The Golden Era of Dr.IR and Dr.SPB

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Originally Posted by Plum

ponnula ponnula is quite a riotous celebration of a song. I'll tell you something - sub-consciously this song evokes a memory of being in a thiruvizhA with speakers booming and all the colours of the festival around you. The catch is I have never been to such a thiruvizhaa.

So, going by app's description, either I have some ESP of a previous birth - or that is how much Raja can paint a landscape and milieu and transport it to your heart. I think Jai covered this concept few months back in PFC.

Ofcourse, you can always question the authenticity of the thiruvizhaa evoked in m y mind but then that is why I never shared this here until I saw app's real-life descriptions that startlingly match with my mind-picture,

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:thumbsup: That is Ilaiyaraaja!

App,Wonderful write-up on 'Ore Naal'. :clap: This one song can stand any length of time without getting old at all. And this film itself on the whole was a revolution and relevation and I believe it has taken the whole TN by storm. Any time I listen to this song (infact all of this film's songs), I can't forget to go back to that time. Still remembering we mimicking the bell-bottom pants, the step-cutting hairstyle (covering little more than half of our ears, can't believe how long we used to spend our time before the mirrors :lol:), and that fine moustache (eventhough I was not old enough to bear a moustache :lol: saw my elder friends doing that) just dripping around the lips, just like Kamal. Heavenly days!

Thank you V_S, it's impossible for me to listen to IR's 70's songs (or for that matter, the 80's ones) and not have some kind of nostalgia :-) Issue of formative years, I think :-)

Beautiful, App_eng.
thanks for your time & passion.
late 70s... some of us are forever fond of early IR.
It is hard for me to remember what I had for breakfast or lunch or dinner just a previous day, but nostalgia about my Ilayaraja sangeethams & the places we grew up, all those adolescent years I spent are in my memory forever. It is soothing for my mind and manasu santhosham.

thanks for S.P.B- Janu paadalgal link.
amazing compositions. I will enjoy at the end of the day.

vinatha.

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Originally Posted by app_engine

Quicky checked out the page on SPB-SJ, nice selections :-)

One small nit pick, the song 'pAdu nilAvE' is from the movie 'udhaya geetham' (and not 'thEn kavidhai' as this page says, that phrase is actually the second line of this song :-) )

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Correction Done. Thanks.

எங்கிருந்தோ என்னை அழைத்ததென்ன உந்தன் கானம்தானா!
என் மனதில் அன்பை விதைத்ததென்ன உந்தன் மோகம்தானா!

பாலு-ஜானகி குரல்களில் ஒரு ஐஸ்கிரீம் சுவைப் பாடல். அழகான பாடலில் திருஷ்டி போல எனக்குப் படுவது அந்த "உய்யலா உய்யாலூலா" கோரஸ் தான். அதற்கு பதிலாக ஏதேனும் வார்த்தைகளை நிரப்பியிருக்கலாம்.

App anna , Keep up the good work :thumbsup:

Nathiyil aadum poovanaum - Kadhal Oviyum. Wow what a rendition by Balu sir, All of SPB sir's Romantic songs gives extreme pleasure to the soul, I am not sure how to explain it, and here are few of the soul stirring songs from SPB!

1) MayilE MayilE un thogai engE - SPB + PS , is it an IR compostion ? :roll:
2) MazhaiyE MazhiyE ilamai - SPB + SJ ( I think the actors were Partap and suhasini)
3) Nathiyil aadum poovanam - SPB + SJ kadhal oviyum
4) Radha Radha nee engE - Meendum Kokila
5) orE naal unnai naan - SPB + VJ
6) ilamai enum poongater - SPB ( worst picturisation :banghead: )
7) Sundari kannal oru sethi - SPB+SJ (thalapathy)
8) Vaa vaa vanch ilamanE - SPB+SJ (Guru shisyan)
9) Thogai ilamayil aadi varuguthu - SPB (Payanangal mudivathillai)
10) Kadhalin deepm ondru - SPB (thambiku entha orru)

tired now :) more later!

#12 மேகமே, தூதாக வா, அழகின் ஆராதனை
(கண்ணன் ஒரு கைக்குழந்தை , 1978 )

This "radio-only-hit" song from an obscure movie should be quite an interesting one for any who look into IR/SPB archives. My listen this morning took me straight to the valve radio days when even switching on a tube light with an aluminium choke could create intolerable noise in the radio reception, spoiling the listening pleasure. (In our home's case, it was even worse as the power supply at one point of time was shared with a school building and there could be any number of noise sources).

This is a "hurried" kind of song. 3 stanzas in a 3 minute song (which means very limited size interludes, hardly any prelude, no postlude)! That is also reflected in the beat progression for the pallavi while the saraNam has a typical IR tablA.

