Does anyone know if the making of NEPV will be released as DVD, or if the BGM alone is going to be released by GVM?
Does anyone know if the making of NEPV will be released as DVD, or if the BGM alone is going to be released by GVM?
Looks like 'chinnappayal' has become a darling of all the siRu idhazhkaL :lol2:
He reviewed NEPV music in his blog and 'uyirmai' reproduced it.
Then keetRu did the same.
Now it's the turn of thiNNai to do the same :-)
My writeup on 'ennodu vaa vaa': http://onlyraja.wordpress.com/2012/0...-ponvasantham/
Sweet article, Sureshji!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
I remember you posting the 'retro' thingy right when the teaser got posted in youtube. So, you're the pioneer on the net to start this 'retro' thingy :-)
(pAvam sambandhamE illAma indha Singer Srini vandhu adhukku adi vAnguRaru :lol2:)
mudhal muRai Telugu version (by Sunithi again)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5OTKTnaDdo&feature=plcp
Ha Ha Ha. So you are saying I should be the one who should be getting the brickbats :DQuote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Plum,Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
if I used the word "dated" here, i certainly did not mean it in negative sense but just meant that "the song makes us feel retro because the tune's playfulness is reminiscent of Raaja-SPB romantic songs in 80s".
I now have to revisit Kasthoorimaan. The only song that really registered (in a big way) in my mind when I heard Kasthoorimaan was "Nethivaraku" sung by Sujatha. A lovely light-mood Pahadi. Have to listen to this song you have referenced now.
PS: I dont understand tamil; somehow decoded your post but :-) thanks to lot of english.
Aakarsh,. sorry about the tamil so let me indulge you now (at the cost of others except suresh)
nEnu aduguthunnadhi evitantE:
"Dated" ani chebuthE EdhO peddha kuRRalA annatam lEdhu nEnu. nEnu anEdhi evitantE, ee "dated" anE feel mee andhariki elA kadhuluthnnadhani. udhArAnikki theeskuNTE, 90s-lo Malayalamlo Ravindran mash, Johnson mash andharu chEsina musicni analyse chEsthE, vaatini Dated aNTArA? vaatini vinnappudu eppudu A dated anE angle nAkku anupincha lEdhu. kAni, oka ragangA meeru andharu dated ani cheputhindhi evitani nenu guess chEsEdhi correct aithE, vaatini kooda meer andharu dated antAru? CorrectnA?
asalu music vintunappudu I angleLo choodadam mee andhariki elA sAguthunnadhani nA prashnam
dhAniki oka ragangA ardhamayEthattu samAdhAnam ichAru - kAni inkA nAkku poorthigA arthamkAvatam lEdhu.
maLLI idhE prashnam vERE vidhangA aduguthAnu. prasthAniki salavu theeskuntunAnu. dhanyavAdhAlu!
And vinandi vinandi, thappakonda KasthoorimAn vinandi. chAlA manchi pAttalu unnAyi. Enani kEtkum dheenikki (mudhal murai) precursor aithE, kEkkalaiyO kEkkalaiyO ani oka kOlAttA stylelo melody koodA undhi.
kAni Tippu kastha dhaarananga padAdu. adhE O minus point. ainA oka sAri vinAndi. Regret cheyyaru
Are they playing 80's/early 90's school students?
avvalavu oldA irukka maataangannu nenaikkaren :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-glove
avvalavu oldA irukka maataangannu nenaikkaren :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-glove
Could be. But you do know that Surya played a late 80's student in VA?
In saying that, I mean I wouldn't be surprised to see Jeeva and Samantha standing in for real life Gautham and his early love interest. Isn't he a 80's boy?
Also, one could be forgiven for saying it has that 'feel'. It's quite possible that GM asked Raaja to get that feel, but Raaja does have a lot of fun here, which makes it seem quite ageless on subsequent listening.
But few new ids seem to show up mysteriously to plainly undermine/dismiss it as dated.
The "Tharunam Tharunam" sudden in-flush (overfilling the sandham, as someone pointed out, and someone wondered if it was poor lyric writing in action) in Vaanam mella:
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"Tharunam Tharunam" creates a feeling as if someone is plucking a guitar, if you see what I mean.
The Choir portion in the prelude definitely revives many school memories and vividly paints my primary school's playground in my mind. I expressed this straight away when I heard this number. http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthrea...l=1#post943870Quote:
Originally Posted by V_S
So maybe GVM had some intention behind keeping it as BGM in this setting. However, this song equally demands a lavish picturisation otherwise I feel it may hinder the approach of this song compared to the rest of the numbers after the movie's release. Any clips or idea of how other songs have been shot? We have come to know EVV is shot on the bus (?)
GVM has overlaid the song with dialogues (looking at the Vaanam Mella song), thereby taking away the amazing interludes.. Why can't they pause.. and then play :) I hope the rest of the songs are not given the same treatment!
Atlast soaking up in the Lost Paradise of Raja's divine rhythms and tunes!.
I need to point out one thing (I would still say that Raja is the greatest of tamil kalaingnars)..Raja has neglected the importance of lyrics, poetic words and such, for the songs in this album. That is one standing out jarring note in this..
