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Originally Posted by nickraman
"one millionukkey indha mukkaa?" (in the style of "single kisske loveaa") - how much do Indian films make in the US to be considered a success?
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Originally Posted by nickraman
"one millionukkey indha mukkaa?" (in the style of "single kisske loveaa") - how much do Indian films make in the US to be considered a success?
Happy to hear about the box office collections and other stuff. Nalla padam jeyikkum. Kamal Haassar has been proving this for ages !!
But we really wanted the thread to go back to the nuances discussion. Edhuvume nadakkadhadhu pola ennala nadikka mudiyadhu. This thread is slowly being highjacked.
Where is Doctor-sir, Anban, and other Sagas? Could we please have them back? Can someone please give a reasonable explanation at least :(
2nd time night show @S2 perambur. occupancy was around 90%. lots of family among audience.
Uthaman meeting the princess in the dungeon was chopped off.
This time, I could really feel the performance by thalaivar. Subdued yet powerful. just wondering why manoranjan had to give the letter thru chokku when he could have simply eloped with yamini. Did he willingly sacrifice her for career ?
Finally managed to watch the film last night. Honestly, I didn't have any intention to watch the film but some unforeseen circumstances led me to watch the film. And how wrong i was in assuming the film will not be my cup of tea!
Kamal, take a bow!! பிறவிக்கலைஞனய்யா நீர். And i think they have swapped the title of Kamal's last two films. This film should've been titled 'Vishwaroopam'. The actor and story writer in Kamal has took giant strides in UV. And he stands tall among the great artistes like MS Bhaskar, Nasser, Urvasi, etc.
I dont know what wrong people found with Uttaman Kadhai. It was good and for people who've listened to Villupaattu before, the simple tale of Uttaman will be very appealing.
படித்ததில் பிடித்தது....
நீங்கள் ஏன் கண்டிப்பாக உத்தமவில்லன்
பார்க்க வேண்டும்?
இந்தப்படத்தை தவற விடக்கூடாது என்று நான் நினைப்பதற்கு காரணம் நமக்கும் மரணமுண்டு என்பதை மறந்து மனிதர்களோடு உறாவடுவதை நாம் தள்ளிப்போட்டுக்கொண்டே போகிறோம். அதைப்பற்றி படம் யோசிக்க வைக்கிறது.
சாதிக்கிற வேகத்தில் சம்பாதிக்கிற
வெறியில் உடன் உள்ள உறவுகளின்
உணர்வுகள் நமக்கு புரிவதில்லை. அதை
கொஞ்சமாவது இந்தப் படம்
உங்களுக்கு புரிய வைத்துவிடும்.
கமல் இந்தப்படத்தை கொஞ்சம் தள்ளி
வைத்திருந்தால் கே.பி இதில் நடித்திருக்க முடியாது.
இப்படித்தான் நம் வேலைகளை காரணமாக வைத்து அப்பாவோடு மனம்விட்டு பேச முடியாமல் மனைவியோடு சிரிக்க முடியாமல் குழந்தைகளோடு விளையாட முடியாமல் என பல உறவுகளை நாம் கொன்று கொண்டிருக்கிறோம்.
சினிமாவில் கமல் செய்வதைப்போலவே
சாகப்போகும் நாம்தானே சாகாதவன்
பாத்திரத்தில் நடித்துக்கொண்டிருக்கிறோம்.
நாளை செய்து கொள்ளலாம்
என்று நாம் அதிகம் தவறவிடுவது மனித
உறவுகளைத்தான். நாமும் இறப்போம். நம்மைச் சுற்றி உள்ளவர்களும் இறக்கப் போகிறார்கள். அதற்குள் கொஞ்சம்
வாழ்ந்துவிடுவோம் என்பதை படம் அழகாகவே சொல்கிறது.