Nevertheless, the song is sweet - SPB/PS reflecting the joyful mood of the tune and singing with energy. I'm wondering whether the song got recorded in 1976/77 as the name of the movie seems to try and leverage the badhrakALi hit. The structure of the song also suggests somewhat earlier time period (i.e. than that of the more polished ones that we see in 1978 Chittukkuruvi, IO etc).

I have two more songs in 1978 (will be posting them tomorrow / day after) and both are SPB + chorus kinds and not duets.

So, until 1978, i.e. during the first 3 years of IR's TFM existence, SPB had equal number of duets with SJ & PS (5 each).

Of these, all the PS ones were at least radio hits while SJ had 4 (the other SJ number from peN jenmam I heard only last week, when looking around for this thread).

The sole VJ number was a huge hit.

So, at least from the SPB-IR combo POV, there was no "sidelining of PS to support SJ" from IR :wink:.

If anything, it was "sidelining VJ" !

megame thoodhaga vaa.......is one of my favorite IR's pahadi-ragam, app-eng.

Our life got better and better as we passed our elementary, middle school years ..
yeah... Alaigal oivadhillai, Naan paadum padal, Salangai oli, kairasikkaran more more....

good old ilayaraaja days
Vinatha.

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Originally Posted by venkkiram

எங்கிருந்தோ என்னை அழைத்ததென்ன உந்தன் கானம்தானா!
என் மனதில் அன்பை விதைத்ததென்ன உந்தன் மோகம்தானா!

பாலு-ஜானகி குரல்களில் ஒரு ஐஸ்கிரீம் சுவைப் பாடல். அழகான பாடலில் திருஷ்டி போல எனக்குப் படுவது அந்த "உய்யலா உய்யாலூலா" கோரஸ் தான். அதற்கு பதிலாக ஏதேனும் வார்த்தைகளை நிரப்பியிருக்கலாம்.

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Yeah, uyaalaa part was annoying. Also the heavy drum machine during interval breaks the breeziness of the song.

Which film is this song from ? 'Chinamani KuyiliyE .... MayilE engE un jodi' ... I think it is a VK movie :roll:

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Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

Which film is this song from ? 'Chinamani KuyiliyE .... MayilE engE un jodi' ... I think it is a VK movie :roll:

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amman kOyil kizhakkAlE (yes, VK / Radha starrer directed by R Sundarrajan)

:ty: app anneh

#13 ராமன் ஆண்டாலும் ராவணன் ஆண்டாலும்
எனக்கொரு கவலை இல்லே
(முள்ளும் மலரும், 1978)

This song needs no intro :-) One of the early "tribal" numbers of IR that happened in great company - SPB / Rajinkanth / Mahendran!

I believe MM was a mutually beneficial colloboration between Mahendran & IR with more benefits to IR :wink: One can see a distinct jump in IR's class when objectively looking at his prior movies v/s the score for this movie from an OST perspective.

As a sample, one can appreciate the significant contrast between senthAzham poovil and this song - signs of great maturity of a composer. I think IR's time arrived with this movie as a composer who'll be the best fit for story telling on celluloid :-)

I remember posting about this song's connection to our school's participation in a science exhibition (contest between schools) in "town". There was a sensor based item on our display in which something when warmed up (or touched or light interrupted - don't exactly remember, there were a few on display then) will power up the cassette player for a few seconds.

The prelude humming (thiraippadal says L R Anjali) was in an endless loop cassette (I think, or may be a spool) that got played 100's of times during the exhibition. Any time I hear the humming, I'm instantly thrown into that school building (St.Mary's, Dindigul) :-)

slight digression, there was an excellent post by Jai on the song with regards to Rajini's performance. If Yaar antha nilavu was triumph of one layer over the other when NT did better than TMS who did better than MSV, I'd say the same here. That is the strong foundation laid by IR/SPB.

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Originally Posted by groucho070

if yaar antha nilavu was triumph of one layer over the other when nt did better than tms who did better than msv, i'd say the same here. That is the strong foundation laid by ir/spb.

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எழுதின கவியரசை எங்கே சேர்ப்பது? Imo, இசை-வரிகள்-குரல்-நடிப்பு இந்த வரிசையில் "யார் அந்த நிலவு.." கவர்ந்தது.

Absolutely.
MSV->Kavingar->TMS->NT
IR->Kavingar->SPB->RK.

Again, built on strong foundation. Wait, Raman Aandalum is Kannadhasan right?

