+1, simbly love the 'மனதில் ஓசைகள், இதழில் மௌனங்கள்' line, vaira vari :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by V_S
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+1, simbly love the 'மனதில் ஓசைகள், இதழில் மௌனங்கள்' line, vaira vari :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by V_S
Romantic story back ground for a romantic song. உங்க காதல் கதையை மட்டும் தெளிவா விட்டுடீங்க!!Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
The awards for the movies certified in 1983 were given in 1984. Confusion cleared?!
[QUOTE=app_engine;736556]#139 வேதம் அணுவிலும் ஒரு நாதம்
(சலங்கை ஒலி, 1983 , ஷைலஜாவுடன்)
My favourite piece in this song is the brilliant postlude which comes only in the movie. There is a small piece in mridangam followed by chorus when Kamal's body is taken out of the hall in the wheel chair. The music as such is logical end to the song.
There is a sudden downpour and Sarathbabu holds an umbrella to Kamal's body! Beautifully shot sequence. Even the End title card was tastefully done. It shows END first and then NO on the top of it and FOR THE ART beneath it!!
Already told in the hub sArE :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by genesis
Why repeat?
Exactly crvenky! Beautiful shot and ending. Very well explained. Hearing how the song started with high adrenalin rush and how it ends on a sanskrti sloka in a very sober way. Top notch stuff! Yes brilliantly done song overall. End credit 'No End for the Art" too brilliant. :notworthy: :clap:
Tried to post url's for posts on all 140 songs - not possible - as there is a max limit of 10000 characters / per post.
So, I'll have to use the same 1001 iravukaL style posting (of only 1983 links now and pushing to trace back to 1982, 1981, 1980 & 70's on a "kadhaikkuL kadhai" format as before).
All 70's & years 1980, 1981, 1982 here
Those of 1983:
#103 thAmaraikkodi tharaiyil vandhadheppadi
#104 O veNNilAvE vA Odi vA
#105 oomai nenjin OsaikaL kAdhil kELAdhO
#106 andharangam yAvumE solvathenRAl pAvamE
#107 dEvadhai iLam dEvi unnaichchuRRum Avi
#108 kAviriyE kavikkuyilE kaNmaNiyE vA vA
#109 pEsakkoodAthu
#110 urukinEn urukinEn
#111 isai mEdaiyil
#112 thAzhampoovE kaNNuRangu
#113 sirichchA kollimalaikkuyilE
#114 geetham sangeetham
#115 poththi vachcha malliga mottu
#116 andhi varum nEram
#117 chinnanjiRu kiLiyE
#118 thalaiyaikkuniyum thAmaraiyE
#119 Adi mAsakkAththadikka
#120 vizhigaL meenO mozhikaL thEnO
#121 thenRalO theeyO theeNdiyathu nAnO
#122 onnum theriyAtha pAppA
#123 vA vA pakkam vA
#124 rAthiriyil poothirukkum thAmarai thAn peNNO
#125 adukku malligai
#126 poomAlai oru pAvai AnadhO
#127 nAnAka nAnillai thAyE
#128 vAnam keezhE vandhAl enna
#129 summA nikkAdheenga
#130 varudhu varudhu vilaku vilaku
#131 thoongAthE thambi thoongAthE
#132 sOlaippoovil mAlaiththenRal Adum nEram
#133 O mAnE mAnE mAnE unnaiththAnE
#134 ennammA kObam Enindha vEgam
#135 mArgazhippArvai pArkkavA
#136 vAn pOlE vaNNam koNdu
#137 nAdha vinOdhangaL
#138 thakida thathimi
#139 vEdham aNuvilum oru nAdham
#140 mounamAna nEram
#141 நீயா அழைத்தது என் நெஞ்சில் மின்னல் அடித்தது
(அலை ஓசை, 1984 , ஜானகியுடன்)
I know this sweet song, heard it many times on buses / cassettes but never cared to look at the movie title. IIRC, this is the first Vijayakanth song we feature in this SPB-IR chronological compilation in this thread! (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, I plan to send a PM to HR to authenticate if this is the first year when a VK+IR film had a SPB number...may not be the first film as in the same year there could have been other VK movies).