கமலுடைய வாழ்க்கைதான் கதையோ என்று பிரமைதட்டுகிற அளவுக்கு கமல் வாழ்க்கையோடு பொருந்திப்போகிறது நடிகர் பாத்திரம் முதல் இயக்குநர் பாத்திரம் வரை. இப்படி ஒரு கதையை ஏன் தேர்ந்தெடுக்க வேண்டும் ?
கதையில் நடிகனுக்கு கடைசி படம். நிஜத்தில் இயக்குநருக்கு கடைசிப் படம்.
தேவையான அளவுக்கு சம்பாதித்து விட்டுஅதன் பிறகு வாழவேண்டும் என்று நினைக்கிற. பலர் அந்த எல்லைக்கோடு எங்கிருக்கிறது என்று
தெரியாததால் கடைசி வரை சம்பாதித்து
கொண்டு மட்டுமே இருக்கிறார்கள் வாழமலேயே..
பல நேரங்களில் அன்பை சொற்களில்தான் புரிய வேண்டியிருக்கிறது. ஆனால் எந்த
சொற்களையும் சொல்ல
நேரமில்லாதவர்களாக மாறிவிட்டோம்.
நீங்கள் ஏன் கண்டிப்பாக உத்தமவில்லன்
பார்க்க வேண்டும்?
ஒரே ஒரு காரணம்தான், அது மனித உறவில் உள்ள புதிர்களை பேசுகிறது..
அதை எப்படி வைத்துக்கொள்ள வேண்டும் என்று விளக்குகிறது..
மரணத்திற்கு பிறகு நாம் மனிதர்களுக்கு
விட்டுச்செல்லப்போவது நினைவுகளை
மட்டும்தான்.. அவை இனிமையாக
இருக்கட்டுமே..
இந்த அருமையான அனுபவத்தை தந்த கமலஹாசனுக்கு எது வேண்டுமானாலும் கொடுக்கலாம்.
தற்சமயம் நன்றி மட்டும்.
நன்றி கமல்ஹாசன்.
Hindu Newspaper Journalist
https://chennaikat.wordpress.com/201...-for-the-ages/
Uttama Villain: One for the ages
May 3, 2015 / Karthik Subramanian
*Pls don’t read this if you have not watched the film yet. Stop right here, and just go and watch the movie, and then read this* …
It will be cruel to review Uttama Villain as a sum of parts. How some sequences were nice, how one song was wonderful, how one particular scene was well shot …
Uttama Villain works as an absolute whole.
This is not even a review. It is more a post on how I experienced the movie, given my disposition at the time of watching it. I think that’s how most movies work with audience, and even the reviews I suspect have a lot to do with what state of mind the audience member is in. (I have been accused of praising some not so good movies before.)
That said, very few films have the power to alter the collective mood of an audience inside a hall, and take them along on a journey. I think Uttama Villain will be long remembered as one of the films that managed to do that.
I think every one knows by now that Uttama Villain is about the making of a movie.
The protagonist reigning Superstar Manoranjan is ailing from a critical condition. And even before we scorn on how cliched that is as a plot point, one of the main characters the veteran director Margadarisi mouths it: “Ada poda, intha kathaya naane neraya tharavai pannitene da” (Get lost, even I have made this story into film several times. Even you have made it four or five times.)
Manoranjan corrects: “Ithu kathai illa. Ithu nejam”. (This is not a story (for my film). It is the truth.)
Margadarisi’s countenance changes. “Ennada solre. Paavi. Nee chinna payyanda.” (What are you trying to suggest? You are a young fellow.)
Somehow, we have come to associate cinema as an entertainment medium that must only make us laugh or feel entertained. Stark emotions are for real life. But that is a more recent development, say in the last two decades maybe as far as Tamil cinema goes. K.Balachander always packed his films with raw emotions and strong characters.
And so begins the cinema within the cinema, where Manoranjan strives to entertain his audience in a manner that they have come to expect of him: as the folk artist Uttaman in a story set in the 8th century, in a fusion of Villupaatu (for sound) and Theyyam (for dance).
