Thanks Vinod for all the details. Looks like a big and dedicated effort from you. Thanks for the original sample, will listen in the evening. Keep it going! :thumbsup:
:clap: Well said! I can imagine that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinodkumar
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Thanks Vinod for all the details. Looks like a big and dedicated effort from you. Thanks for the original sample, will listen in the evening. Keep it going! :thumbsup:
:clap: Well said! I can imagine that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinodkumar
Thanks KV...Quote:
Originally Posted by KV
SKV... I will do my best to list them..As far as the upsampling goes, you are correct that the CD format is 16/44.1. By upsampling it to 24/88 khz( its double the sampling rate), it is not going to extract anything new. What you hear is what you get. The big difference is that the DSP in some of the DAC's do perform better at higher sample rates. As a result, the song will be transparent (I guess separation of instruments...?) in some DAC's. Again, it depends on the DAC. If the signal source is not a good one, then the output will be terrible (all the abnormal sounds can be heard obviously). Since I play them though a Software Player, this Player has the ability to play the song in INTEGER/DIRECT mode. This is nothing but when the CPU does the calculation it will perform the calculation in INTEGER mode instead of FLOAT mode (again I do not have much knowledge in this area). As a result, less CPU resources are used which results in the sound quality being DAY (song played in ITEGER mode) and NIGHT (original CD version) difference. Again not all DAC's are INTEGER/DIRECT mode capable. You need a player which supports INTEGER/DIRECT mode and you need a DAC which can handle INTEGER mode. The quality of such songs are way better than the original ACD. I hope I'm not confusing people here... The sample from Selvi was recorded with that mode enabled. Since 44.1 * 2 = 88.2 (its multiples of 2) and so, the CPU takes the 44.1 upsamples tto 24/88.2 and feeds the DAC (since its upsample of 2, there is less CPU processing and so the sound quality is exceptional). The DAC sets its sample rate to match the sample rate sent by the MAC which then perform its Digital-to-Analog-Conversion and feeds the PREAMP and then to AMP and the SPEAKER's. *Now, this is for the CD... just think about the Vinyl... Since it has the spectrum range beyond the CD, people tend to record them in DSD/DXD mode (that is 64 times the 44.1khz). This way, you preserve the entire spectrum of Vinyl as is. Several Record Labels do preserve them in this format which can then be down samples to what ever format you need. If you compare the SELVI sample of both MP3 and the AIFF format, it will be difficult to figure out the difference with a normal computer headphones. You would need a good quality one to figure out the difference. *I hope I have not bored people on this topic...*Quote:
Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
Vinod
Vinodkumar, :notworthy: Superb, man! Onnum theriyaathunnu sollittE ivLO solreengaLe :lol: I understand it as "If the source taken, ACD, is of higher quality, then even if the DSP/DAC 'expands' the sound, it only leads in much superios qualit becos there is good separation of instruments, almost all sounds are slightly doubled in time slice, so that you hear superior quality. Since the system is doubling the existing source, if you pass a low quality audio, this process will make the resulting sound, much worser"
Thanks! Let us discuss this later once more, about the software and H/W you are using! :)
Hi SKV.. My apologies for the delay..lt been a very busy weekend for me. :) Yes... you are correct with respect to quality. The DAC is the hardware part and the DSP is a plugin which is the software part which uses the DAC to process signal. I use MAC for audio and the hardware that I use is Metric Halo LIO DAC (which runs on MAC) and PureMusic player. I'm in the process of getting a DAC which can record in DSD/DXD. This also requires a software which can handle DSD/DXD. I will upload some songs which has good recording in the coming days..Quote:
Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqtA8myPSto
Ilayaraja's guitar, sax, strings masterpiece!
S.P.Bala with Janu!
வானெங்கும் தங்க விண்மீன்கள் விழியிமை மூட
சூரியன் வந்து கடல் குளித்தேரும் நேரம்....
கீழை வானமெங்கும் தீயின் ஓவியம்...
கண்கள் போதை கொள்ளும் காலை காவியம்!
