ha ha..nothinga thaan work hardnu sonnnan..like that just 3-4 clicks to read the post made in other threads..Quote:
Originally Posted by Avadi to America
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ha ha..nothinga thaan work hardnu sonnnan..like that just 3-4 clicks to read the post made in other threads..Quote:
Originally Posted by Avadi to America
Again you didn't read my post correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by USV
I have not said Lingaa might have collected 11 crores in Tiruchy-Thanjavur area.
Mr. Singaravelan terms the whole Linga unit as Mosadi gumbal as they have performed a Mannulupaambu deal.
He had bought the rights for 8 crores for Thiruchy-Thanjavur area where it was screened in 55 theatres. Mr. Singaravelan must have got MG from each of this 55 theatres (there was a video from a Congress MLA who paid 60 lakhs to screen in 2 theatres from Mr. Singaravelan). This guy who criticizes this whole business model also would have followed the same thing with those 55 theatre owners.
Regarding Rs. 200/ for the first 3 days in Tuticorin I know it because I have all my relatives there.
You do know that during Baba/Kuselan days movie was not released in 650 theatres across TN right??
Lingaa Producer Emotional Talk-Main Distributor Accepting the Loss and Expecting Money -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCfo04HkhPI
I don't understand TN distributors. They made a loss, so they want compensation. So if a movie made more than they expected, they would return the excess? I do not get the logic. Why would anyone need to compensate them? They made the decision to buy the movie, they have to face the consequences and not put the blame on anyone.
Lingaa producer talks of pay-off after Pongal
The war of words between the distributors of Rajinikanth-starrer Lingaa and its producer continued late into the day on Saturday.
The distributors were finally given verbal assurance by Vendhar Movies, which bagged theatre rights for Tamil Nadu. They were promised some sort of relief for the huge losses suffered after consultation with the movie’s producer and Rajinikanth, post Pongal.
Earlier in the day, distributors held a day-long fast at Valluvar Kottam to grab the attention of actor Rajinikanth in the hope that he would intervene and provide a solution.
“There is no doubt the movie has not done well and many, including Vendhar Movies, have suffered huge losses. But, it is not right to talk about the losses while the film is still running in theatres. When it is completely out of theatres by Pongal, we will sit together with all parties concerned, including Rajinikanth, and find a solution,” said T. Siva, a representative of Vendhar Movies.
The distributors were disappointed with the response and said it was a ploy to defuse the tension and delay a solution.
Rockline Venkatesh, the film’s producer, accused the distributors of sabotaging the prospects of the film by talking about losses even while it was running in theatres.
“They never came up with positive solutions like boosting publicity when they knew the film wasn’t doing well. They went public with the losses they had suffered. By doing this, the distributors have killed the film,” said Venkatesh.
He also denied claims by some distributors that the producers had made profits of more than Rs. 200 crore. “If they prove these claims, I will give them the money,” said a teary-eyed Venkatesh.
Earlier, some politicians had shown their support for the sit-in protest and spoken in favour of the agitating distributors. Seeman, filmmaker and leader of Naam Tamilar Katchi, urged the parties involved to find an amicable solution.
Politicians are like vultures always in the waiting for something to exploit and gain something. This continues to happen time and again and will impact other stars as well. This will make things more difficult in the future for folks in the movie industry.
So are the fans Kumarsr, so are the 'fans'.Quote:
Originally Posted by kumarsr
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Naan discuss panna or unga pointku reply panna hatred,cunningnu soldraanga..Quote:
Originally Posted by omega
coming to baba kuselan/baba by that time he would have bought the movie for 1C-3C and with less theaters/ticket price the movie made loss...
Now including Vendhar all the distributors in TN were unanimously saying the movie made 70% loss...did you feel everyone is telling lies..
:lol2: now I know how these benami IDs and இரவல் பெயரில் நடவடிக்கை coming handyQuote:
Originally Posted by USV
That is 70% loss..video paatheengala dilbert..appappa vanthu "binami id" apdi ipdinu comedy panringa..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dilbert
neenga solrathukkulaan "aama saamy" potta nallavan illena kettavan,binami,rhomba kovam vantha sareda,poda,vaada..vera ennena irukku,ellam sollunga..
Here is what I feel,Quote:
Originally Posted by USV
- Movie made loss for sure (based on whatever ticket price they have showed on account)
- 60% occupancy on 1st day is a blatant lie
- Baba/Kuselan was a flop written all over it just after the 1st show it was screened
- Lingaa definitely had the potential to become a decent hit
- Lingaa as far I can tell has done very well overseas
Bottom line is there was a pre plan executed very well to bring down this movie right from day one.
