The only consolation for Mano in sivarAththiree is KSC too struggling :lol: as she was no Moanica Seles :-)
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The only consolation for Mano in sivarAththiree is KSC too struggling :lol: as she was no Moanica Seles :-)
Listening to 'kaiyetha kombathu' from 'Vinodayatra'. To me, the best Malayalam melody I have heard this century!!!
kadhal seiya kanne radha naal varadha.........ir spb sailaja...... a very good song.
Link please! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by naarayanan
Que,
first.. Narayanana thititu unaku link tharen. Wait.
Narayana,
Lyric a thappa solli. hmmmmm.. 1 hour a thedi thedi kedaikalai.. ipadi oru paatu yen theriyalai nu thindadi.. apram strike agi.. kandu pidichen.............. thookam thelinji
pochu ...... Grrrrrrrrrr...............
http://thiraipaadal.com/album.php?AL...R00260&lang=en
Kadhal seiya - illa
Maalai soda kannae radha
app, agree that it's not fantabulous. I agree SPB would do better. SPB would do better anywhere. But Mano did his best there, and I can't think of anyone better than Mano, after SPB, to do that song. Apparently IR thought the same too. Came out well on screen as well. Compare this with MV's excellent Per Vechalum. Two different moods, for two different characters. Two different singers. Two well chosen singers.
sorry usha, yday i was half sleepy, just as this song i referred to siriya paravai as pudhiya paravai on vicky's post. there is a vide too for this song although for 1 minute.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6qIvxLOsBI
Listening to 'Manam Virumbude Unnai'. Lot of gems here.
இளவேனிற் கால பஞ்சமி :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
And vAnaththil adum or nilavu - but then, Mano chews and spits the words in a way as to remove all appetite from our ears. Chitra, as often in partnership with Mano, is left to save the day
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xiw...uto#from=embed
what a magical bgm--rhythm guitar, flute, accordion, church bells, mesmerizing violin postlude lures you back to the composition.
DIVINE Ilayaraja's DEVAN THIRUCHABAI MALARGALE.........POORANI & INDIRA...AVAR ENAKKE SONDHAM..........1977......KANNADASAN.
3 decades +, early ilayaraja's magic rules forever!
Music of the century from Early Ilayaraja
tantalizing violin prelude and interludes, flute bgm with heavenly Janumma's singing & huming
KANDEN ENGUM........KAATRINILE VARUM GEETHAM......1978.....ILAYARAJA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od2N2tZnu14&feature=player_detailpage
After my trip to the baseball field this evening, You and me, Raja, it's a date..:swinghead:
Treat me to your world of musical magic...:musicsmile:
Can't wait for tonight!
love love love love you Raja so much
vinatha.
The scene from Reservoir Dogs comes to my mind. Avlo mOsamA? kEttu remba nAl-Achu.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
the GUITAR, FLUTE/VIOLIN bgm/counterpoint of THEN POOVE POOVEY VAA.....ANBULLA RAJINIKANTH is a MAN MADE WONDER!
listen to the prelude & interludes...
Raja, you are very generous and affectionate with us.
Thanks, Raja.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYLnpaohxOo
romantic singing Bala and Janu.:musicsmile:
ஸ்ரீ.இளையராஜாவின் தீர்க்கமான பார்வையும், சாந்தமான சிரிப்பும் உள்ள இந்த visualதான் best.
EVER GLORIOUS 80S ILAYARAJA
vinatha
Listening to 'Manam Virumbude Unnai'. Lot of gems here.
Good songs, Thanks Mr.Suresh..
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'un kenda kaalu' from 'Karisakaatu Poove'. What an amazing folk song. Swarnalatha is terrific. The way he changes the melody at the charanam end is pure Raja. http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer...2'&lang=en
Actually, how many versions does Kanden Engum have? I know of 2 - Janaki and Teacheramma. There is a rumour about a Suseela version.
Thiraipaadal sadly has only Janaki version.
I have only Janumma's version.
Janu, ஜில்லுன்னு பாடுவோ ... longing mood, :musicsmile:
the BEST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4LUZmASUQM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDTwcogFH9Y
early Ilayaraja treasures are matchless!