"irubathu nilavukaL nagam engum oLi vidum...hey hey..iLamaiyin kanavukaL vizhiyOram sudar vidum......" - the lyrics enhanced and beautified Raja's music earlier...he needs to add that Magic again.
You dont need a vairamuthu to do that...there are enough great lyricists around..the problem seems to be - Raja's conviction to avoid poetic lyrics.
Ramya NSK's short interview in which she speaks about her experience working with IR on NEPV. Apparently, including the two songs from this album, she has recorded 9 songs with him. Interesting!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4tJn...feature=relmfu
+1 for Geno point.
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Originally Posted by Plum
Telugu chinchaaru :-D
Lets ignore the word "dated" for a moment because when I am using it, I am intending to map the song to a specific time-line in Raaja's career (which is 80s in this case). What I am trying to say is - the style of tune and the treatment reminds of songs in a certain timeline.
For example: When Kaatre Konjam first came in soundcloud link, I felt it's melody had shades of "Unnai Thedi" (hariharan sang it, which film?) married to the melody in KJY-Raaja-Balu Mahendra songs. Now if i listen to Unnai Thedi today, I really feel that it has same melodic quality (melodic pinnacle) as some of the best Raaja songs in 80s. Just that when Unnai Thedi came in 2000, the groovy backgrounds made me feel its a fantastic fusion (which it is) while back then, my mind couldnt map it in "hey, the melody of this song is so golden era of raaja kind". I enjoyed that song in 2000, in a different perspective and today, I enjoy it with a different perspective. This harking back - in terms of the "kind of melody" - is where this operative word "dated" coming up for most people, although I hate to use this word because of negative connotations. which is why I conveniently say "makes me go retro".
Another example:
Vaanam Mele: The generic syntax of this song makes me feel that I can rank this song among "Oli Tharum", "Yaarum Thodaatha". The philosophy of Raaja in all these songs, has been more or less same (that all are sung by Raaja-female singer further makes us feel so). The extensive string orchestra work, a repetitive melodic phrase that stamps onto hummability quotient, gentle feel melody etc. I might not be using the word "dated" here, because these songs are recent... but if I have to indicate the "kind of song" that Vaanam mele is.. I will have to point people to these songs, harking back to a specific time-period (in this case, its recent, which thankfully eliminates the specific word dated). That said, I am not undermining the beauty of Vaanam mele. As I have expressed before, I personally lean more towards Mudhal Murai, Satru Munbu, Kaatre Konjam and Pengal endral because they are giving me a totally new experience while Vaanam mele is giving me a familiar experience.
Looks like decent response in Telugu Desam too
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After struggling for a decade to give peppy numbers to Telugu audience with
movies like, Anumanaspadam, Om Shanti, Mallepuvvu and Gaayam 2, Maestro scored
hits with a couple of songs, but youths never connected to them. Now he is back
with a bang and his latest 'Yeto Vellipoyindi Manasu' is a chartbuster with
grooving numbers and heart grinding extravaganzas. The Nani-Samantha starrer
under Gautham Menon's direction will be a treat for music lovers for now, as
Ilayaraja is at his best.
Critics are saying that Ilayaraja has finally connected to the hearts of 2012 youths and
there seems no stopping for him. While the whole Indian musicians are on one
side, Maestro is on other side. Get ready to get mesmerized by his music guys!
Looks like IR used the services of this production unit.. and guess what, it's their first venture.
http://www.angloindianmusic.com/index.htm
http://www.angloindianmusic.com/TEST...S(2692448).htm
Great, thanks for sharing this. As IR says I hope they work with him again and again.Quote:
Originally Posted by sivasub
yeah..thanks for sharing! warm smiles from both!:ty:
Understand where you are coming from..but to me vaanam mella except for the vocals is classic WCM in the whole of NEPV . Especially the interludes, Oboe usage is more and more of Bach styleQuote:
Originally Posted by aakarsh
For those who have some classical music int., Katrai konjam is a lovely melody set to Sankarabaranam ! R2 , G3 , M1 and D2 are dominant throughout the song but the charanam ends at D1 which is unShankarabaranamish !! That’s why the song is so melodious and attracts everyone on first hearing itself .IR is a mysterious guy when it comes to Carnatic classical ! However, I reserve my comments on Hindustani prowess.
/Digression to KasthoorimaanQuote:
Originally Posted by Plum
You are right. Ennai Ketkum is sort of precursor to Mudhal Murai, except that the synth percussions level is a tad higher thus resulting in a sort of higher degree of "Pop"-isation of the song, compared to Mudhal Murai. And yes, why Tippu!!!! Royally screws the feel in the composition! Pch!:idontgetit: This song is set in Simhendramadhyamam! why did Raaja give this beautiful composition to Tippu! Dear Raaja, why such indiscreet attitude towards the vocals in this otherwise brilliant composition?
kekalayo is also good! sounds like Suddha Dhanyasi to me! Tippu sounds better in this song than in Ennai Ketkum!
//digression ends
No one can dislike 'mudhal muRai pArththa gnAbakam'
At the max, people can say 'idhu rAsA pAttu mAthiri illai' etc :-)
The strings (esp. cello) manadhai rambam koNdu aRukkum vallamai koNdavai...
app,
I heard the Telugu version of 'mudhal murai' yesterday (the one you posted.) First impression, probably Tamil lyrics are better. Yet to hear any other song in Telugu.
NEPV on loop..
Pudikkala maamu - man that funny crazy second interlude is cruelly short - the way it was shaping up... really exhilarating..
and what a funky post lude!! superb stuff this..
all over ppl are saying that 'King has returned' I keep asserting - He was there all along - just now ppl woke up to the cheap imitations they have
been worshipping all these days.
இதுக்கு இன்னொரு அர்த்தம் இருக்குன்னு நினைக்கத் தோணுதுங்க. பெண்கள் என்றால், முதல் முறை பார்த்த போன்ற பாடல்களின் குரல் உணர்வு வெளிப்பாடுகள் மக்களுக்கு கடந்த பத்து பதினைந்து ஆண்டுகளாக கொஞ்சம் பழகிடுச்சி. அதனால் அந்த நீரோட்டத்தில் ராஜாவும் இப்போ கலந்துகிட்டார் என்றும் என்னோட சில நண்பர்கள் சொல்றாங்க. அவர்களின் அந்தப் பார்வையும் சரியே.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaiganes
Voted for 6/8, all the middle ones. I have started liking peNgaL enRaal too, but Yuvan is absolutely horrible in this.
In one sense, yes - i.e. featuring in a TF of better commercial recognition after a very long time (unlike 'off-from-mainstream-movies', made more for curiosity etc like NK / NL / AK)!Quote:
Originally Posted by jaiganes
NEPV is the biggest in TF for IR, after virumANdi...
Ennaathidhu? 201 pages 195 pages aagiduchu
I have to say - Raaja eppavume indha 'neerottathula' irundhukittu dhaan irukkaar. 2000s he even deployed 'malathi' in manmadha raasa mode in couple of movies. plus this view on 'westernised female' voice in vogue - Raaja was the pioneernga. Rewind to 'Usha utup' in anjali or Malgudi shabba in Nadodi thendral. neengallam ippathaan muzichu irundhu kekkureengaa (or jangallaam ippadi market panninaa dhaan kekkuraanga).Quote:
Originally Posted by venkkiram
My writeup on 'Satru Munbu': http://onlyraja.wordpress.com/2012/09/10/234/
With this I have written about all the songs :) First time I am doing this for any album. And I think this album deserves the special attention we are giving it. I plan to write one more post on the overall album and the challenge Gautam has. (Hopefully I will do it tomorrow) After that I am planning to resume the normal service in #Raja90s. Who knows, we may get some clue of NEPV there as well. With Raja everything is new and everything is something he has already done !!!!
+infinity. Since NEPV is getting attention, many people think Raja has just now joined the mainstream and trend. The latest example being Paa, Suryakanthi, Ponnar Shankar. How many of them listened to these songs. Sutthama maranthutaanga. Most of all, in thamizh he was never given such chance recently in big movies having this kind of subject. He has been doing this all the time, but summarily dismissed just based on the movie, IR's name and its reach. When now Gautam gets IR, suddenly everyone started listening to him and praising him.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaiganes
Don't know if you are referencing a similar comment I made about the lyrics in the original review of mine. I like it when those notes repeat with different lyrics at the end of second saranam. I'm still not convinced about "Tharunam, Tharunam" :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Fantastic! Fantastic! Suresh ji. :clap: :clap: :clap: You have brought in that atmosphere right into your writing. The biggest surprise in this song apart from that stunning mood and brilliant orchestration in WC is, as I mentioned earlier that how he incorporates opera style melody. Normally opera is sung in chorus which gives that theatrical/dramatic effect. This effect is only achievable with choir, as the depth of singing can be heard clearly. We can feel the drama in the tune itself. But here, Maestro achieves that with a female solo alone. Choir comes only during second charanam and in the last pallavi to give that dramatic effect. Before that, the main tune is itself composed in opera style. In every line there is a dramatic twist, goes high and immediately low, then high. All these are the distinguished features of opera. The prelude starts in a dramatic fashion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
We can see how the melody varies greatly between every line, giving that dramatic touch.
nenjam thudippathum minnal adippathayum sol
oh ho.. unnai pirithida ennai erithu nee sel (beautiful!)
ellam nee poi endru solvaaya? oh.. ho..
and in charanam..
thEngi pona oru nadhiyena indru naanada..!!
thaangi pidikka un thOLgaL illaiyE
thananthani kaattil indha kaadhal vaada
Especially the last line above, thananthani kaatil indha kaadhal vaada which is very high followed by sudden drop to satru munbu. :notworthy:
kaainthu pona en kannathil vannam malarumaa?
theintha vennilaa thirumba valarumaa?
thottu thottu paesum unthan kaigal yenge?
Wonderful lyrics!! :clap:
That second interlude and the finishing as you said, Bloody hell! Totally insane stuff!! You finished it brilliantly, 'The most uncompromsing song of the album'. :thumbsup: