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21st August 2014, 10:40 PM
#1401
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Djokovic's got a very tough draw and so has Andy Murray. Federer's gotta good one though. The matchup against Dimitrov may be a potential spoiler, but I guess its relatively hassle free compared to the other top players.
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21st August 2014 10:40 PM
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21st August 2014, 11:04 PM
#1402
Senior Member
Diamond Hubber
Arvind have u booked tickets to NY?
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21st August 2014, 11:06 PM
#1403
Senior Member
Seasoned Hubber
Was waiting for the draw. I might in a couple of days time.
“You never fail until you stop trying.”
― Albert Einstein
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21st August 2014, 11:49 PM
#1404
Senior Member
Seasoned Hubber
Originally Posted by
Arvind Srinivasan
Djokovic's got a very tough draw and so has Andy Murray. Federer's gotta good one though. The matchup against Dimitrov may be a potential spoiler, but I guess its relatively hassle free compared to the other top players.
Well, we wouldn't accuse ATP of "fixing" the draw as "you know who" is not playing this year! However, there are others who think ATP, USTA and other vested interests have been manipulating the major tournaments for many many years!
The following reports are three years old, but probably still relevant:
U.S. Open random draw questioned
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...tically-likely
How 'Outside the Lines' analyzed the U.S. Open tennis tournament draw
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...t%E2%80%90draw
Here is an analysis by EU and sports law academic Ms. Katarina Pijetlovic:
Facts and statistics indicate fixing at the very top of men’s tennis
(Please google the above title and click on the link for this PDF document.
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22nd August 2014, 04:22 PM
#1405
Senior Member
Seasoned Hubber
US Open draw:
Draws for top 4:
Djoko:
1: Schwartzman
2: Muller/Mathieu
3: Garcia-Lopez
4: Isner/ Kohlschreiber
QF: Tsonga/ Murray
SF: Wawrinka/ Nishikori/ Raonic
F: Fed
Wawrinka:
1: Vesely
2: Belluci/ Mahut
3: Chardy
4: Robredo/ Youzhny
QF: Nishikori/ Raonic
SF: Djoko
F: Fed
Ferrer:
1: Dzumhur
2: Tomic/ Brown
3: Simon
4: Cilic/ Anderson
QF: Berdych/ Gulbis
SF: Fed/ Dimitrov
F: Djoko
Federer:
1: Matosevic
2: Groth/ Ramos-Vinolas
3: Karlovic
4: Fognini/ Batista Agut
QF: Dimitrov/ Gasquet
SF: Ferrer/ Berdych
F: Djoko
So many people are carried away by false hopes that Fed is going to have it easy.
Yes he has a slightly favorable draw compared to Novak, but at this stage nothing is given. Any top 30 player can trouble Federer on his day.
I see a real challenge from QF onwards (Dimitrov/Berdych/Novak). Berdych has not done well this whole season, but who knows could have a decent run here.
Surely a great oppurtunity for Fed but will he have enough left to grab it??
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22nd August 2014, 06:23 PM
#1406
Senior Member
Seasoned Hubber
Originally Posted by
omega
So many people are carried away by false hopes that Fed is going to have it easy.
Yes he has a slightly favorable draw compared to Novak, but at this stage nothing is given. Any top 30 player can trouble Federer on his day.
I see a real challenge from QF onwards (Dimitrov/Berdych/Novak). Berdych has not done well this whole season, but who knows could have a decent run here.
Surely a great oppurtunity for Fed but will he have enough left to grab it??
+1...Gotta agree
“You never fail until you stop trying.”
― Albert Einstein
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22nd August 2014, 09:14 PM
#1407
Junior Member
Senior Hubber
Originally Posted by
raagadevan
Well, we wouldn't accuse ATP of "fixing" the draw as "you know who" is not playing this year!
However, there are others who think ATP, USTA and other vested interests have been manipulating the major tournaments for many many years!
The following reports are three years old, but probably still relevant:
U.S. Open random draw questioned
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...tically-likely
How 'Outside the Lines' analyzed the U.S. Open tennis tournament draw
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...t%E2%80%90draw
Here is an analysis by EU and sports law academic Ms. Katarina Pijetlovic:
Facts and statistics indicate fixing at the very top of men’s tennis
(Please google the above title and click on the link for this PDF document.
All very interesting to read. I would not be surprised by draw-fixing at all. TV viewership is the major source of revenue for the tournaments and it is in their interest to do whatever they can to help top players find easy passage to the semis. In spite of their efforts, Fed goes and loses to Gulbis and Nadal to Kyrgios so the great game of tennis keeps trumping their attempts to get eyeballs. But it is indeed getting more and more programmed and predictable...because that's what the viewers want. Viewers have become lazy, they want the same match ups over and over. Tennis is not the cinema box office, it is a sport with in built unpredictability. When seeds toppled last year at Wimbledon, I noticed a lot of people were upset as they would be denied the chance to watch Rafa/Fed (esp since most don't even tune in during the early rounds). That's not the way to enjoy tennis but then the casual fans are much, much greater in number than serious fans so such a situation can't be avoided.
It's interesting that the numbers are much better for RG and Aus Open and these two tournaments have traditionally been relatively less predictable (though no longer the case in Aus Open). Of course RG of now is nothing like what it was in 90s when it was near impossible to predict the winner from among a big clutch of specialists but at least the chances of all of the big four reaching the semis or seem to be less bright in it and Wimb. In fact, RG is the only slam in which there was at least one instance between 2008-2013 of only one of the big four getting to the semis (Fed in 2009). And Wimb the only one where all four have never reached the semis in the same tournament.
It is perhaps also why RG and Aus are treated as lesser siblings in the media and it's Wimb and USO that have traditionally attracted all the glamour and hype (and the numbers from 2008 onwards suggest there has been an 'adjustment' in Aus Open?). The way tennis is sought to be marketed as well as what people want to see in pro tennis are, as in many other big moneyed pro sports, at odds with the true essence of the game. Can't be helped. But I'll watch as long as at least a few players play good shots. Count me out if it ever gets total bashball.
Last edited by crimson king; 22nd August 2014 at 09:42 PM.
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23rd August 2014, 10:44 PM
#1408
Senior Member
Seasoned Hubber
Got the ticket for the final. Costed me about $172. But I guess it should be worth it.
“You never fail until you stop trying.”
― Albert Einstein
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23rd August 2014, 11:22 PM
#1409
Senior Member
Seasoned Hubber
Happy for you, Arvind! It sure would be more than worth it irrespective of which two players reach the finals.
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24th August 2014, 12:58 AM
#1410
Senior Member
Seasoned Hubber
“You never fail until you stop trying.”
― Albert Einstein
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