Another interesting thing is the director. Web sources say it was Sirumukai Ravi (yes, the same one who did rAgangaL mARuvathillai, how he managed to get another movie after that dud is a mystery)!
There is a mild mid-eastern feel to this song, though not explicit. That way, some northie feel also.
ok, after the powerful end to 1983 with sAgara(sangama)m, a mild continuation to 1984 with alai Osai, once again the sAgar connection :-)
Yarrupa mess itethallam pesi pazhasa nabaga paduthurathu.. appadiey seventh illana sixth block pathi pesittu ponga...Quote:
Originally Posted by kiru
Aaaha. So many useful and interesting discussions happening on hub and I missing most of it :(Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
App: Nice to hear your story.
Lovely posts going on and unfortunately unable to write bigger comments. Anyway, let me try and support app on the 'mounamaana neram' song.
Here is a contestant singing the original Telugu song, "mounam elanoyi". Forget about her singing. Check the comments that K Vishwanath and SPB give after she finishes the song. To those who don't understand Telugu, here is the gist:
Director K. VIshwanath (he is the chief guest): I asked Illayaraja that I needed a song, similar to old Geeta Dutt songs, giving us the feeling of evening breeze. Let's do a soft song like that. Based on my request he gave me this song.The words have merged so well that you cannot make out that words were written for the tune. And that orchestration. In lot of songs, orchestration and the tune do not merge together. The orchestration will be doing something tangential to the tune. In this song, the tune has merged beautifully with the words and the orchestration merges with the tune as if they are Parvathi and Siva.
SPB: (After the initial humming, turns to K Vishwanath and says) I am sure his inspiration for the song came from this humming of Geeta Dutt, since you had mentioned Geeta Dutt to him. I think this is from the movie 'Bandini'. Raja was a great fan of Dada Burman. (Turns to KV again) You know how much he respected Burman. He even has his photo in his recording room. (Sings part of the songs and stops at 'letha gaali' and exclaims) Who is this fellow? Isn't it like 'letha gaali' here (tender breeze). The second note gives that effect. This song has so many nuances. (To the contestant) You tried to get that laugh there but it did not register. (Sings again) The voice sounds like an Hawaiian guitar here. (Sing again) No one will compose such a 'sangathi' here except Illayaraja. If they ask me to improvise I would done like this (sings) but not like what Illayaraja did. No one can think of it except Illayaraja, because that is how it is. It is just that he is a bit more closer to Saraswathi than others. (Sings again and at 'ta tha ra raa points out) Initially there was no voice here just music but hearing the way she sang either Raja or KV told her to join in. (Asks the orchestra to play the flute bit again.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l84GcpKBEE
Truly inspiring stuff.
One more clip of the same 'mouna melanoyi' song and again SPB comments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I88PQx3ljuE
The kid sings quite well and went on to win the competition.
SPB's comments: If anyone other than Illayaraja in the whole of India can compose such a song, I will quit singing. (Luckily for us, there is none and hence Balu is still singing :) ). We (me and Janaki) had a tough time making this our own. We had to sing each and every sangathi designed by Raja. We did not add anything at all to the song. Every single bit is that of Illayaraja.
Plum..dont mean to frustrate you. I should have added 'religio-cultural' aspects also are difficult to translate. For eg. how would you translate - sivanEnu irundhEn .. ippadi *********** .we do get your point - Vairamuthu patently made it secular. Well, as an artist we should give him some freedom. Inspite of all criticisms about him here, he is a damn good poet (see foll. example by V_S) so some of us might tend to ignore such transgressions which you might find non-trivial.