We Rajini fans are not worried about the movie becoming a flop at all. They have used this to defame Rajini in every possible way.
Anyway if all this makes those souls happy then so be it.
:clap: every dog has its day !!Quote:
Originally Posted by omega
Agree to your points. If not a blockbuster, atleast a decent hit but not a flop for sure. Not like some who claimed its done worse than Kochadiyaan. US collections in particular are $1.5M + only next to Endiran. I also felt there has been some kind of an undercurrent to bring the movie down. If someone can get to the bottom of it, it'll be a slap on those who think the movie bit dust ...Quote:
Originally Posted by omega
Hope SS is careful next time but he needs to know who his enemies are ...
Idhu thaan boss puriyala "Bottom line is there was a pre plan executed very well to bring down this movie right from day one"..what pre-plan? are you saying Vijay/SAC,politicians? who??Quote:
Originally Posted by omega
For me its other way..whenever rajni movie flops the opportunist are trying to exploit to defame rajni,,it happened with baba when ramdoss exploited,now seeman/velumurugan are exploiting..
Don't talk about overseas..in overseas even kuselan is not flop..overseas film flop aagaathu because their estimation is only 1st day/preview collections which will be 70% of total which anyhow they will get it for top star movies..
Next you said "Lingaa definitely had the potential to become a decent hit" - To some extent I agree but to achieve that it has to come from family audience and not with hardcore rajni fans/youth..unmaiya sollunga unga groupla ethana rajni fans'ku padam pudichirukku..rajni fans didn't like that much because of rajinism missing in the movie but definitely family audience will like this movie to some extent but one need to accept during exam time family members wont go to theaters,by the time exam is over more movies are released in theaters like pisasu,kayal,etc..I am sure these ppl would haven't had guts to release the movie on dec 19,25 if WOM is good for lingaa..
Pisasu announced their release date of dec 19 by sunday just 2 days after lingaa release..
so many movie release along with WOM hampered the collections further..
romba mukkeyam !! World huger will be solved once you understand this? Ppl had gutso .. liver fryoo.. ellam oru plate bhai kadai biryani-la irrkum. Poongea your honor move on to other threads.Quote:
Originally Posted by USV
ha ha..neenga sonna intha vaakiyathaiyum below videovaiyum compare panni paathaenQuote:
Originally Posted by Dilbert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2ktpqHBDks
You are trying hard to list Lingaa with Baba & Kuselan.Quote:
Originally Posted by USV
Yes Lingaa had mixed reviews with hardcore Rajini fans feeling Rajinism being missing, but fans like me liked it even better than Sivaji for example.
Lingaa definitely was targeted towards family audience and that is exactly Mr. Singaravelan spoiled by his agenda driven propaganda from the 5th day of the movie release.
All nuetral fans of me who watched here liked the movie. Baba & Kuselan were totally rejected by almost everybody.
To say that every movie will be hit overseas is another blanket statement which is not true.
I don't think there is nothing more to add.
overseas I talked about top actor movies mostly..Quote:
Originally Posted by omega
ok..boss neega enna soldreenga movie flop aanathukku below thaan reasonnu soldreenga..
"pre plan executed very well to bring down this movie right from day one"
"Mr. Singaravelan spoiled by his agenda driven propaganda from the 5th day of the movie release"
..Let it be there
USV, you are one of the opportunist trying to exploit to defame Rajini.
Chennai box office result is an indication for TN. With 7 cr collection in chennai city alone, how will it be flop?
70% lossnnu evan sonnan? Muttal thanama illai? Atha inga vanthu support panra nenga enna distributora? Ungalukku en evvalau akkari distributors mela? Just to defame rajini?
People like u are not doing this from day one? What is the difference between you and the great Singaravelan?
Neenga trendlaiyae illai boss..1st flop illainu sonna hardcore fans ippa 54 mins videola producers,vendhar siva severe losssnu vothukuttathukku apram "pre plan from day1","agenda driven propaganda" nu polamba aarambhichitaanga..Quote:
Originally Posted by cm123
"opportunist","cunning","fakeid" - bore adikuthu puthusa try pannunga
shabba -- enakku averagea irukura padatha super,doopernu sollanum ,300 kodi collection aayiduchunu sollanuma..Quote:
Originally Posted by cm123
idhu varaikum personal attack,abusive word use panrukana..
but post pidikulenna personal attack panrathu "get out of this thread solrathu",poda vadanu solrathulaan yaaru..who has to be compared with ur Singaravelan?
USV, come to the point. You and some others trying to defame Rajini from day one .You can read ur own posts, I don't have to prove anything.
this is my point initially "the movie is average and later I said it didn't make huge collections"..many posts on the top of it is the discussion with u folks who says movie is good and it collected many many..more discussions happened when you folks disrespect if my post is not liked by hardcore fans..if u think this is to defame rajni then I am not bothered..neenga sonnathukku "aama saamy" podravan elevating rajniya??Quote:
Originally Posted by cm123
Who asked u to put amam samy?. If it is average say average.but many of u and some others posts say flop and supporting distributors. And I didn't say poda vada etc, some fans getting irritation is normal as you guys post only negative thing.
Where did I support distributors? movie lossnu naan sonnan but kirukku thanama distributor pesunatha oppose thaan pannan..read my post properly..Quote:
Originally Posted by cm123
neenga greedynu sonnathukku naan greedy illainu sonnathu distributorku supporta..
ok..boss neenga intha threadla positive thinga post panni enjoi pannunga..
ரஜினி இதில் தலையிட்டு சமரசம் மேற்கொள்ளக் கூடாது. அப்படியே மேற்கொண்டாலும்.. இனி என் படங்களுக்கு இவ்வளவு அதிக விலைகொடுத்து வாங்கவேண்டாம், டிக்கட் விலைகளை நினைத்தே பார்க்கமுடியாத அளவிற்கு உயர்த்த வேண்டாம், திருட்டு விசிடியை ஒழிக்க விநியோகஸ்தர்கள், தயாரிப்பாளர்கள், திரையரங்கு உரிமையாளர்கள் ஒன்றாக நின்று அரசிடம் ஆவன நடவடிக்கை எடுக்குமாறு வற்புறுத்தனும் என்றெல்லாம் அழுத்தமாக பேசணும்.
Enna sir unga prachanai?Quote:
Originally Posted by USV
Athaan Vendhar Siva, Rockline Vengatesh ellaarum sollittaangale, appuram vera yaar enna sonna ungalukku enna?
Poyi santhosama UV trailerkku wait panna vendiyathuthaana?
Inga vanthu bore adikkuthuna epdi?
You sound like as if only for Rajini movies all these are happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by venkkiram
I agree with all your points but it is not limited to Rajini alone.
ok..boss..enjoii..Quote:
Originally Posted by omega
நான் முன்பே இங்கு சொன்னதுதான்.. ரஜினிதான் கடந்த 25 வருடங்களாக பாக்ஸ் ஆபிஸ் கிங் என்றெல்லாம் பலமுறை மீடியா மற்றும் தயாரிப்பாளர்கள் புகழ்ந்துகொண்டு வருகின்றன. பிளாக்கில் கண்மூடித்தனமாக யானை விலைக்கு டிக்கட்டுகள் முதல் வாரங்களில் விற்பனை ஆவதும் ரஜினி படங்களே ஆரம்பித்து வைத்தன என்பது என் அபிப்ராயம். அதிகவிலை கொடுத்து தயாரிப்பாளிடமிருந்து விநியோகஸ்தர்கள், திரையரங்கு உரிமையாளர்கள் வாங்குவதிலும் ரஜினி படங்களே முன்னிலை எனவும் நினைக்கிறென். அதனால் ரஜினியே இதை சரிசெய்ய முன்வந்தால் நன்றாக இருக்கும். மேலும் தனிப்பட்ட முறையில் ரஜினி தனது தொழில் சார்ந்த ஒரு பிரச்சினையை எப்படி அணுகி சரியான தீர்வை கொண்டுவர முயல்கிறார் என்பதையும் மக்கள் பார்க்கட்டுமே! தன் துறை சார்ந்த பிரச்சினையைக் கூட தீர்க்காத ஒரு நட்சத்திரம் எப்படி நாளை முதல்வர் ஆக எல்லா தகுதியும் இருக்குன்னு சொல்றிங்க என பொதுமக்களும் உணரவேண்டிய நேரம் வந்தாச்சின்னு நெனைக்கிறேன்.Quote:
Originally Posted by omega
Rajini oru saatharna nadigar sir, ethukku neengalum pathirikkai kaaranga maathiri Naalaya Muthalvarnu build up kodukkureenga?Quote:
Originally Posted by venkkiram
What I meant it, just Rajini alone will not be able to find a solution for this. It is not as simple you think.