கவிஞர் வைரமுத்து!:thumbsup:
happened to hear kuyilukkoru niram irukku song from Solla thudikkuthu manasu on some random channel...... it was a lovely song and infact all the songs from this movie were so awesome, solla thudikkuthu manasu, thenmozhi (a very underrated song i think, neverthless a sweet song), this song and the evergreen melody poove sempoove........ pity that this film is a utter waste of a movie....... one another movie which doesnt deserve a bit of the sweet songs that has been composed. AFAIK in TFM, IR has the longest list of such type of albums in his repertoire (awesome songs for gruesome movies)
Thanks subras for highlighting kuyilukkoru niram irukku. As K_G always tells, too much dependency on his music killed the creativity of many directors. They had an easy route to success without even putting their talent in front. We had a huge benefit atleast in terms of music, otherwise we would not be talking about 80s/90s anymore.
I have uploaded more SRR bgm at soundcoud... Some of them, you might be hearing it for the first time. I hope you all enjoy... http://soundcloud.com/raja4ever/tracks
:ty: Vinodkumar, I will immerse my soul to your playlist sometime soon!
1. செவ்வந்தி பூ முடிச்ச சின்னக்கா....பதினாறு வயதினிலே....மலேசியா வாசுதேவன் & சுஷீலா, chorus
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1977
Raja's early folk composition with claps, chorus, stream of violin & flute passage!
joy has no bounds with early Ilayaraja's sangeetham!:bluejump:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyEhFYsYjSc
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2.
bass guitar prelude with pattukku pattu for Janu's humming, scintillating violin, romantic flute for magical Bala & Janu's vocal humming pattukku pattu, PEN MAANE.... tabla rhythm delight from NAAN SIGAPPU MANIDHAN!
தேன்மழை நீ ஹோய்.......... மார்பிலே தூவவோ?
தேவதை நீ ஹோய்............நான் தினம் தேடவோ?
கையருகில் பூமாலை கால்களின் கோபுரம்
மைவிழியில் நீதானே வாழ்கிறாய் ஓர்புறம்...
singers get bass guitar & violin backdrop....
என்காதல் வானிலே பெண்மேக ஊர்வலம்
காணுவேன் தேவியை கண்களின் விழாவில்....
யாத்திரை ஏன் ஹோய்....... ராத்திரி நேரமே?
போர்க்களம் தான் ஹோய்......... பூக்களின் தேகமே...
தேகமழை நானாகும் தேதியை தேடுவேன்...
ஈரவயல் நீயாக மேனியை மூடுவேன்...
Shri.S.P.Bala glides like a butter, smooth!
Janumma is magical!:happydance:
கண்ணோரம் காவியம் கைசேரும் போதிலே
வானமும் தேடியே வாசலில் வராதோ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-V9ARAWW2E
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3.கொள்கை காதல் பாடல்.... மலேசியா வாசுதேவன் & சித்ரா!
இதயமே நாளும் நாளும் காதல் பேசவா
உதயமே நீயும் கூட வாழ்த்து பாடவா
காதல் மனமே வாழ்க தினமே
அன்பின் உறவே இன்றும் நமதே என்றும் நமதே
இதயமே நாளும் நாளும் காதல் பேசவா ...
பல்லவி கிடார் strumming rhythm with dramatic வயோலின் hype the emotions ..
Raja's bgm with புரட்சி வேகம் வயோலின் strings pouring, trumpet பிளீரிட chorus & bass கிடார்!
three compositions from my playlist while driving......:musicsmile:
Vinatha
The original NEPV song from NN is so great that even a low-res video like this (not the Karthik-Jiji one but a combination of many others - Jiva / Surya / Vijay) can get 100K hits just like that:
(Ofcourse, I can't help restate this fact : THE SECOND INTERLUDE IS ONE OF THE BEST I'VE EVER HEARD AS MUSIC, NOT JUST IFM):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25kOe...feature=fvwrel
OK, this is from the original "ninaivellAm nithyA" (the song is not NEPV but "thOLin mElE" - the IR-Afro special with SPB!)
I know baroque (Vinatha thangai) is a big fan of Karthik, so this for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NMt3Vo0pvQ
Actually, even part 2 of NN is not boring, Sridhar has done good so far....(and check out the fantastic IR BGM for the Karthik-Gemini puththiri scenes):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLgHt...feature=relmfu
:-D yeah... bgm is beautiful even in the first clip before the song!:musicsmile:
Actor Karthik & Late actor Sanjeev Kumar, both are immensely likeable!
endearing & luminous are their presence ! :swinghead:
One is boyish & cute, Other is dashing & refined!
they both give INTIMATE FEELING, I am fond of them! :)
Vinatha
Here are some of the CD versions (UdhayaGeetham, Geethanjali and JappanilKalyanaRaman)... Except for the UdhayaGeetham, the rest of them sounds very digital to me. Still, its listenable...the benefit of buying original ACD. http://soundcloud.com/raja4ever/udha...aenethenpaandi
Was playing the sure shot 'put the baby to sleep' song 'ThuLLith thirindhadhoru kaalam' from endrum anbudan.
This is the song we have heard zillion times and seen every corner of it - or thats how I had assumed.
While slipping into a trance in the second interlude and coming out of it when SPB started 'thuLLum alai ena' - I sat up
whoa - never heard this before.. in the sense that instead of a bass guitar playing out in the background slowly chumming
a sub sonic melody - here there was an entire string section(cellos? violins?) playing so mildly along with SPB as he sang the entire song a parallel melody. I thought I must be hallucinating and played it one more time and this time unmistakably so - I can catch the violins playing ever so softly along with SPB's haunting vocals creating a soothing effect... What all goes on to make a song 'Raaja song' - one can only
wonder and wonder...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmzn5oGOaFA
alla unai.....chandralekha..
பூவரம்பூ பூத்தாச்சு பொண்ணுக்கு சேதியும் வந்தாச்சு....
late 70s ilayaraja-janaki solo!
train sound!
violin, flute, bass guitar, xylophone....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-peO5OPyrs
Vinatha :musicsmile:
Watched NN today (thanks to a youtube link tamilarasan posted in the TF section)...
While I skipped vachukkavA, unnaiththAnE & muththAdudhE (sittukku sellachchittukku difficult to skip), for some reason I continued watching the "most-skip-worthy" song of the movie, 'namma modhalALi nalla modhalALi'...
It could be because of the impressive scene prior (of breaking the factory strike with an innovative idea) that I got carried away immersed in thoughts and forgot to do the "skip" for this song.
Interestingly, now I've revisited the song on youtube :shock:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FnqBLQ8NaY
Though neither the song nor the picturization is anything unique (rAsA has done tons of such in his career), I can't help but admire the ENERGY LEVELS of the female dancers :clap:
enna oru enthu & dedication to their profession!
Considering this is her FIRST movie, Radhika is very impressive (actually, phenomenal IMHO - compared to all other BR-intros' "first movie" songs)!Quote:
Originally Posted by baroque
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I've said this here before - this song is extremely catchy! When I watched this movie as a kid (when I was too young to understand/appreciate music/Raaja), this was the song that caught my attention! And it has aged decently well I must say. Great energy levels this one's got.Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Well...Well.. Well.. I have recently acquired a very rare "Meenakshi Sthothram" album of Raaja.. I was on the hunt for close to 10 years and only now I was lucky to acquire it. I remember talking to Agilan a while ago where in he mentioned that he doesn't have the original Master tape of this album. Not sure if he was able to find the master tape... I'm eagerly waiting for its arrival. Long time ago, I used to call Oriental Records frequently to release this album... :)
vinod,but then how come agi music released the cd without the master tapes.hope they havent converted mp3s to cdQuote:
Originally Posted by Vinodkumar
I don't think it's from MP3. The one I'm getting is vinyl.Quote:
Originally Posted by visvan1970
the one you are getting is vinyl, ok!
He is asking about the original source!
If they don't have master tape(vinyl etc...) source, how can they release?
so, if they don't have original ilayaraja albums, AGI takes exiting available mp3s & remaster them, release them, is it?
Because ilayaraja gave rights to agi, all agi has to do is shop at the streets of purasawakkam,t.nagar, get ilayaraja mp3s , remaster sell in their website because there are no original source available!
Agi can illegally buy ilayaraja mp3s for their business according to ilayaraja!:-D seri....
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thanks, app_eng.
TABALA ILAYARAJA'S ABHERI RAGAM!
waltz touches in charanam is beauty!
muthamizhe muthamizhe.... raman abdhulla
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T8Zm...eature=related
Well.. My conversation with him was long time ago. I suppose you could shoot an email to Mr. Agilan and ask him the same? I do not think nor did I suggest that the samples are from MP3. I will take that as a funny comment.
mmm...
I see Landmark carries the album you are mentioning!
http://www.landmarkonthenet.com/sri-...usic-19440204/
Yes...that is the mp3 version released by AgiMusic. Please click the 'specifications' tab. It's the same thing that you will get as downloadable format.Quote:
Originally Posted by baroque
yeah... I know, label- Agi, format - mp3. I read it.:)
fast tempo, drum strumming, bass guitar foot tapping raja rajadhi....Agni natchathiram!:smokesmirk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS5U-Mjd5WA
This song played on TV some minutes back; been ages I've listened to it; seeing it the first time on TV I think.
Sanga thamizh kaviyE - manadhil urudhi vEndum. An extremely beautiful raagamalika.
http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer...6'&lang=en
Dont like this song anymore .. as I did when it came out.. the bad synth drums really bother me..(yes, I do know the innovations in this song.. all rhythm instruments etc)Quote:
Originally Posted by baroque
ok, Kiru, you don't dig any more aa! the composition's energy kept me going on this day with Indian summer heat we are suffering at San Jose! :ty: Raja!
now I am enjoying flute romance , bass guitar giddy
tabla ilayaraja's pani vizhum poo nilavil.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyusThXwUw4
Vasu & Janu!
Your composition is sweeter than my Pomegranate-Banana smoothie this evening, Raja!:musicsmile:
GORGEOUS & FOREVER FRESH 80s ilayaraja! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DR1CFytjPY
pootha maligai kaathu nikkudhu....
Baroque, are you in twitter? Even if you are not, consider participating in this quiz! Already some hubbers are there!
http://365rajaquiz.wordpress.com/
thanks, Sakala!
i am not in the twitter yet!
will peek in there....:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jffIjYd4ENs
KANNAN ORU KAI KUZHANDHAI.....BADRAKALI....SHRI.YESUDAS & SUSHEELA!:musicsmile:
Now, we are talking :-) ..both are my fav singers.. pitch perfect singing.. undisturbed tone throughout the range !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by baroque
(yes, it was hot in SF too on tuesday !!!)
Very romantic composition, I dedicated to President Obama & his wife for their wedding anniversary! :)
It's cooling down to mid 60s in coming days!
What a lively ilayaraja in GERMANIYIN .....:bluejump:
cheerful trumpet, church bells, flute & strings!
S.P.B with Janumma!
ULLASA PARAVAIGAL is very exotic album!
I floating in the air while listening to the composition this early morning!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tucKCBYGoBU
1980!
First time listen and SPB 'S SHOW ALL THE WAY.
Raja's audacity to go for a very carnatic PanthuvarALi/Purvikalyani for such a fun riot is something he holds a patent ..
Listen to the "pattu pudavai" bit , but why so less a bit for a beauty of this kind yaa?
http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer...0'&lang=en
from "En purushan thaan enakku mattum thaan"
I think manadhil...susheela's solo & an erotic ilayaraja composition was heard those days.
Raja has adhered to RAGHUVARA NANNU.... Thyagaraja's melodic improvisations unleashed Bala's playful,teasing vocal & lyrics reflects the theme!
For your weekend listening... I have loaded some more samples from Guru (Malayalam), Ejjamaan & IdhuNammaBhoomi. I hope you like it...
http://soundcloud.com/raja4ever/guru-mal-thatthaaram
Added another one... I'm sure you will definitely enjoy it... http://soundcloud.com/raja4ever/payanagalmudivathillai