@app - now that youth has slipped thru my fingers like fine sand.. I am probably clutching on to these memories to feel younger :-) All those teen years marveling Vairamuthu's lyrics glorifying the beauty of a woman or nature has given way to IR's kaaranam inRi kanneer varum really bringing the tears out !!!
@a-to-a - :-) - not sure how many people here would have 'seat pidichchufied in the mess way before 7pm when the serving actually starts' !!! app any stories related to mess ?. you would say it better.
Kiru, I don't mean to be an arrogant prick. Atleast, I don't MEAN to.
But the point is that I did objectively say that vm failed to capture nuances. Both you and gen agree on the point. The bit about me saying that vm is inferior because of ths is strictly in your imagination only
Great links, Sureshji! mikka nanRi!
SPB, arumaiyAna rasikanayyA neer! vAzhga!
kiru,
Since there are lot more songs to post in this thread, I'll make sure most interesting experiences related to mess get captured :-)
Yes, that'll include the rush to D mess before 7 PM on occasions :-)
#142 அழகான பூக்கள்
(அன்பே ஓடி வா, 1984 )
AhA! What a sweetie!
Perhaps one of the songs that I had enjoyed max number of times on headphone during hostel days! Ofcourse, on each occasion, listened to the SJ version as well. Interestingly, I've not ceased to enjoying the SJ version ('kanavOdu Engum iLam poongodi' where it almost sounds like a ghazal when she sings the pallavi in the end). Even now - it's a regular on car often unlike the SPB number which is not on any of my special-cut CDs.
A guitar special, with some novice-like stereo tricks - perhaps IR gave a free hand to the sound guys till the first half of eightees. It was possibly from the 'enga ooru pAttukkAran' times that the mixing / disti of instruments to left & right were of some standard ('sheNbagamE' is great).
Until then, it wasn't handled professionally IMO (including the celebrated priyA and pattAkkAththi bhairavan - even the likes of payaNangaL mudivathillai). anbE Odi vA is another example where the disti between left-right is laugh-worthy by today's standards but I thoroughly enjoyed the gimmicks during student days. (Interestingly, I was also listening to the likes of beat it , thriller & billie jean a lot during the same time period on headphones. Strange that I liked both sets of music on walkman despite the 'ENi vachchAlum ettAtha' recording standards).
Ofcourse the TDK sponsor was our Thanjavur thalaivar! He continued his dedicated rAsA service to the Emerald hostelers each week. IR's albums during 84 were like flood - practically one each week and we had laddu supply from thanjai almost weekly! My movie viewing had come down a little bit (after whole-year-topper-of-almost-250 in sem 2, I was close to class bottom within the 40-strong ECE in sem 3... so working on some damage control from sem 4, got great dividends topping the class in sem 6 & 7). Still, it was only a "little-bit" as none during the Saturday shows on audi got skipped. Neither did the cycling to bhelec or thuvAk-city tooring talkies reduce.
However, there were fewer trips to rockfort-citty theaters and don't remember watching anbE Odi vA...
I've also settled on the SJ version but I prefer the imperfections of recording as you call them of the 80s to the clarity of Ramarajan days. I can't see a problem with pattakththi bhairavan etc. Thank God for my music tech ignorance.
The SPB bersion lacks something - wholesomeness, perhaps, that the Janaki version offers
App_engine
IMHO SPB took a little more liberty while singing this song and thus losing the IR touch (May be IR was not in the Studio when the recording happened). SJ if you notice would have sung in a controlled manner.
People always blame IR for not giving too much a free hand to the singers while singing. Not that I am a musical expert, but I am on IR's side. Songs singing with controlled alaaps always sound better..
None the less, a good song and SPB always shines (except for the too much Kuzhaivus..)
Bala
APP, neenga padichathu enga... CEG laya...Quote:
Originally Posted by kiru
illeeng, REC (now called NIT)Quote:
Originally Posted by Avadi to America
Ennabba inge old boys network Akramippu?