AZHAGIYA KANNE......JANUMMA:musicsmile:
vinatha
Nee partha parvai (Hey ram) by Harmonize Projekt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRlGrO-xxmw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRlGrO-xxmw
Harmonize Projekt featuring Kalyani, Harshitha, Pradeep & Keba. Produced by Sujith Unnithan for Rosebowl. Directed by Sumesh lal, Visual mix supervision Ajan, Edited by Sanath, Jobin, Sudheesh, Janson Paul, DOP Vipin Chandran, Camera by Sujith, Pradeesh, Mahesh, Art by Suresh, Lights Cameo.
http://thiraipaadal.com/album.php?AL...R00383&lang=en
Grouch, is this the song in Mudhal Vasantham(Ponni Nadhi) you were referring to? Doesnt sound like Raja at all. Most certainly not the 80s Raja. Intriguing as you said
Listening to the title song of 'Karisakaatu Poove'. Lovely number. Infact all the numbers in this film are good.
While watching kudhirai of Mr Azhagarsamy, I thought the 'kudhikkiRa' number sounded very similar to 'indha poovukkoru arasan poovarasan'...did anyone else get reminded of the poovarasan?
BTW, sweet movie :-)
On Aiagirisamys Horse, I am still trying to remember the second interlude - I have it heard before exactly as it is. The flute piece towars the end of the interlude is what I am referring to
Hi vinitha mam, அடிக்கடி நல்ல நல்ல பாட்டா போடுரீங்களேனு பாத்தா, உங்க இருப்பிடம் San Jose! (இப்பத்தான் பாத்தேன்) 2008ல அங்க வந்தபோது El Camino Real ஒரு முனையிலிருந்து மறுமுனை வரைக்கும் உருண்டேன்! இப்ப எப்ப்டி இருக்குன்னு தெரியல, ராஜா ரசிகர்கள் தான் இங்கே ரெம்ப ஜாஸ்தி, ரசிகைகள் கம்மி, அதுவும் நீங்க நல்ல ரசனையோட உள்ள அபூர்வ ரசிகை! பேரெல்லாம் Western Classical பேரா வெச்சிருக்கீங்க, உங்களுக்கு Music Theory நல்ல பரிச்சயமா!. தொடரட்டும் உங்க சேவை, வாழ்த்துக்கள்! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by baroque
இப்படியெல்லாம் சொல்லி இருக்குற ஒன்னு-ரெண்டு ரசிகைகளையும் பயமுறுத்துறது தான் உங்க உத்தேசமா? :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
sakala,
yeah...just returned home driving by El camino real, Sunnyvale this lunch hr.:)
oh.. my name 'baroque'...
ellam my love for Raaja's music.
second interlude of chinna kannan azhaikiran.....janu's version, I love it.
CSR was telling me, it is Baroque style.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSTulKnpD6c
Remember, Ilayaraja yahoo group CSR was posting WCM theory...
அவர் தான் கொஞ்சம் மூளைய வளத்துக்கோ என்று theory சொல்லி கொடுத்தா.
Whatever I know little.. ellam Vel, my brother-in-law, CSR, Kiru (he posts in tfmpage), Dhool boys JAZZ theories etc..உபயம்.:ty:
So.. right or wrong whatever I post here is their teachings, if I am wrong, Blame it on the teachers!:grin:
Usha is a girl.
I think thumburu is also a girl.
Usha(CSR's sister), thumburu etc.. know everything.
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Let me post
MANJAL VEYIL MAALAIYITTA POOVE..........EARLY ILAYARAJA TREASURE
to all those guys for sharing their passion and educated me. :ty:
enjoy the polyphonic composition of Ilayaraja's
violin, guitar, flute, veena..... that was then
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GchSIkLzEas
guitar , keyboard, female chorus.......this is now.... Nandhalala.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHTjC...eature=related
vinatha.
ஒண்ணு இவங்க. அந்த ரெண்டாவது ரசிகை யாருன்னு சொன்னீஙன்னா அவங்க கிட்ட, இங்க உள்ள பெங்களூர் கமர்ஷியல் ஸ்ட்ரீட்டில் என்ன பண்ணேன்னு சொல்லிட்டு கெளம்பிடுவென் அம்புட்டுதேன்!Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
வினிதா மேடம், கொஞ்சம் தான் தெரியும்னு சொல்லிட்டு நிறைய தகவல்கள் சொல்ரீங்க, கலக்குங்க! அந்த தியரி பாடமெல்லாம் இப்பவும் யாஹூ குரூப்பில் விவாதிக்கிறார்களா?!?
I am VINATHA.
என் பெயர் வினதா :grin:
YAHOO ILAYARAJA GROUP FELLOWS ARE ELITE GUYS.