(It is indeed what we have come to expect of Kamal too. Such an impossible feat managed so easily. Here is an actor who writes such songs, speaks such Tamil, dances so many artforms, and yet sometimes bears the brunt of criticism spun from the trade pundits hankering over the Rs. 100 crore club.)
The folkstory is riddled with cliches but ones that are a part of our traditional form of story-telling: a conspiring evil minister who kills a king to take his place, and his greed that drives him to seek eternal life.
And the King’s deliverance is in the form of an actor, who tells him that while physical immortality is absurd and that true immortality lies in being an artist and a creator.
The King knows that he is not blessed with any skills for any arts, and opts for seemingly the most easiest: an actor. But what good is the King as an actor who cannot remember his own lines. Surely that is the end of any actor. And so the actor dies, twice when he realises that he no longer remembers his lines. (That’s a spoiler but you won’t get it unless you have watched the movie.)
The underlying theme of Uttama Villain that a true creator never dies is conveyed succinctly. The only place where the hero lives on is on the screen. There is nothing novel about the message, but it takes nothing short of the genius, and the madness, of Kamal in trying to take it to the most common denominator.
At a time when Tamil cinema seems to be in the danger of falling away from the revival led by young film-makers over the last decade, and when even the few good directors are just rehashing their old stories again and again, Kamal and Ramesh Aravind have delivered a gem.
Kamal the actor has again outdone himself, but more importantly Uttama Villain seems to be a case where the story-teller in him has reached a state of self-awareness. For long, he has strived to bridge the gap between cinema as an art form and as an entertainment medium. Uttama Villain is easily one of his best attempts at that.
The established actors, even young stars in Tamil films at least, like to play it safe. But Kamal stands out as the rarest of rare who has made risk-taking his safety net.
Somehow, if Kamal acts in a safe, masala-grade material, even his hardcore fans would feel a bit disappointed. As a hardcore fan myself, I did not like Vishwaroopam or Dasavatharam all that much.
Which is why I absolutely loved Uttama Villain.
And what can one say about the scenes featuring Kamal and K.Balachander. The dialogues seemed so serendipitous. Bravo!
On the actors and the technicians: all of them delivered Kamal-grade performance.
(I don’t want to go in to specifics about individual actors or technicians in this post. I might do that again, after watching Uttama Villain a second or a third time.)
https://chennaikat.wordpress.com/201...s-an-audience/
How invested are you as an audience?
Some years back, I made a conscious decision to stop watching too many films.
The way forward was to become more discerning while choosing what to watch.
I do watch the blockbuster, masala grade cinema and enjoy all the instant gratifications it throws at me by the way of song and dance, meaningless fights and cliched dialogues.
But a few times, ever so rarely, with something exceptional like Uttama Villain, I engage differently
And once I chose to watch a movie, once I have paid Rs.120 to find a seat at the theatre, I don’t think throw the burden of entertainment or engagement squarely on what I see on the screen. Having given myself a situation to enjoy something or maybe even experience the rare catharsis, I do my bit by getting involved too.
I wont fiddle with my mobile phone when the film is playing, send out tweets from my seat. Not unless, what unfolds is something really horrenduous but that is the part where one has to be discerning.
I would always give someone like Kamal Haasan the benefit that he would take me to some places emotionally, even if he has a success rate of say once in seven or eight films. But hey, almost every one else has a much poorer strike rate when it comes to that.
***
Uttama Villain is one of those rare films that managed to strike some chords.
Today, when I watched for a second time, I sat next to a guy who arrived at the hall twenty minutes late, and kept attending phone calls, none of which he would cut short. He did not even have the courtesy to keep his voice down or apologise to me. And he probably tweeted that the movie sucked once he got out.
Sometimes I feel, it is not the movie that fails, but the audience too.
What do you think?
How invested are you, as an audience?
Missed it !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by easygoer
I was thinking it was written at that time !