Actually, after Plum's criticism I feel I won't feel the same when revisiting the movie. It's like, "What the hell, there's something about the movie that many (esp. those who understood Telugu and the culture) knows about that I will never know. Okay, let's skip this and watch nAnum oru tozhilAli :sad:".Quote:
Originally Posted by genesis
thiruththEril varum silaiyO & ennOdu pAdungaL (I'm trying to show thread-relevance)
:rotfl:Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
:rotfl3:
:rotfl2:
What a tremendous year 1983 has been...Simply rocking!!! And what a beautiful closure, Maunamaana Neram....Love the picturization..I think KH & Jayaprada 2 most attractive actors of their time...Oozing the song with their impeccable acting & expressions...wowwee...
Very interesting write ups abt yr college days..College days always bring so much fond memories. :D Lovely !!
Cruising away in to 1984...
#143 ஜோடி நதிகள்
(அன்பே ஓடி வா, 1983 )
Many of my hostelmates liked this song more than others from this movie and I couldn't understand why. To me, kanavOdu Engum was the top winner (along with its male sibling). In my books, this was an "average" song with an acceptable melody, ok orchestration and some SPB enhancements. However, most others found this fabulous, confusing me.
In any case, this was on radio frequently and on the TDKs of recording-center fans. Some of those recording center fans happened to be drivers and conductors of private buses of TN who were the primary promoters of music at one point of time. (Actually, the whole of 80's, they were as big contributors as tea shops / functions in making music available to public).
As there was public acceptance, the song gets featured here :-)
Actually, the KJY number 'idhazhil amudham' was also very popular with me (at par with kanavOdu Engum).
I'll have to skip the other SPB number 'thuLLum iLamai idhu' which didn't find as much acceptance as the other numbers from this movie. My hostelmates didn't care, not much public response as well. I liked the song, however, and listened to it on headphone quite a lot :-)
nanRi, Divine22!
I'll try to judiciously allocate space for hotel purANam...
நீங்க தமிழ்ல Comedy Central சேனலே ஆரம்பிக்கலாம் - அந்த அளவுக்கு திறமை பொங்கி வழியுது.Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
Who can make a laugh-a-sentence masterpiece on naan vaazha vaippen even after ignoring the chief object of ridicule for lesser humorists, in the movie _ namely silai varum thiruther aka KR Vijaya?
Ans: the inimitable grouch can.
neRayya "old" boys, that's why :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
BTW, one more song is due, i.e. for Monday (both the AOV songs were for the weekend)...
As we've done all three songs for 1984 that belong to "smallies-group", I want to shuffle the alpha order a little bit to bring a biggie song next.
Accordingly, let me keep aside the 'veLLaippuRA onRu' clone for now and jump to the "Meena-on-wheel-chair-movie" song :-)
#144 தேன் பூவே பூவே வா தென்றல் தேடி
(அன்புள்ள ரஜினிகாந்த், 1984 , ஜானகியுடன்)
It's irritating to see a number of internet resources naming Krishna Chandar as the male singer of this song :shock: I don't know whether there's another version on the disk with KC or he is credited wrongly in some cassettes / CDs or whatever. Or could it be that there was "a different Krishnachandar -not the guy of EdhO mOham / pudichchAlum pudichchEn / aLLi vachcha malligaiyE- but another who mimicked SPB" :think:
At one point of time, I did go to some of those links and verified that it was exactly the same SPB-SJ song that I'm used to. Also, I very clearly remember the radio days announcing this song as the one by my fav pair. It would be quite interesting to trace and find out how this "net-goof-up" happened / who started it first etc. (I've mentioned about this way back, on page 10 of this thread )
Great song, with phenomenal prelude that feels like a thuLLal stream jumping out of a hill and a brilliant second interlude!
