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25th November 2013, 04:53 PM
#471
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by execution I mean screenplay Mappi.... each scene must take the story-telling forward. otherwise it will be boring.
A good example is Dasavatharam - a paper thin story but with excellent screenplay.
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25th November 2013 04:53 PM
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25th November 2013, 04:55 PM
#472
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Originally Posted by
mappi
Love has different types and according to its type it takes a form. Eventhough Love is broken into 4 major parts, the sentiment we get thru Love forms its types. The 2 types, affection and intimacy defines a relationship. Each has its own abtract connections like commitement or infactuation which drives the human body to its goal. The other dimension of Love co-exists where you see a face when not experiencing the positive side of Love. For exemple envy or obsession. All of them put together forms an universe by itself bonded by emotions which is blossomed by either the presence or the absence.
Here is a film maker who wish to tell us this complex mechanism thru 2 thing, his understanding and his expectation. Thus Irandam Ullagem is born. The 2nd world itself is a world broken into 2 - a loveless one and a hatred one. Here its interesting to note that hatred was born even before love - its seen that through chaos hatred self seeds itself, and this word chaos is a primary word for Parallel universe. Thus comes in our world, the one we are living in. Its made of a mixture of all the types of Love and its side effects. So you already got 3 type of worlds here : mixed world, loveless world and hatred world. Now, if we take the love from the mixed world and put it in the loveless world to defeat the hatred world - is it possible ? Yes, it is, according to the film maker. The God of faternity works night shifts to bring in a process which permits this theory to happen. She plots a chaos in the mixed & loveless worlds, which activates the key to open the mystical portal where the 2 worlds meet for a fraction of a second. Not stopping there, she uses the mixed world's love to mingle with the loveless couple and make the 'Need' which was absent in the 'Desire' to bloom, thus supressing the hatred world.
There is much much more to it but keeping in mind the universal thumbs down for the film, I rest here. Irandam Ullagam may have missed to ignite the interest of many, but when properly allowed to, it could have casted an ever bounding spell. Key : There is always much more than the regular eyes meet.
Irandam Ullagam : Bold Fantasy-Fiction
I saw you defending / praising many movies
had there been any movie that you did not like at all?
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25th November 2013, 05:50 PM
#473
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Nov, I completely understand what you mean. Adaptation to the screen, the output, can be calculated thru the effort from the audience and the effort put by the film maker. If they are at a considerable angle, the movie gets a good reception. IU syndrome is quite simple to understand, and it solemnly weighs huge on SR. With annex to the brutality factor, here is the summary -
While watching a movie, the journey is like following the film maker by holding the rope which is tied to his belt. If the film maker moves faster or sways a lot, the audience have no other choice but slide down and reach the end of the rope. Now they are hanging in there and whatever the film maker tries to do to pull them up goes in vain. Its here the critics/reviews play a big part. Seeing the reviews as though IU is about "boy-meets-a-girl-on-a-rainy-day" made me come up with a description. Even though I say SR should have opted to be true in which ever channel he wished to travel - and sliding down and coming back pulling the audience along with him just back fired - but neither the audience nor SR should be blamed.
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25th November 2013, 06:13 PM
#474
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I am not a drunken fool to not give SR the credits. He is definitely up there among the best. konjam thadukkal... he will find his footing again.
I read somewhere that a lot has been changing since he first started making this movie seven years ago. Could be the reason...
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25th November 2013, 07:27 PM
#475
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LoL rsubras. There are plenty, just that they are not quite visible as I do not talk much about them, just say a line or two if necessary. I do not review all the movies, it has to convince me first. But there are few movies, recent ones like OA, IU, SK etc., which took me to my library. When a movie does that, it brings me an immense joy to speak out for that movie. So when I talk about these movies, its normal that it will be full of praises and appreciations. But I respect others likeness factor always. I just open the store, get what you wish. Not every client is a customer. If we like the movie, we have a lot to discuss, if you did not like the movie, lets join hands for some other movie, is the pattern I usually try to follow. That allows me to talk with anyone and everyone. It benefits me a lot - I learn.
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25th November 2013, 07:42 PM
#476
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where is the LIKE button, mappi?
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25th November 2013, 08:14 PM
#477
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Originally Posted by
NOV
where is the LIKE button, mappi?

Nov AnnE, there is
which can be used..
" The real triumph in life is not in never getting knocked down, but in getting back up everytime it happens".
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25th November 2013, 08:22 PM
#478
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Originally Posted by
Cinemarasigan
Nov AnnE, there is

which can be used..
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25th November 2013, 11:54 PM
#479
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Irandam Ulagam, is a failed film no doubt, but atleast we have a director who’s trying to tell us something visually and I think at least for that one needs to watch this. But it kind off beats me as to how he could screw up a movie this bad. There was a complete lack of coherence throughout . While the premise was mildly intriguing the way it was handled was anything but good. And Arya was a complete miscast. A better actor could have salvaged the movie. And certain scenes were so poorly constructed from an aesthetic point of view that I found it hard to believe that it was the same guy who gave us Pudhupettai and Aayirathil oruvan ( not perfect either but good enough for a non average, looking for something out of ordinary movie watcher like me). On paper the story looked good enough but the treatment left a lot to be desired. I will watch this movie again though. I went 15 minutes late to the movie and was a part of a raucous audience which grew impatient by the time the movie went into the second half. But more than that I would like to know as to what the director missed out and would like to deconstruct it a little more. ( see spoilers)There were some striking similarities to the concept of the 'The tree of life', a theme that was used in the movie, The Fountain . For example the growth of a plant from the place where Ramya dies is so similar to how Tom planted the seed in Izzy's tomb which in turn allowed him to find immortality)..
Last edited by Arvind Srinivasan; 25th November 2013 at 11:58 PM.
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26th November 2013, 08:29 AM
#480
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Originally Posted by
Arvind Srinivasan
Irandam Ulagam, is a failed film no doubt, but atleast we have a director who’s trying to tell us something visually and I think at least for that one needs to watch this.
But it kind off beats me as to how he could screw up a movie this bad.
Kind of funny when friends at hub try to go overboard to justify reasons to watch a bad movie.
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