Is tamil derived from Sanskrit

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Thiru Neduncheziyan avargale!

PeN paruvangaL 7:-

pEthai 5 to 7
pethumpai 8 - 11
mankai 12 - 13
madanthai 14 - 19
arivai 20 - 25
therivai 26 - 31
pEriLampeN 32 - 40

You can get a few more by including mUthAtti, kizavi and so on, but I do not think there are any defined ages for them. If amy author gives such a list of more than 7, we shall exchange it for knowledge.

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CONTD..

A girl of sweet age is usually referred to in MalayaLam as "PeNKidA".

PathinEziletiya peNkidAAvum . pAna pAtiratil muntirich chaaRum - a line from a song by Kavi VayalAr.

Kutti can mean child, e.g. peNkutti pRasavichchu.

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nanRi Thiru A P MASILMANI avargaLae!

The musical instrument 'nAthasvaram' how is it called in pure Thamizh? Is the word 'vayathu' sanskirit? What about the word 'anjali?'

Thiru Nakeran (nakkEran) from Muzhakkam Thamizh seithth-thAL (from Canada) said vayathu isn't Thamizh and 'akavai' is good Thamizh and that 'aka vaNakkam' is good Thamizh and 'anjali' is sanskirit.

oh and btw those 7 ages for women, they make sense.

Is there a different one for 'aANkaL?' or they are kind of similar?

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//7 ages//

7 stages

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I have found out that the name 'peruvankiyam' or something was how 'nAthaswaram' called..let me double check that.

and how do you say 'Apple' in SenThamizh?
What is the pure Thamizh for 'koiyAp pazham?'
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[Nedunchezhiyan]

Thiru A P MASILMANI avargaLae!

//[Middle English, from Old English mann. See man-1 in Indo-European Roots.] //
www.dictionary.com

That is some information of the root word of the English word 'man' that I found on the website www.dictionary.com

You have told me that Devanayap Pavanar had proved the Thamizh word 'maN' in his etymological works to have come from the Thamizh word 'man'

Although the maN in Thamizh means soil or Land and where as the English word 'man' means human being. Is there a connection? Did it go to English from Thamizh? or was it just a coincident in sound?

nanRi, paNivu __/\__

[A P MASILAMANI]

Thiru Neduncheziyan avargale!

On Nathaswaram etc., I will get back to you shortly.

[A P MASILAMANI]

I thought of writing a detail account of the derivation of the word Naathaswaram, however, I have time only to make a brief submission on it now, Thiru Neduncheziyan avargale!!

Naatham comes from the word T: "naa" (tongue), The naatham (pleasant sound - "ps") that was known to Tamils or humans generally and for which they coined a name was the naatham from their own tongues. The ps from instruments came later as they became able to use them. Instrumental ps were an accompaniment to the naatham from "naa".

Once there were instruments and man was able to bring out ps from them, the term naatham also embraced such instrumental ps.

Suram comes from the word "suraththal" - that which issues forth from his tongue or instruments and flows... Sura + am = suram!!

Later suram > Skrt: swaram.

naatham + suram = naathasuram.

Naathasuram is Tamil music and from TN or South India.

[A P MASILAMANI]

Thiru Neduncheziyan avargale!

man [ Áý ] is the root for both (i) maanthan, manithan and manpathai, mannuyir , mannan on one hand and (ii) maN [ Áñ ] on the other hand.

man [ Áý ] has more than one meaning.

(A) mannuthal [ ÁýÛ¾ø ] - be permanent, be present at all times.

(B) mannuthal [ ÁýÛ¾ø ] - sinthiththal (thinking).

Words referring to humans came from mannuthal, meaning thinking person.

MaN (soil) came from the same word mannuthal in its other meaning of something permaneet.

Indo-European "man" is close to the Tamil words, just as "manushya" (Skrt).

The explanation is that Indo European languages borrowed this word from Tamil at very early stage, whilst in contact with Sumerian civilisation. After all, Tamil is the mother of many world languages.Research has shown Tamil (archaic) was being used in Sumerian area.