Movie was directed by Natraj who had done a couple of peculiar roles on screen prior. (One was 'manasAtchi' of Rajinikanth in moonRu mudichchu, another was the rapist in moonRam piRai...I'm immediately reminded of Kamal's kadi joke on seeing suppiramaNi in a water tank - "pAsam, pAsamuLLa nAy"). IIRC, reportedly among the off-field friends of Rajinikanth (possibly the film institute connection).
Meena was child artist on wheel chair, singing 'Rajini uncle' in this movie (muththu maNichchudarE vA, what a lovely song in KJY's voice)! For those who watched this movie at the time of its release, ejmAn / veerA / muththu were kind of embarassing but that is the way the industry runs. Sridevi acted as kid and jOdi to Shivaji. Actresses also get to play lover & mom to some heroes over a period of time (Sujatha, for e.g.) While such things typically happen after years / decades (or in some multi-role movies), we have also seen some funny things happening during the same time period (ShreyA & NayantArA played jOdi to real-life mAmanAr & marumagan, for e.g.)
My most fav song from this movie is ofcourse 'kadavuL uLLamE Or karuNai illamE' - a song that gives goosebumps in the prelude and welling up of tears in a few places elsewhere! rAsA at his best there! Ofcourse he was brilliant in this duet for ambi chEchi who dances around with Rajkumar (was he the brother of Latha , the MGR heroini ?)
Rajinikanth comes as Rajinikanth in this movie which did moderate biz I think. (Unlike many other dud movies that try to cash on the popularity of a mega star by bringing him in for a couple of scenes but fail miserably). I remember watching it in Trichy town with my hostel neighbor (needless to mention which neighbor, groucho would have guessed it already :wink:).
Indeed, (MGR Latha) Rajkumar. Grouch and I had a fiscussion over this recently. Apparently, there is a dud Rqjkumar in the 80s from Malaysia, too.
We are now entering a period where perhaps one of the years will have 100 SPB songs for IR. Good luck, app, covering all of them
Eh, app? Which neighbour? I yam confused-ya. I am with you = AzhagAna pookkal. Sanggathiyila pinnirupAr SPB.
And thanks app, plum (I avoided KRV punching, so obvious) and genesis.
He was referred in a prior post and I thought you'll remember him as the Ambi chEchi fanatic :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
Ah, I see. Okay okay.
Hah, speaking of whom. It's 5pm plus here in Malaysia, and the Tamizh radio station is playing songs with theme: Ambika & Radha :bluejump: :redjump: (might be relevant).
Will list them out as they play
1. Eyy UnnaittAne (Kadhal "I hate, signed Plum" Parisu)
2. Hi everybody, wish you a happy new yearrrr..........(SKV)come on Ambiga doesn't get to lip synch here, what's wrong with the station???.
3. Kavithai AranggErum NEram (That Seven days that Bagyaraj avoided aerobics) Yesss...her debut in Tamil?
4. KAdhal Oviyam kAnum kAviyam - (Seriously dude, I started the new wave, see my film title got "wave" in it, Anbudan Unggal Barathiraja). Radha, bleh.
5. Poovadai kAtru - (gopurams are never leaning tower of Pisa), app, Krishnachander is not bad here. Come one....cut him some slack, maybe a pair.
6. kAthal MaharAnee kavithai poovirithAl. (second entry, not my fault Plum).
7. Sokkupodi pakkathila vacchurukken (Mother's warior)Of all songs, jeez....
8. Eyy kuruvi, chitttu kuruvi (The one where Bharathiraja gives respect to NT by making him hen-pecked and show off to young chicks by lifting rock, groan....)
Okay, 6pm, news, and I yam veedu going....bye....
groucho,
reg your question on 3, Ambika's debut in Thamizh could be the Kamal movie kadal meengaL which predates wOh sAt din. (Dances with Suman for the MV classic 'enRenRum AnandhamE, inbangaL AyiramE')
didn't she make her debut in tamil for the film "sakkalathi" ?Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine