Violence against women

[Sandeep]

Blahblah,

Beg to differ but the situation of Kerala women are far better than that in other parts of India. The fact that so many rape and abuse cases are getting reported itself is a proof for that. Atleast parents and the society are standing with their daughters and fighting.

Kerala women are better educated than their male counterparts and the percentage of employment is very high amound kerala women.

I am not at all suggesting everything is good and bright but definitely far far better.

About the sex ratio thing. Though you have a point I dont think that sex ratio among NRKs is huge enough to effect the sex ratio of the state. At least I am sure that girl child is not killed or abused for the reason that she is a girl by their parents or family.

[blahblah]

Blahblah,

Beg to differ but the situation of Kerala women are far better than that in other parts of India. The fact that so many rape and abuse cases are getting reported itself is a proof for that. Atleast parents and the society are standing with their daughters and fighting.

Kerala women are better educated than their male counterparts and the percentage of employment is very high amound kerala women.

I am not at all suggesting everything is good and bright but definitely far far better.

About the sex ratio thing. Though you have a point I dont think that sex ratio among NRKs is huge enough to effect the sex ratio of the state. At least I am sure that girl child is not killed or abused for the reason that she is a girl by their parents or family.

Why are we such hypocrites and denying what are only facts?

I am sure too the women in Kerala fare better than the poor souls in other states.Just to consider you arguments,I agree that they have better education than men.And jobs too-right.

The main reason is that the Kerala women themselves led a silent revolution in the 80's and 90's when they took up the noble profession of nursing which was till then looked upon with disgust.In almost every field including sports,they are better than us[applicable only to Kerala].

But none of these happened because their men were kind to them or respected their dignity in general as a society.Instead women in Kerala despite all their success,is still not allowed the socil freedom they deserve.

About the sex ratio.What are you proud of?How do you explain an adult sex ratio of 1058 and a child sex ratio 963 and their difference?Any idiot can see that something is amiss.Where did all the girls go?Aren't they simply being born?How can you be sure Sir,there isn't female infanticide in Kerala?

[Sandeep]

I dont know the ratios nor do I have proves for anything but I have felt that kerala women are doing better.

May be the environments we have seen are different. May be what I have seen around me cannot be generalised on to the whole of Kerala.

[jaiganes]

Hey guys!
I am not a keralite!
Whatever the statistics may or may not say, Kerala has one of the very few matriarchical social systems in India. That much I know. Can anyone of you explain to rest of the people what happened to that society or how things function in a matriarchical society. The only other matriarchical society in India that comes to my mind is in Meghalaya. But the status of women is better in both places. I am yet to come across a malayalee male who treats his wife or daughters badly. Explain this and we have a solution to this problem. Plus Kerala and Thamizh Nadu were one of the early states to enact legislations ensuring rights to family property for women. That too can explain something that will set things right on an Indian level.

[Sandeep]

Can anyone of you explain to rest of the people what happened to that society or how things function in a matriarchical society.

Matriarchical society is still strong in Kerala. But legally it stopped to exist since 1976. My community follow matriatchical society. I carry my mothers family name and not my father's.

So its simple if you have a girl child you family will continue. Old times even property was like that. You get property from your mothers family not your fathers. But as I said now legally this is not valid. So ,though I am a member of my mothers family, since I was born after 1976 I dont have legal rights on the family.

[scorpio]

Sandeep,

Any idea why the system was not legally made valid?

I cannot even think how our society would be if we all had initials of our moms. ( like M.Kumaran, s/o Mahalakshmi 8)

[NM]

[quote="Sandeep"]

Matriarchical society is still strong in Kerala. But legally it stopped to exist since 1976. My community follow matriatchical society. I carry my mothers family name and not my father's.
So its simple if you have a girl child you family will continue. Old times even property was like that. You get property from your mothers family not your fathers. But as I said now legally this is not valid. So ,though I am a member of my mothers family, since I was born after 1976 I dont have legal rights on the family.

Strange that we can find this society in Malaysia too, one the southern states practice this and it originates from Indonesia....perhaps the Indian kingdom brought it over to Indonesia and subsequently to M'sia.

[Sandeep]

Dont know I think as part of Unification of law.

You dont keep you mothers name but her family name.

More on the system.

Women retain thier maiden name even after marraige because even after marraige they dont become part of husbands family.

[sonu gopi]

[quote="NM"]

Matriarchical society is still strong in Kerala. But legally it stopped to exist since 1976. My community follow matriatchical society. I carry my mothers family name and not my father's.
So its simple if you have a girl child you family will continue. Old times even property was like that. You get property from your mothers family not your fathers. But as I said now legally this is not valid. So ,though I am a member of my mothers family, since I was born after 1976 I dont have legal rights on the family.

Strange that we can find this society in Malaysia too, one the southern states practice this and it originates from Indonesia....perhaps the Indian kingdom brought it over to Indonesia and subsequently to M'sia.

Yes, NM we find this practised widely in the State of Negri Sembilan (9 principilities makes the state of N. Sembilan) - they are ppl of Minangkabau origin from Bukit Tinggi, Sumatra - Indonesia.

I was really amazed when I see the similarities of my origin with that of my Minangkabau friends here in Malaysia.

Sonu Gopi

[jaiganes]

sonu gopi wrote:

Yes, NM we find this practised widely in the State of Negri Sembilan (9 principilities makes the state of N. Sembilan) - they are ppl of Minangkabau origin from Bukit Tinggi, Sumatra - Indonesia.

Interesting to know this. Tell me what is the state of men(the non dominant sex) over there? If it is something better compared to the state of women in patriarchical societies, then it is something that ppl in general can adopt and improve their social indicators.