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Thread: VEERAM : Ajith + "Siruthai" Shiva + DSP + Vijaya Productions

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    Quote Originally Posted by BM View Post
    Mappiji nice posts


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    Quote Originally Posted by Muthalvan View Post
    Mappi Agreed on Your positive and negative points. Quite nicely analysed one.

    And I still think its up to Ayngaran to promote Jilla or Veeram. They are risking their money and we do not know their strategy.
    I do not think they deliberately want Veeram to be out of cinemas, but trying to add a premium to the profit through Jilla.

    And more than that, how we going to choose the winner.. each star fans gonna claim they are the winner, so purely based on collections. But we all know we could not able to get the real actual figures at all.

    Watch both movies.. enjoy both.. praise your star.. And celebrate the Pongal..!!


    Agreed Watch both movies.. enjoy both.. praise your star.. And celebrate the Pongal
    "You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs."

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    higuys..


    i read that ajith and vj's films clashed 4 times in the past.

    villain vs bagavathy - i think villain won

    anjaneya vs thirumalai- thirumalai won

    paramasivan vs aadhi -- paramasivan won

    aazhwar vs pokiri -pokiri won

    so it's 50-50 . am i right??????

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    No doubt Villain won but can't accept paramu won ; both are average....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rachel View Post
    higuys..


    i read that ajith and vj's films clashed 4 times in the past.

    villain vs bagavathy - i think villain won

    anjaneya vs thirumalai- thirumalai won

    paramasivan vs aadhi -- paramasivan won

    aazhwar vs pokiri -pokiri won

    so it's 50-50 . am i right??????
    paramasivan won aaaaaaaaaaaaaa? sema comedy boss

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    Quote Originally Posted by rachel View Post
    higuys..


    i read that ajith and vj's films clashed 4 times in the past.

    villain vs bagavathy - i think villain won

    anjaneya vs thirumalai- thirumalai won

    paramasivan vs aadhi -- paramasivan won

    aazhwar vs pokiri -pokiri won

    so it's 50-50 . am i right??????
    Yea right

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    Quote Originally Posted by mappi View Post
    I will put it as a "bottle neck" strategy and I don't find anything wrong in it. Its a open table, and its up to the production house to play its cards. The one who is ready to invest money and confident in juggling with profit and loss - ie., take a percentage from the profit zone, to stabalize the non profit zone - has a bigger leverage. It can lock down the options of screening for the opponent even if their product is a dud.

    For the opening on the home ground (TN), take this as an exemple :

    Imagine the release ratio is 1:3 (Veeram:Jilla)

    Veeram @ Avm with a capacity of 500 => Houseful

    Jilla @
    Udhayam capacity 250 => 50 places rest
    Kamala capacity 250 => 50 places rest
    SSR Pankagam capacity 100 => 20 places rest

    So on a festive time, when a crowd comes to watch a movie, the probability of them returning back is 50-50. Say 750 came to see Veeram, 250 have to return. Now 125 want to watch a movie anyway. Those are the ones that fill 120 remaining place of Jilla running is cinema halls few meters away, making Jilla head count 600 but Veeram head count 500. Now the remaining 5 have to settle down with a set-dosa at a restaurant (LoL)

    Thats what I meant when I did not want to include the 1st week. It will be like 'soora-thenga-shatering' case. But the second week is the one that will count. Use the physics terms : Weight Vs Mass. That's the screen count vs show count. Limited theaters is like the mass, if there is matter (content in the film) then it will not vary. But that's not the case with weight, it varies with gravity. If Veeram is slightly better than Jilla, Jilla screens will be a PacMan for Veeram. But if Jilla is better than Veeram, nothing to worry about, they already have the maximum gravity pull - the screens - sure shot Block Buster.

    Overseas is completely a different league. The first criteria are the TFI movie goers which is much less but quite concentrated. The difference between Ajith and Vijay films are that Ajith fans are desperate to watch his films where as Vijay has a wide spread and scattered fans following him. Also, the overseas market is not a guaranteed run, its like a hour glass. Limited time - pay - take profit. So fetching Overseas market for comparisons is like 2 skeletons wrestling on a tin roof. For me, overseas market are the last batsman. On the home ground if the results are a tie, the overseas and other money fetching sectors come into play. I am skipping all these comparisons for the moments.

    I cannot be diplomatic in this case by saying both films should win. Profit wise yes, but only 1 will emerge winner - that's why these competitions are there for.

    That said, both movies do have their weakness which has not been thrown at their fans yet. It would be interesting to see how each uses them to its fullest :

    Jilla - First thing first - there is someone learning "photo-shop" with RB Chowdry's money. Leave alone whether the poster speak out or not, they fail to create any interest. Secondly - the Lal factor. You see its a kind of gambling going on from the promotional front. They want to keep Lal on top at the same time show that its Vijay who is holding him there. But the truth is Lal does not have any memorable hit record in a direct TFI film (critically acclaimed, yes). But its the Kerela audience that they are quite well guarding, but this can back fire massively at any point of time.

    Veeram - Siva and his track record, I mean his filming style comes as a 50-50 situation for the fans. Over build-ups or a flavor not suiting the TFI audience is on cards, even though the promotions looks solid. Secondly is the casting - TFI movie fans are still a bit shrink with the age and its cruelness. And Ajith pairing with Tamana will become the talk of the season or the cruel criticism of the era.

    And for the positive side :

    Jilla purely is depending on a hype factor stating the nature of dominance with counts & casting which indeed covers 2 money spining southern regions mainly because from the promotional front they have decided not to come out, reasons known only to them. Will this still work when there is a clash going on, is to be seen.

    Veeram's approach is professional by going by the plan and releasing timely posters & trailes, not to mention some clear cut interview shows that talks about the movie and the technicians with a right dose of "idol-worship". But their vigorousity is absent - will it favor them is to be seen..
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    Last edited by maniram_1234; 8th January 2014 at 01:18 PM.

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    Thirumal and Pokiri wins are by huge margin compared to villain's win .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by maniram_1234 View Post
    pesanumnu pesa kudathu kamalava open pani parunga apuram pesunga kupra vilanthalum meesaila manu otla ungaluku

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    Quote Originally Posted by arulraj View Post
    Thirumal and Pokiri wins are by huge margin compared to villain's win .....
    Haha sema comedy boss

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