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15th June 2006, 08:32 AM
#11
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raikkoken.
thats
aazham parthu kaalai vidu
(vidathE illai )
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15th June 2006 08:32 AM
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15th June 2006, 11:26 AM
#12
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Originally Posted by
Braandan
Bipolar,
In TN StateBoard syllabus, the TN Textbook society (tamizhnaadu paada nool niruvanam) brings out Tamil books for all the subjects for Tamil medium also. Most of these textbooks have the translation of physics,chemistry, biology terms in Tamil. Still the Tamil medium students score less in these subjects than the Eng medium ones. So translation or learning in your mother tongue is not the issue!
You cant say it is not an issue..It wont be an issue for a bright tamil medium student but in other way say the student is not that bright then ofcourse it is an issue, if he studies any professional course in the future!
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15th June 2006, 03:33 PM
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The reason students of English medium schools do better than students of Tamil medium schools could be that English medium schools have better teaching. If I'm not mistaken, most of the English medium schools in Tamil Nadu are privately funded - so, they can employ better teachers than Government schools, which are not very well funded. Also, in general, most students from upper economic classes go to English medium schools - their parents are probably educated too, so they are better guided by their parents than students at Government schools.
Of course, language is not the only problem - I agree with that, but it is one of the problems - there are other things to be considered too, but language, I feel, is an important matter.
Let me make one thing clear: I have no political motives. I'm not a pro-Tamil idealist. I don't consider Tamil to be superior to any other language. My only wish is to try to make some suggestions to be of help to students who don't speak English. I am not trying to suggest that all students should learn only in Tamil. That would not be a good thing. I feel that if possible - IF POSSIBLE - all students should learn both English and Tamil. The more languages you can speak, the better. But if that is not possible, then at least, important concepts should be taught to students in the language that they understand well. Education is not just about passing exams. It is about knowledge - understanding important concepts. I studied in an English-language school in India. I remember when we were taught Newton's three laws of motion, most of the students knew it by heart. But not many students actually fully understood the importance of it. Newton's laws of motion are important scientific concepts. There are many other very important concepts too - evolution, quantum physics, relativity, calculus, etc... If students don't fully understand these things, they will not be able to apply these concepts properly in the fields of biological or engineering research - there won't be much scientific progress.
That's why I'd like to see someone trying to explain Newton's laws in Tamil (and then I'd like to see someone trying to translate Einstein's and Darwin's theories)... Anyone want to try?
I copied the following from the English language version of Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_laws_of_motion
First law: Objects in motion tend to stay in motion, and objects at rest tend to stay at rest unless an outside force acts upon them.
Second law: The net force on an object is equal to the product of its mass and its acceleration.
Third law: To every action (force applied) there is an equal and opposite reaction (equal force applied in the opposite direction).
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16th June 2006, 02:48 PM
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Whatever we do to bring our languages in subject stream, still people in India will stick to English atleast for Science and Tech studies.
Many years ago I was working for Govt of India undertaking in NewDelhi. As such govt establishments do every year, they also had a "Hindi week",once, where all employees, especially those hailing form South India are herded for a meeting to emphasize Hindi to be used for all purposes officially. So the next day, I filled out an Accounts form purely using Hindi numerals and using the dates in the Saka Era calendar (govt of india's official calendar). When it went to the Acct section, the clerk (North Indian) came to me "Saab ye kyaa hai", blinking at the Hindi numerals and dates. I promptly took him to the head of accounts and to the "Hindi officer" (all govt dept have a useless guy on this job) and made a hue and cry with the higher management. "Practice what you preach, being North Indians you yourself do not know to read Hindi numerals or to know the Saka dates, why waste samosas on Hindi week".
This is the case everywhere. All the newtons laws listed by you are in 7th class "paadanool" in Tamil!
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3rd July 2006, 10:46 AM
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I've seen tamil medium students struggle to read & write science in tamil.This is b'coz they are less exposed to tamil elsewhere.Many of them don't know what is tamil for 'bucket'.What I mean is we use many english words even for simple things.The students tend to memorize even the tamil terms .They dont bother to find the root of the sci-terms & try to understand it.And writing in tamil the most difficult part for them, b'coz they are not taught tamil properly.So, the solution could be to encourage them to read many tamil story books so that they get exposed to more tamil words & really appreciate it.
You see tamil remains a languauge of the 'learned', even now.
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14th July 2006, 04:20 AM
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correct me if i am wrong pls
i thought theermaanithal means - deciding conclusively
judging usualy mentioned as- edai pOduthal ( e: thappaaka edai Potaan )
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8th August 2006, 07:10 PM
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Tamil names of chemical elements
ZIRCOMIUM - வன்தங்கம் - van-thangam - "hard gold" -
CHLORINE - பாசிகை - origin from moss (paasi) - paasigai
COBALT - மென்வெள்ளி - men veLLi - "soft silver" -
NICKEL - வன்வெள்ளி - van veLLi - "hard silver" -
NITROGEN - இலவணவாயு, ருசரகம் - ilavaNavaayu or rusaragam
HYDROGEN நீரியம், நீரசம் - neeriyam, neerasam (from water - neer)
POTASSIUM - தீமுறி theemuri from fire (thee)
SILICON - மண்ணியம் - maNNiyam - from sand (maN)
SODIUM - உவர்மம் uvarmam (uvarppu saltiness)
RADIUM - கருகன் - karugan turns black immediately after being cut after exposure to air
TUNGSTEN - மெல்லிழையம் - mellizhaiyam -property of making thin filaments - mellizhai -
URANIUM - அடரியம் - adariam from adarthi - density (densest metal)
BROMINE நெடியம் nediam nedi = punjent odour
CADMIUM நீலீயம் neeleeyam blue lead
Tantalum இஞ்சாயம் - injaayam
XENON அணுகன் - aNugan
FLUORINE வினைவியம் - vinaiviyam - vinai = chemical reaction - Fl is highly reactive
MAGNESIUM வல்லகுவம் vallaguvam valu + lagu = strong + light
LITHIUM மென்னியம் - Mennium menmai soft
Thorium இடியம் idiam idi = thunder = thor
Iodine நைலம் - nailam
Platinum வெண்தங்கம் ven thangam lighter shade of gold
Argon இலியன் iliyan from seyal ili (inactive)
GALLIUM மென்தங்கம் men thangam soft gold (liquid is vast temperature range, gold colour)
ALUMINIUM அளமியம் alamiyam from aLam = salt pan
Rubidium அர்மிமம் armimam
Rhodium அரத்தியம் arathiyam rose
Dysprosium அரியம் ariyam (rareness)
Anthanum அருங்கனியம் arunganiyam (rareness)
Neodymium இரட்டியம் - irattiyam
Antimony கருநிமிளை, அஞ்சனம்
HELIUM எல்லியம் -
Iridium உறுதியம் uRudhiyam uRudhi = toughness
Sulphur கந்தகம் - kandhagam
Calcium - சுண்ணம் chuNNam from chuNNaambu - limestone
Iron இரும்பு
Copper தாமிரம், செம்பு, செப்பு thaamiram, chembu, cheppu all three are ancient names for Copper
Zinc துத்தநாகம் thuthunaagam
Arsenic பிறாக்காண்டம் - piRakkaaNDam
Bismuth அம்பரை, நிமிளை, மதுர்ச்சி ambarai, nimiLai, madhurchchi
MERCURY பாதரசம், இதரம் - paadharasam, idharam
Lawrencium இலாரன்சியம் ilaaransiyam (by Name)
Ruthenium உருத்தீனியம் uruththeenam (name of Lake)
Illinium இல்லினியம் illiniyam (Illinois)
Ytterbium இத்தெர்பியம்
Rhenium இரினியம் iriniyam (Name of Lake)
RADON - ஆரகன் : aaragan (aaram = radius)
TITANIUM வெண்வெள்ளி - venveLLi (light silver)
Plutonium அயலாம் ayalaam (far awayin periodic table)
Potassium மெழுகியம் mezhugiyam (mezhugu wax; wax-like appearance)
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8th August 2006, 07:11 PM
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TAMIL NAMES OF CHEMICAL ELEMENTS
TAMIL NAMES OF CHEMICAL ELEMENTS
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9th August 2006, 02:43 AM
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Re: Tamil names of chemical elements
Originally Posted by
sivagaandhan
RADON - ஆரகன் : aaragan (aaram = radius)
Sivagaandhi,
The name Radon is because of its radioactivity, and it is created from Radium.
Rad, radius, aaram, aaragam ippadi ellaam konjam uNarchchi vasap pattutteengalE!
Ethu nadakkumO athu nanRaagavE nadakkum.
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14th August 2006, 11:15 AM
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அன்புள்ள அய்யா அவர்ளே,
RADON - ஆரகன் : aaragan (aaram = radius)
இப்பெயரை அவ்வாறு நான் சூட்டவில்லை. இணையத்தில் அவ்வாறு புழக்கத்தில் காணலாம்.
நன்றி.
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