I happen to watch Ullasa Paravaigal recently, and the most famous number from tht movie, Germaniyin Senthen malare, although its an absolute delight listening to the song, but the visualization is so dreadful. with Kamal & Rathi running around the naked statues in Paris or Germany, I'm not sure, konjam nerudalaana kaatchigal avai. but they do make a cute couple though,
SPB & SJ singing the song, as though they themselves are taking a stroll down the park... lovely number ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQx70vAtrm8

"I believe MM was a mutually beneficial colloboration between Mahendran & IR with more benefits to IR "
app, wink kUda thEvaii illai. This is fact. He was doing Bhadrakali ThuNai iruppAl meenakshi and family drama stuff before.(although none of you raise one word against songs from these movies. None, I mean. I can be quite cruel if you dare.)

Mahendran was one of the earliest guys to shape the IR I love most - the one that touches corners of my heart that I didnt knew existed, and can ostentatiously tell a story through his notes. I dont care if BGM is considered integral part of moviemaking or not - to me, IR's craft is one reason I'd like to watch a movie. Highest respect to Mahendran.
(incidentally, one of the earliest HCIRFs in this forum was a malaysian called Mahendran and he used to remorselessy post inane praise of IR and irate attacks at other MDs, particularly Rahman. I dont know what this tidbit has to do with my previous paragraph - I have just got into this senile, rambling mode where snippets howsoever unrelated to the subject matter keep cropping up and I cannot resist the temptation of throwing them in :().

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Originally Posted by Divine22

SPB & SJ singing the song, as though they themselves are taking a stroll down the park... lovely number ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQx70vAtrm8

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Yes , these to legends dont sing they live as the characters of the song! This is one of my Fav SPB song , thanks for remainding me :)

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Originally Posted by groucho070

slight digression, there was an excellent post by Jai on the song with regards to Rajini's performance. If Yaar antha nilavu was triumph of one layer over the other when NT did better than TMS who did better than MSV, I'd say the same here. That is the strong foundation laid by IR/SPB.

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Rakesh anna

Neenga entha paata pathi pesureenga :roll:

Raman andalum ravanan andaalum enakkoru kavalaillai......

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Originally Posted by groucho070

Raman andalum ravanan andaalum enakkoru kavalaillai......

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Excellent song, Though Senthazham poovil was more popular than Raamn andalum song, I loved this song for SPB charisma and RK style of dancing!
SPB sing it as raamE andalum, instead of Raman andalum to suit RK's style! This is SPB for you :notworthy:

That's the thing. He had imagined what kinda attakaasam Rajini is going to do with this song, but Rajini ran away with it. the part, "nee keeta keetatha kuduppen, ketkura varatta kelunggadaa..." and the snarling look on Rajini's face...what a match, what a match!!!

One of the Evergreen song of Balu gaaru :clap:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Bjq3...yer_detailpage

Hi All

I have heard an awesome Romantic song by SPB + KSC , it is something along these lines
'Azhagiya pon maanin poomalai thaan vizhuthathu en thOzhil thaan'. I couldn't find it on google, may be because my words are wrong, If some one knows this song, please give the details/ Links.

I think the MD could be IR / SG or even S.A.Rajkumar.

Many thanks

#14 சொர்க்கம் மதுவிலே, சொக்கும் அழகிலே
(சட்டம் என் கையில், 1978 )

This is our last SPB/IR number from 1978. Jubiliant song with wind instruments and guitar freaking out. (Search and watch the video at youtube if you like the "step-cutting-bell-bottom-wild-Kamal-and-girls"). Bala's niche area - club songs - and he excels effortlessly and well supported by girl voices :wink:

So, 3 years and 14 hits in this combo - 3 in '76, 3 in '77 & 8 in '78. (Going forward, we'll see that this combo possibly doing this many hits in less than a quarter or so in later years).

Interesting to note that none of the SPB-IR numbers went unnoticed in 1978 (as in the case of two numbers in 1977 that I had to skip).

As we've noticed earlier, the music of IR kept getting a lot more polished during 1978, possibly due to the influence of collaboration with Sridhar / Mahendran who both - IMO - had ears for sophisticated music. Ofcourse IR had it inside him otherwise they couldn't have extracted (சட்டியில் இருந்தது , இன்னும் இருக்கிறது எடுப்பதற்கு). While BR inspired IR to hit out classics in his most powerful domain (folk with WCM embedded), these new associations brought out other areas - tribal, ICM rAgA based melodies, popular western format etc.

Some say Karthik Raja is a lot more talented than YSR. I think his main problem is lack of such "akappaikaL". Or, to use a better word, "theekkuchchikaL" :-(

app,
nice write up.. pl keep it up....... tfmpage ku vandha podhu partha app aga ipo vandhu irukeenga...
Padum vanam padi.. indha paatuku wait panren..........

நன்றி உஷாக்கா :-)

'பாடும் வானம்பாடி' எல்லாம் எப்போ வரும்னு தெரியலை.

1979-லேயே 23 பாட்டு இருக்கு, மே-28 வரைக்கும் அதுவே போகும்...