ரஜினி என்ற தனி மனிதனால் முடியாத ஒன்றுதான். ஒத்துக்கொள்கிறேன். ஆனால் சினிமாவில் அதற்கான ஆட்களை ஒருங்கிணைத்து பேச்சுவார்த்தை ஏற்படுத்தவாவது ரஜினி முயற்சிக்கணும். மறுபடியும் தியேட்டரில் கூட்டம் வரணும் என்றால் திருட்டு விசிடி ஒழியனும். மக்களிடமும் அவர் பேசலாம்.
People said there was no good villain in Lingaa (on screen).
Now we got a good off-screen villain for Lingaa.. lingaa singaaravelan :lol:
it is now Linga Vs Singa(ravelan)
1990-ல் பணக்காரன் வெளியான போது, ரஜினி இந்த மாதிரி படங்களில் நடித்தால் சீக்கிரம் காணாமல் போயிடுவார் என விகடன் சொன்னது. 1997-ல் அருணாசலம் வெளியான போது இந்த படத்துக்கெல்லாம் விமர்சனம் தேவை இல்லை என்று குமுதம் சொன்னது. அப்போ எல்லாம் flop ஆகாத ரஜினி படம் இப்போ யாரோ ஒரு விநியோகிஸ்தர் படத்தை பற்றி தப்ப பேசியதால் படம் ஓட வில்லையாம்.
ஆஹா... அஜித்,விஜய் ரசிகர்கள் போலவே ரஜினி ரசிகர்களும் இப்போ காமெடி பண்ண ஆரம்பிச்சுட்டாங்க.
USV,
I have been reading all your posts, are seriously trying to defame Rajni ? Do you really think it will work ? In TFI History Rajni is the "Only" actor (Not sure about MGR/Shivaji) who has higher "Hit" ratio over "Flop".
The percentage of Flops he had over Hit/Super hits/ Block busters is less than 25 % .
If Distributers paid a huge price , without analysing the business model, because of "Greed" , then what Can Rajni do, he is just an actor, he acted he did justice to his role, got paid and went about his business, the distributors should come to an agreement with the producers not with Rajni!
Today only saw this post caught my eyes,I am obliged to replay here..
Business dynamics have changed now,only fool will find a solace now by attributing SOLO as biggerst crime to a commericially successfull movie based on his own Self perception theory.
This disease become contageous post Mankatha harvesting that 2011 Ramzan 5 day weekend,since then infected mostly Vijay fans starting showing two symtoms one to celebrate SOLO as biggest crime or start playing flagholding opponent films like sudden Ambala fans.
None had problem with SOLO films Pre-Mankatha period..in that way that was truly remarkable achievement.
Dude You keep reiterating as if UK/Europe scenario is symmetric to TN where major collection takes place.Care another refund settlement with distributors?Quote:
Originally Posted by CEDYBLUE
you should find a yourself way to justify yourself how a film boycotted within week by Theatre owner(Tirupur) not following distributors condition(regarding Ticket rate) for not meeting his expectation and trimming on third day would have done bizz as much you claim(TN) like only marginal lead
Theres two way in cinema business,either you should have Producer with strong clout in distribution networks like Studio green/Redgiant/Oscar/Dhanu/Vendhar to set things hapen everything as scheduled or just abide by Producer what he feels is best trade for him.This is generic practice.Quote:
Originally Posted by CEDYBLUE
Trade knows who opens big a notch bigger than other contemporary stars.Till now Ajit hasnt landed himself in awkward position to reachout to some third men to have his film released or giving thriller ride to fans whether film is releasing or not.That a great feat
On contrast,I cant even stand firm without bending the spine to someone to bail out release whenever hiccups occur isn't?like Kaavalan/Velayudham like Jaya meeting etc whoever in upperhand.
Then whats the point in grooming about this Beautiful manhair buddy !
Quote:
Originally Posted by CEDYBLUE
I will explain the scenario ...Rajini back after Babafailure.Vijay fresh after success of Ghilli/Thirupachi released sachin with Chandramuki under SAC Astrologers prediction that one penny above Chandramuki will make Vijay as Superstar only to get spanked red.
Releasing with Chandramuki-Mumba-XPress is Gutso-Manhair is it,Oh my God then Why Mr.Vijay's Leg was shivering and wetting his pants in Vijaay TV awards that Rajini is only superstar after sending Thanks letter to Kumudam.If that VijayTV sppech wasn't asusual fake humility,Vijay should have politely refused instead of Thanking na?
Gives nod for Next superstar function in Madurai to finaly cancel it out of amma fear or Thalaiva fiaso?now shamelessly talking about Ajith huh?
Let me give medicine in your own prescription ,Quote:
Originally Posted by CEDYBLUE
Vettaikaran chickening out is due to Surya Adhavan or Vijay Wetting his pant due to JayamRavi's Peraanmai or Udhay arm-Twisting to postpone it out of Diwali 2009.Is it UdhayRun or AadhavanRun or JayamRaviSyndrome... Oh wait That was the time Vijay become Sun Netwrk asset.So its their call
Sura is a Colossal flop only because it was Solo and didnt have any opposition film on same day of release,else Part of overflowing crowd coming to other movie due to lack of tickets would have watched Sura and made it All time Blockbuster.
Kavalan -Father-Son getting Special appointment with Amma Shaking head like that O-Panneerselvam in her office Ajith fans had some sympathy that time.Finally Saviour fell prey to Cheetah ...Yes Vijay fans have long term memory loss ...Shameless they speak about Saguni and billas .is Pre-Election ADMK Sugercoating or CheetahRun?
Velayudham- Launch Trailer once ADMK election results are announced in JayaTV along with Poll results,
During Election campaign Say I am like Squirell(to Rama in building Bridge) to ADMK in election.
Oscar released the film with 7Sense with so much of trouble and now he says Vijay ran away with15C.Is this should be called OscarRun?? or Election ADMK Sugercoating
Nanban-2 days Prior as solo release to Lingusamy Vettai.Credited for giving First ever flop to Shankar in Andhra and First film of mine to release there.This is called OutOfAndhraRun
Thuppakki-Film was a Massive success not because of ARM-Vijay's superb taking just because it clashed with reigning young superstars Simbu'S Poda Podi.This is called Battle of Waterloo,Simbu was Napoleon Bonaparte
Thalaivaa- My Son is like MGR since Vijay played crucial role in ADMK assembly election win,Amma spanks hard ......Now I release a Youtube video having innocent face shamelessly praise amma of her Tamil nadu achievements mostly .Finally Producer in street for my Selfish Political gimmicks just to gain attention even after knowing what Trouble Kamal has gonethrough just for endorsing P.Chidambaram in one his Speech.This is called ProducerRun.
Sympathy what Kamal got for Vishwaroopam not even 1% public had on Vijay during Thalaiva episode.This sums up
Ok He did for Producer sake to fans,But He doesnt even have balls to speak about actual problem just singing Amma Achievement lullabies??
Jilla-We just scored more marks in Internals(20/20 some 2-3 C more in UK and Kerala),But failed in Main Thearitical exams .Reason out of Syllabus question sadly other guy got distinction.No worries we secured centum in BabyAlbert.This is BabyAlbert run
Kaththi-Oscar and Shankar Chickened out last minute only due to Purathchi Thalapathy Vishals Poojai not because of Post Production delays.Finally Vijay fought royal battle and won.This is called ShankarRun
Come on,Have you heard Podhu Maathu...Thats what happening to Vijay if you assume Bala thing as huge embarrasement. Atleast Bala apologised,AMrathnam /GVM had bitter relation with Ajith,Now You know what is happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by CEDYBLUE
What you call Armtwisting by Udhay and Sun ,Subhaskarans ,I fall to every tom and dick Politician like seasoal bird for film release + political mileage and get spanked by them.From Producer to Politician to Public everyone has their share of mark on Vijay face.
Podhumaathu Ponambalam fans shouldn't open their mouth if they have any spine on offscreen topics.
Thanks for Your concern on YA,Vijay fans should be proud of Ajith resurrecting one producer who once gave career defining hits to Vijay.Unlike Your star declining to do a film with when needed.
"Thief getting scorpio sting bite should better keep himself dumb" should be best prescription for Vijay fans when Topics like Behind screen works of star are involved for the betterment :)
Any day Selfmade Superstar is better than SetupSuperstar ....Just swap the river in which both sailed,Easily it will be evident who is the most gutsy respected admired and bigger star.
Hey Small screen anchored star also started using Ajith in his latest movie.....If anyone left among current gen star not using Ajith ,it should be Rival star VIjay...Who knows he may also use it one day :wink:
On side note Google most searched was Powerstar Srinivasan than Andhra Powerstar Pawankalyan.this formula may be applicable to many cases...Cheers
Absolutely Sorry if it was harsh,nothing personal to you just wanna share something that may cure some kind of amnesia to some fellow Vijay fans.