Fake letter? really?Quote:
Originally Posted by easygoer
Gr8..Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
:shock:
I don't think it is fake! :think:
Accolades are pouring in...
http://www.onlykollywood.com/duality...a-masterpiece/
Yes!!Quote:
Originally Posted by NOV
Atleast there must be a reason to believe its fake..
I asked the same question first. Now on second thought, I have reasons to think it could be fake.Quote:
Originally Posted by USV
This is Kamal for us - GREAT ! ! !
reason sollunga??Quote:
Originally Posted by pushpak
If you could connect the sequences, there are some strong reasons to believe it is fake.
1. When Jayaram opens up to kamal about his daughter, first he is not even ready to believe it. then, he slowly believes it and tell to jayram that, his film career was in the hands of his father in law and out of desire, he agreed to his commands whereas in the letter he has written to yamini, he would have written that he is ready to give up everything and move towards her.
2. Only when chooku reads the letter, kamal knows that Yamini was pregnant and his father in law and chokku threatened yamini with money and asked her to abort. Kamal uses this information to his advantage in the letter.
3. Yamini's letter will have a sentence as 'love of my life' and kamal's letter too have the same sentence. You can find both the letters have almost same words and structure...
mmm..logically right but still I am not convinced..perception differs always with kamal movies..sila vishayangal avarukku mattumae velichamQuote:
Originally Posted by easygoer
ஒரு வழியாக உத்தம வில்லன் படம் பார்த்தாகிவிட்டது.
படத்தை பத்தி என்னத்த சொல்ல - தாங்க முடில - முதல்ல கமல் ஹாசன் என்கிற ஒருத்தர புடிச்சு உள்ள தள்ளனும் - யோவ் இது உனக்கே நல்லருக்காயா? உனக்கும் உன்ன சுத்தி உள்ள அத்தன பேருக்கும் இடையே இப்படி ஒரு பெரிய பள்ளத்தை தோண்டி தோண்டி - என்ன அநியாயம் அக்கிரமம்… ரொம்ப வருஷமாவே இந்த அராஜகத்துக்கு அளவே இல்லாம நடந்துட்டிருக்கு - இனிமேல் நீர் படம் எடுக்கவே கூடாது - அப்படியே எடுத்தாலும், ஒழுங்கா தமிழ்/இந்திய சினிமா உலகத்துல உள்ளவங்க மூக்குல விரல வைக்காம - ஏதோ படம் பண்ணினோமா, ஏதோ காசு சம்பாதிச்சமானு இல்லாம, என்னையா இது?
ஒரு பக்கம், நடனத்துல grace, elegance - இதுல எல்லாத்திலையும் aesthetics! The first intro dance following the villupattu (NOT the horrendous embarrassment 'loveae loveaa" -NOV sir pls note - catch my point aa?) of the Uthhaman character, the final few minutes of "kaadhalaam kadavul munn" and the last choreography of "hiranya nadagam" - absolute feast for the eyes, and senses!
(NOV sir, even after watching such splendid fluidity in those dance sequences, if you still claim Kamal is not a natural dancer, I cannot help but feel sorry for you).
இன்னொரு பக்கம் - வெறும் பார்வையிலேயே ஆயிரம் அர்த்தம் தெரிந்தும் தெரியாமலும் புதைஞ்சு வச்சு - that one look after removing his makeup - when his daughter reads out the letter - I muttered "Jesus Christ" (US habit - no offence meant) - or his interaction with Chokku (wow what a performance from MSB!) - within a span of 10 seconds, the expression changes from puzzled, shocked to anger and then sorrow and then forgiveness!! மனித அறிவுக்கும் உணர்வுக்கும் பாலமாக the way he has used his skills!
Nassar - is there any role this man cannot do? his dialog delivery (ex "boodhangal aindhaa?" voice modulation and then "adhaikkuraithhukollakoodathaa?" - hilarious! the half full theater was roaring in laughter!) - dialogs were all notable even without Crazy Mohan's involvement - "padharaamal, udharaamal, sidharaamal" when Nasser is being taken in a palanquin to attend to an urgent matter - is an example).