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Originally Posted by app_engine

நன்றி உஷாக்கா :-)

'பாடும் வானம்பாடி' எல்லாம் எப்போ வரும்னு தெரியலை.

1979-லேயே 23 பாட்டு இருக்கு, மே-28 வரைக்கும் அதுவே போகும்...

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Enjoy app.. wait panren................

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Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN

Hi All

I have heard an awesome Romantic song by SPB + KSC , it is something along these lines
'Azhagiya pon maanin poomalai thaan vizhuthathu en thOzhil thaan'. I couldn't find it on google, may be because my words are wrong, If some one knows this song, please give the details/ Links.

I think the MD could be IR / SG or even S.A.Rajkumar.

Many thanks

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PM,

http://www.dhool.com/phpBB2/viewtopi...t=7788&p=20050

Is that song you are talking about?

Sorgam mathuvile

The screams were annoying then and annoying now. All the bleating "yahoo yahoo" and the blood curdling, "eeeeaaaarghhh..." Yabbaa...

Otherwise, there is a sweet melody in the charanam. Few years ago, in one of the singing competition a guy sang this song and suddenly it struck me that it's not an easy song to sing, and that it's actually more than a club song, an emotional song, the part, "kuddikiren, anaikkiren, ninaithatha marakiireen..." the "let go" sound of his voice at the end there. Awesome!

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Originally Posted by priya32

PM,

http://www.dhool.com/phpBB2/viewtopi...t=7788&p=20050

Is that song you are talking about?

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wow Amazing, I have been searching for this for years now! It was on one the Audio Tape, my Parents bought from SL !

Many thanks :)

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Originally Posted by groucho070

That's the thing. He had imagined what kinda attakaasam Rajini is going to do with this song, but Rajini ran away with it. the part, "nee keeta keetatha kuduppen, ketkura varatta kelunggadaa..." and the snarling look on Rajini's face...what a match, what a match!!!

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That is Super Star for you :notworthy:

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Originally Posted by groucho070

Sorgam mathuvile

The screams were annoying then and annoying now. All the bleating "yahoo yahoo" and the blood curdling, "eeeeaaaarghhh..." Yabbaa...

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:lol: Rakesh anna, I quite liked that bit, 1/4 adicha apadi thaan paaduvanga :lol2:

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, "kuddikiren, anaikkiren, ninaithatha marakiireen..." the "let go" sound of his voice at the end there. Awesome!

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That is the GREATEST SPB for you ! :clap:

"Balasubrahmanyam's association with Ilaiyaraaja began in the late 1970s when the latter made his cinematic debut. Balasubrahmanyam began to record more songs in Tamil especially for Ilaiyaraaja. The Ilaiyaraaja-SPB-S. Janaki trio was considered to be highly successful in the Tamil film industry from the late 1970s and throughout the 1980s. The trio went on to work in films based on classical music like Saagara Sangamam (1983), for which both Ilaiayaraaja and SPB won National Film Awards, Swathi Muthyam (1986) and Rudraveena (1988)"

" Prominence in South: 1970sDespite being a Telugu, Balasubrahamanyam's Tamil pronounciation and diction was considered to be more perfect than his contemporaries as offers began to thrive. In Tamil, he mainly worked for composers like K. V. Mahadevan, M. S. Viswanathan, Shankar Ganesh, but his combination with V. Kumar was remarkable. He is known for matching his voice to almost every actor in Tamil ranging from M. G. Ramachandran to the new generation actors. He is perhaps best suited for the voice of Kamal Haasan. Like a conjuror pulling out all and sundry from the air around, he brought in an innovation in every number - be it his classy improvisations or his mimicking skills for "Kadavul Amaithu Vaitha Maedai" from Aval Oru Thodar Kathai (1974), which had him croak like a frog and trumpet like an elephant, he has a class of his own style of singing.

He received his first National Film Award for Best Male Playback Singer in 1980 for the Shankarabharanam, a film directed by K. Vishwanath. In 1976 , he recorded up to 23 songs, including 15 duets with P. Susheela in a single day. For Kannada composer Upendra Kumar, Blasubrahmanyam recorded 16 songs in just 6 hours. Again for Ram Laxman, he recorded six songs in 4 hours in Mumbai. Between three recording theatres in Mumbai, he sang 17 songs in a day for Anand-Milind.[18]
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Guys

There was a film called 'Sadurangam' ( RK and Sripriya, I think :roll: ), it had a wonderfull song called 'Madanorchanvam rathiyoodhan' by SPB + VJ was the MD of this film the 70's Famous Melody Composer V.Kumar? :shock: or was it MSV ?

The song was 'thEn sinthuthE vaanam' by SPB+SJ was also composed by V.Kumar :shock: :shock: :shock: All these time, I was thinking it was IR :shock:

And another from the same movie, 'Unnidum mayangukirEn' by KJY !