Dravidian?
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Originally Posted by devapriya
Your Wishful Thinking and history revisionism is driven by your own indic ideology. SORRY //Sangam Tamil Song has been given as Proof.//
Proof of what?
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Originally Posted by devapriya
//Dravidian Artificial name given for a Linguistic Group, and no Race are people are connected with this.//
The term "Dravida" is found in Sans texts; you either do not know or pretend not to know. Tamil had been known as "Dravida Basha" and this usage is alive up to now. when priests formally introduce Tamil devotional or thirumuRai songs. A term found in Sans is branded as "artificial" by you; this is a clear admission on your part that Sans forges and uses artificial terms such as "Dravida". The Tamils are not responsible for the artificiality of this term. The term is also found in other languages besides Tamil. I have not claimed that Dravida is a single race; I have told you time and again that I am using it only in relation to a group of languages. The Indian govt has set up several Dravidian linguistic research institutions and is understood to be funding them, If you dislike the term, you are free make representations to them to remove it; you can also talk to the politicians of Tamil Nadu and get them to give the term up. This is not something in which I can help you in any manner.