குறைகள் - அந்தப் புலி ; in paleontology, we often hear about transitionary species - the tiger looked more like a mutated bobcat! maybe a nod to Ang Lee's Richard Parker tiger in 'The Life of Pi"?
கிப்ரான் இசையில் குறை இல்லையென்றாலும், உணர்ச்சி ததும்ப வேண்டிய இடங்களில் கோட்டை விட்டு விட்டார் - for ex: the scene where Kamal interacts with his son - dont get me wrong, call me biased, Isai Raaja would have elevated the already priceless scene to a different level!
likewise other scenes, such as the Kamal-Urvashi-Andrea hospital room, the UV Poster backdrop while Kamal-Andrea-MSB interact - இதெல்லாம் ராசாவுக்கு அல்வா சாப்படற மாதிரி - சரி இது என்ன மாதிரி விசிரிங்களுடைய அங்கலாய்ப்பு
Also Poosaa Kumar's take was just a tad bit annoying - could have been toned down..
I couldn't care less if this was/is meant to be some kind of a biopic depicting Kamal's personal life - who gives a sh*t if Kamal used tantex or pintex underwear - but what matters immensely is the stunning portrayal of a flawed star with an equally flawed series of attempts towards redemption after learning abt impending death round the corner - the story of redemption need not have to come knocking when death is round the corner; when Manoranjan tells his son 'it comes to everyone' he is subtly conveying 'redemption is a journey as much as life's end is an inevitability'..
இனிமே இந்த படத்துக்கப்பரமும் எந்த புண்ணாக்காவது அமீர் கான், அந்த கான் இந்த கான் - எல்லாத்தையும் கமலோட ஒப்பிட்டு பேசினா, "சாகவரம் போல் சோகம் உண்டோ" கதி தான்..
I cannot think of any other artiste, who has internalized his life experiences plus human interactions, et al, with his literary skills, knowledge - process them - and give expression to them in such a glorious fashion!
Overall, I ask for Kamal to be banned from cinema - either that, or the others around him make better use of whatever talents they have been gifted with - this man is just outrageous and audacious.
if the letter was fake then why did chokku tell Mano that he didn't deliver mano's letter to yamini as well ?Quote:
Originally Posted by USV
watched it again .. the neutral family crowd is actually enjoying those historical portions to an extent .. wherever, i saw, the movie is getting claps after it finished .. :clap:
.. its a good hit in A centres .. going decently in B centres .. C centres scope-e illa ..
The letter was not fake..
actual-a hub mela interest illa.. only some hubbers are genuine and worthy of any discussion at all ..Quote:
Originally Posted by goundar_strike
doctor-sir kaduppaayi, inge silara abuse pannittu ban vaangittu poyittaaru :(
"sir, namma ellorum sirikkira maathiri oru COMEDY padam pannanum sir.. "Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
this is the problem.. it raised expectations .. instead of "comedy padam", "santhosamaana oru padam"-nu sollirunthaa no problem at all ..
the problem was lingu idiot double sold the movie .. to financiers (in the event of not repaying the loans) and to EROS .. now thirupathi brothers have a big loan not only due to UV .. but they are also producing other movies like Idam porul eval, Rajni Murugan etc .. hence, the whole loan had to be cleaned up before UV's release.. EROS cunningly allowed international release but blocked indian release.. clear case of sabotage.. the EROS south incharge is a cunning, hopeless, stupid who is good for nothing.. EROS suffered heavily due to that foolish incharge already and now they are effectively out of TN market for good..
the first two day no-show incurred atleast 20 C loss .. damn .. but for that, this movie would have been a sure shot success already ..
[QUOTE=Anban;1224767]the EROS south incharge is a cunning, hopeless, stupid who is good for nothing.. EROS suffered heavily due to that foolish incharge already and now they are effectively out of TN market for good..