OF COURSE, THEY WILL BE ALASI EDUTHTHU ILAYARAJA SANGEETHAM :-D
come on....
in tfmpage, dhool forums too,
most of these guys are very well informed and passionate.
Kiru, Jai etc... posts are amazing.
B'lore, I have lived at Malleswaram too.
gorgeous sampige road....nostalgia
see the photos of nostalgic street.
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Please tell us what you did at commercial street?
Hope it is juicy!:grin:
Back to Ilayaraja sangeetham...
PACHAMALAI POOVU NEE ......KIZHAKKU VAASAL
இளையராஜா's folk composition
ஸ்ரீ.பாலா adores the heroine (புல்லாங்குழல் , கிடார் counterpoint )
பச்சைமலை பூவு.... charming , adorable கார்த்திக் :swinghead:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvJvY15CJ1Q
vinatha
Well, I'd still want to know about PS and VJ version of Kanden Engum - SJ should be enough as Baroque says, especially since Teacheramma isn't exactly a right-fit for the song, and the PS version is only a rumour I have heard so far but I am greedy if IR had different arrangements for the other version(s).
T
Last song to catch my fancy:
vurukulayi godavari from Abhilasha.
Abhilasha, I have always neglected as a poor cousin of Challenge, what with Yendamuri, Chiranjeevi and the director(whose name I forget) combining yet again.
It doesn't help that the primary memory I took away on first watch were, well, Radhika in tights, Silk-Smitha-ish thigh-cut skirts pop-dancing away with the unruly mop-ped Chirugaaru, with his trademark (weird for non-fans, genius for fans) dancing moves.
Radhika - for all her general acting talent - isn't really my idea of a glamorous pop-star, a role she simulated again for Kannan vandhu paadugindran, thereby spoiling the song for me.
Therefore, I suppose I can be excused for mentally mapping Abhilasha as that album with Chiru-with-his-gymnastic-tricks "banti chamanti" and Radhika-prancing-for "vela paala ledhu"(in tamil SPS crooned this tune as "aadai kondu aadum" for some other movie - not, I think, a remake of this one).
When you assume like that, it is only natural that you end up as what they say happens to you and me when we assume.
So, then, this song shoots like a meteor into my life recently. I have heard it before - just not paid enough attention.
It is a grand number, with wind instruments ruling the roost raising images of wind-surfing on a placid river. One true test of Raja songs for eternal life is what we in this parts have put together as "escalating melody". I am not sure who coined it(I fancy it might have been myself) but it describes the song perfectly.
The grand wind-instrument opening leads to SPB, joyfully, as he only can, crooning the opening lines with mirth and excitement. As Janaki joins with a fitting riposte, SPB moves into heart-warming territory with "...shruti telupe murali", Janaki returns that with interest in "chigurakku...siri muvva ravali".
So far so good. Like a Fed-Nadal point, robust exchanges. Then SPB delivers the knock-out punch with an intoxicating, dreamy "rasa mayam jagathi".
But the real matter lies in the saranams. As I mentioned, it is here that the escalating melody shows up. It is one of those SPB-only-possible moments, as the tune, like a Anil Kumble floater, takes very minor twists and turns, and each turn holding a very subtle emotion. It is far tougher, as countless batsmen from the 90s will agree, to face up to such minor variations than with the big-turning, clearly demarcated emotional roller-coasters.
Thus goes SPB
naa pEdha hridayam // Robust declaration, but a typical lover-ish self-pitying reference to "my poor heart"
nee prema nilayam // "is your playground for Love". Moon-struck offer. The tune is same as previous line but you have to show a shift in the emotion
nAdhaina brathukE E nAdO nIdhainadhi // The subtle breaks SPB uses to punctuate this sentence are breathtaking - nA...dhainA brathukE..pause..E nAdO... is sheer genius at work. ("My life became yours ere long")
neevanna manushE I nAdu nAdhainadhi // Wonder, and joy at the culmination of the love and togetherness.
And here again, SPB has a knock-out punch to finish the stanza:
oka gundE AbhilAshA
padhi mandhikki brathukainadhi.
I just cannot get enough of the last two lines as SPB packs so much into them - I am infact, so broken down in emotion and sheer amazement at the art, that I would need the help of those reading this to listen to the song and help me list down what all SPB covered in those two lines. (suresh, raagas - pls help with links)
Intriguing lines, too. Until now, it is a personal ballad speaking of their love. These lines really raise my curiosity?
oka gundE AbhilAshA
padhi mandhikki brathukainadhi.
