Is TAMIL derived from SANSKRIT ?
In Continuation of the last posting....
The group of Islands presently called as SINGAPORE was originally a Tamilian Settlement. Here too it was partly dry or fallow and partly with dense forests. Ancient Tamilians have developed and enriched it as Agricultural Lands and named the SINGAPURI in Tamil. Subsequently the Malayan King took over from them.
There is also an opinion that the Malayan King who first took over the throne was factually born to a Tamilian-King-father (of that country) and a Chinese Mother (One of the King's several wives)
The present regions of Indonesia, Singapore and Malaysia was One unified Tamil- Country, named MALAAYAA ruled over by a Tamil King of Chozha dynasty, under the Chozha Emperor.
Is Tamil derived from Sanskrit?
[quote="Nedunchezhiyan"]
//KAMBAN.... What is the root of the Word 'Kamban?//'
It is purely a Tamil word. "Kambam" means Thoonh (Pillar in English).
One who has come out of a Kambam is "KAMBAN".....
... Similar to the one indulging in "VAMBU" is called "VAMBAN"... and...
.... the One who is indulging in "Kallham"(Theft) is "Kallhan" (Thief)
KAMBA-NAADU was a Sitrarasu under Chozha Kingdom, in the name of Lord Narasimha to whom the King of the Land was much devoted.
That is why Vaishnavites used to denote Kambar as KAMBA- NAATTU- AAZHWAR even now-a-days. Kamban's Birth-lace Thaerazhundhoor is within Kamba- Naadu.
In some other regions too of Tamilnadu, people especially the Farmers, used to erect just a plain and Simple Wooden- Post (Kambu) in their Farm-land, tie a new cloth-piece, adorn with garland and worship it as the God Narasimha, just before commencing the Farmwork anew every year.
Is Tamil derived from SANSKRIT?
[Quote:"Nedunchezhiyan"]
// I appreciate your gratitude to Bharathiyar.... //
No doubt you have every right to have your own independant opinion contrary to mine about Bharathi. But we have to remember that British were the common Antagonists for the whole of Indian Union of those days including the so called Ceylon. So much more than the Gratitude, it is a matter of our Pride that Bhaarathi in spite of his absolute poverty and trying circumstances, had boldly raised his Voice against the Invaders in those crucial days of terror (unlike thousands of Cowards in high position bowing down as Slaves before a Dictator), as also a Far-sighted Visionary, Selfless crusader, Whole-hearted Patriot, Dedicated poet on Tamil, as also an Invincible Global Human. Tamilians all over the world must be proud of our Man Bhaarathi. If anybody under-rates that Great Human, means that he does not know that intellectual Thyaga-jothi properly.
//I do not wish to make this Literature form into a 'political discussion
Not only that there is no need for such as I am sure that you are aware of many things going in South Asia. The present and the past... The (H)Indian Government involvement in Eezha Thamizhars to the understanding of how the 'Indian Union' was before the Independance etc.//
You say you don't want to indulge in political discussion... whereas subsequently, ... all are your political discussions only..... Even though I have an authentic reply.... I am not interested to discuss here, since out of context..
//.... Not like some guy who went to the Thamizh King and sang, "maNpuLu mApiLLai..." because his wife told him to go and make money, and he got saved by the Head pulavar.... //
Yes. Most of the Pulavars of the ancient days were so, unlike the bold and self-respectful Kambar.
In confession one poor Pulavar sang....
"Pollaan oruvanai naan Nallaay yenraen
Poar muhathai aryaanaip puliyaerhu yenraen
Yellaam arhu vayitruk koozhukkuth thaan.
You may know that there is a Tamil Proverb....
"PIRIKKA MUDIYAADHAVAI ..... PULAMAIYUM VARHUMAIYUM"
Prior to Independance, there was no mention of the word EEZHAM anywhere in India .. but only YAAZHPAANHAM.... in those days. And even in all the Tamil Literatures too we find as ILANGAI only.
Kamba Ramayanam says as ILANGAI- Vaendhan Raavanhan. only....
Tamil-Prabandham says, which MS Subbalakshmi has sung as...
" ILANGAI PUKKU.... AARAAVAMUDHANAI....
The word EEZHAM... suddenly became popular all over Tamilnadu.... When & How?... Tamilians of Tamilnadu came to know just recently... after the British days and expiry of Bharathi... only when Thiru Kuttimanhi was callously tortured and put an end inhumanly.
Anbaarndha Nedunchezhiyan, I am able to realise your hurt heart and wounded feelings... caused despite NO FAULT of you the innocent and good-hearted people.
But in this context... one thing you must remember. During the British days, so to say while Bharathi was alive.... it was called Indian-Union comprising of the regions of the present India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Burma and Srilanka (Ceylon),under one control of British Viceroy at New Delhi in India. Within this Indian Union people were free to move about anywhere without any restriction. Whereas now, a Tamilian from Tamilnadu is not able to feel free to go to his adjacent Jaffna for meeting his Tamilian brother, whereas he is free to go to Andaman, because both these far off lands fall within one country.!!!
So Bharathi did not consider Yaazh-thamizhar different from the India-Thamizhar. We have to think through his vision of the Time.
Bharathi says.... Vilhaiyaadi varuvoam... Paalam amaippoam.... Veedhi samaippoam... Payir seyhuvoam.... etc...
Whom does he mean behind all these -OHMS? Who are that WE?....
He means all the TAMILIANS including You and I...!!!
Non-Tamilians in India and Srilanka.... he means as.... OTHERS!!!