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True. I had said that long back. Her decisions are stupid. The debacle of a recent biggie can very well attributed to her decision making skills and for some reason she has not been pointed to.
It's not sure, whether chokku was the carrier of the letter. While exposing yamini's letter to manoranjan, chokku never said yamini gave the letter to him. She might have posted the letter to Manoranjan. Since, Rao was monitoring manoranjan closely, the letter would have reached his hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nachiketa
Also, rao along with chokku threatened yamini, if that's case, she would not have given the letter to chokku
When kamal speaks to jayaram, he would tell he has obliged rao only due to desire to make it big. He will never bring oorvasi's infatuation towards him or her suicide blackmail. This episode increases the suspicion that oorvasi's story in the letter could be a cooked up one.
In the 4th century episode, kamal would lie to mutharasan that he knows the immortality mantra out of desire to live. The same could be the situation in manoranjan's real life too...
[QUOTE=ajaybaskar;1224773]Sabotage beneath the veneer of stupidity ? Things are getting even more interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anban
irir123 - edhukku pazhaya vishayam ellaam - all done and dusted.
as mentioned earlier, I stand by what I said, the intro song is a karumpulli for a magnificient film - as a person who believes in "evil-eye" I am totally fine with it. :)
Happy to hear AB.. I thought you have watched earlier and not posted your review...Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
The word you used "பிறவிக்கலைஞனய்யா" is true indeed....
Lingu told in the press that Kamal has taken the overseas rights and as per the agreement, he can release it without any interference...Quote:
Originally Posted by Anban
it is very sad... somehow I missed to see those abusing posts... Is it not possible to approach admins and join again? not sure of the rules....Quote:
Originally Posted by Anban
Did anyone notice the analogy between Hiranyakasipu-Prahladhan-Hari and Manoranjan-Manonmani-Jacob Zachariah. Hiranyakasipu is the biological father to Prahladhan but he considers Hari to be the be all and end all of his life just like how Manonmani considers Jacob to be a hero and Manoranajan a villain. Hiranyakasipu joining Prahladhan mimics Manoranjan becoming the "Hero/father" to Manonmani.
Some of you may know that Srividya married a Christian after breaking up with Kamal !
No, You should be happy that you did not see those disgusting comments. You would have lost respect for someone you still have much respect. You should thank the admn for not showing those abusing comments to you. Ignorance is bliss!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cinemarasigan
miss panittome kavalai padra alavukuellam worth comments illai.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cinemarasigan
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Originally Posted by NOV
NOV - kuzhappadheenga - naan 'lovely love aa' paatta sollala - அதை முதல்ல கேட்கும்போதே டண்டணக்கா பாட்டுன்னு தெரிஞ்சு போச்சு
Am talking abt the dance that follows the villupattu followed by snake bite - andha dance is grace and elegance written all over it
Kamal or someone very very close to him is definitely reading these threads.
நான் புலம்பின புலம்பல் - "why can't he do something like those ordinary scenes between ordinary humans as in the Clint Eastwood-Hillar Swank conversation in a roadside cafe in 'Million Dollar Baby'"
அந்த புலம்பல் அவர் காதுல எட்டினா மாதிரி - this script is littered with very ordinary scenes elevated to monumental highs by exemplary acting and lines!
The movie did give the feel of a no hassles drama - no excess baggage - something we are not used to…wine is getting better with age!
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Originally Posted by Cinemarasigan
The film is way above BO status etc etc - Kamal once again leaves a huge rift between himself and the rest of his contemporaries/predecessors/next generation - instead of discussing that, ppl started questioning the BO validity of the film - things went from sour to ugly - from then on
@cinemarasigan -There r some ppl who didn't have respect from the beginning..we all know about RC and he will be respected by us...he is kamalhaasan best critic as well we all know..
as I said earlier padam release aanathukku apram vanthu selective comments padichi araiyum kuraiyuma purinjikuravanga kitta pesi prayajonam illai..