- "One heart's desire gave life to 10 people"
Why would it, I mean? Is he referring to the living made by sundal-wallahs, bribe-taking policemen, cinema halls selling tickets etc as among the 10 people who make a living from a heart's desire, as they do benefit from lovers' desire to be together?
Nah! More likely a reference to the film's theme, I guess. Raagas/suresh can throw more light.
Abhilasha is about a young lawyer, trying to highlight a loophole in the law, in a bid to legislate it out of the law-book. He arranges a fake murder, planning, reasonably enough, that he'll go through the legal rigmarole, and eventually, reveal all in the film's climax, thereby exposing the loopholes in the law. Only, the fake murder turns out to be anything but fake and he is forced to be on the run.
Would those lines, then, refer to the hero's desire to abolish this loop-hole in the law, which presumably, would benefit atleast 10 people?
Not really sure, and not really sure why such a sentiment makes its way to a love-duet.
Such, then, are the pleasures of Raja-triggered nostalgia, thought-coordination, and musings.
I'll leave you without a link(which will surely materialise soon if I know my suresh/raagas well enough as I presume I do) but with SPB, bringing his full hand of magic tricks, lapping my ears with wave after wave of the addictive, escalating melody
Appapa Tittikkum (Japanil Kalyanaraman, yes it's terrible film, but I like it Plum. Accept it!).
Superb jazz number, twanging bass line, blaring trumpets, SPB's Raja-styled scatting. Song that I'd use if I were to make an action movie, and during a chase/shooting scenes.
Well, you like weird stuff, grouch. So, I am not suprised.
But the song of the movie is the contemplative, intoxicating "kaadhal un leelaiya", which I guess wasnt picturised
Chinna Poo Chinna Poo?
grouch, while you are here, can you answer this also?Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Is that Ponni Nathi? AthAne ketten. It's an odd one out. You say doesn't sound like Raja at all? I say sounds like late 70s Raja. Alongside, Anbukku Nan Adimai time Bala's voice. My theory is, tossed out recording that Raja dug back for Mudhal Vasantham.
Plum,
Interesting write up on Urakalai Godavari: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYYChWqULbY
You were bang on about the film's story and trust me, it is one of the brilliant films made at that time. It is also one of those films where Chiranjeevi acted with sincerity towards the character and not as a slave to the mass audience (as later films were). So in the film, Hero meets the Heroine through her Uncle, who is a very big lawyer and Chiranjeevi(advocate) is like an Ekalavya sishya to heroine's uncle. The heroine is naturally impressed with the hero's sincere charms and his conviction to achieve his goal. So in a way, the hero found his partner in his journey towards his goal.
Abhilasha (~ Desire) was/is a mixed bag for me. No matter how many people rave about Banti Chamanti, I never got to like that song, because of shrieky pitches. The songs that i love are Urakalai Godavari and Vela Paala Ledhu. Vela Paala Ledu deserves a huge post - lets leave it for now.
Urakalai Godavari is a fine melody. Brilliant instrumentation too! Listen to the cascading 2nd interlude and it is all magic. The song also has wonderful lyrics. Genius of Veturi at work there! and if there is one line that has a mixed impact of geniuses of both IR and Veturi, it is "Rasamayam Jagathi". Lyrically - it nails the emotion. Musically, it is an odd(by metre,comparing with preceeding lines) and yet convincingly composed line.
Coming to "Oka Gunde Abhilaasha.. padhi mandhiki brathukainadhi" line - it is a philosophical masterstroke by Veturi. I think Vetrui indeed used it to reflect the hero's character. See the lines "Naa Peda hridhayam" (my poor heart) - has both connotations. One - my poor heart and in a way, by the choice of words, it also reflects the social status of the hero. And while the subsequent lines talk about they exchanging their lives/personalities(neevu anna manishey ee naadu naadhi ayinadhi = That which are you...has now become mine) , in love... Veturi also reminds that a part of his personality is consumed by this desire (abhilasha) and since he found the heroine also... through his journey towards that desire - it has now become a part of her... and what can it now lead to - "Oka Gunde Abhilasha.. padhi mandhiki brathukainadhi" (The desire of a heart is now to bestow life upon few people).
Well written.. and brilliantly composed song.
The number of brilliantly written songs, in Ilaiyaraaja compositions in Telugu - are actually few. I mean, out of 100 good songs, I would say about 20-25 would have had good lyrics and the credit goes to Veturi and Sirivennela (i dont know if Rajasri wrote original songs but he wrote for dubbed versions and he was good too). This song is one among them!