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22nd March 2010, 09:25 AM
#31
Originally Posted by
thamiz
Are we not having old people with a "spectrum of attitude" (good, bad and awkward) just like young people?
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22nd March 2010 09:25 AM
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22nd March 2010, 11:51 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by
thamiz
Originally Posted by
Punnaimaran
Rajan.
The comments, as 'பெருசு வீட்டுல சொல்லிட்டு வந்துட்டியா', can be heard only in Chennai in my experience .
Such a comment irritates me as much as when an old man demands respect just for his age and not for what he really is!
Are we not having old people with a "spectrum of attitude" (good, bad and awkward) just like young people?
Yes, but then it doesn't hurt anyone if they give respect to elders. I do not mean that you have to listen to all they say, just basic respect.
quote suba
//yaara iruntha ennanga... mariyaathai kodukka vendiyathu namma kadamai.
enna kettu pochu...????
of course, athai kaapaathikarathum keduthukarathum receiver's choice.//
I agree with this.
இந்தக் காட்டில் எந்த மூங்கில் இசைக்க வல்லது என்று மயங்கிய பொழுது
இறைவன் தேர்ந்தெடுத்தப் புல்லாங்குழல் தான் நம் இசைஞானி !!
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23rd March 2010, 03:51 AM
#33
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To live a balanced life, one needs a healthy dose of humility and self-confidence. Humility without self-confidence would lead to becoming a door mat, while self-confidence untempered by humility would very soon become arrogance.
Respecting others helps cultivate the humility aspect. It is best to respect everyone - their feelings, their opinions, beliefs etc. But sometimes, just the make-up of the human psyche makes it very difficult to respect one's peers or those that are below one's level in terms of age in the same way as one's superiors or the elderly.
Just the way we have been conditioned (and I am not saying this is right or wrong, just the way it is) makes it seem ludicrous to us to accord the same respect to a 10-year old that one would give to a 60-year old.
With the 10-year old, one is expected to be assertive. If only more people were assertive, you would probably not find 12 and 15 yr olds smoking, and behaving in anti-social manners. Being assertive with them might teach them respect!
But if you were assertive with everyone, then where will we learn humility? Therefore it was mandated "Respect the elders".
Those that are greater than you in age are to be respected.
But let us understand this very clearly - it is not for the sake of the elders, but for our own sake. It is so that we may learn to respect and be humble, rather than what the elderly deserve etc. as has been the burden of this topic!
In saying "it doesn't hurt to respect"etc, we are thinking of it as doing them a favour by respecting, and that we don't lose anything by it. But look at it differently, and you might find rather than not losing anything by it, you might actually gain something from it!
Again, I am not saying this is how it should be; rather I am putting out an angle for consideration! If we look at it as benefiting us, then mayhap we would not be so reluctant in adopting a respectful attitude, despite what the other person deserves or not.
When we stop labouring under the delusion of our cosmic self-importance, we are free of hindrance, fear, worry and attachment. We are liberated!!!
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23rd March 2010, 12:51 PM
#34
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Badri
And those who were seen dancing, were thought to be insane, by those who could not hear the music - Friedrich Nietzsche
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23rd March 2010, 01:43 PM
#35
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Badri,
I am not too sure about this. I think that older people have enough experience to take some disrepect in their stride. I find that it is the younger people who are more sensitive and one should be careful with them. Often older people like me do not have enough time to reason with them and hide behind respect. I remember that I slapped my son when he was about seven years old. He said that I should explain to him what he did wrong and just slapping did not serve any purpose.
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24th March 2010, 03:04 AM
#36
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You are saying, Why cant wise old people tolerate the ignorant reckless young people? And that their experience should have helped them to be "immune" to such "immature attitude" of young people!
Well that is what "wise old people" will do!
Then, How about one who is old but not wise enough?
Wise young people should consider "such old people" as well and just respect all the old people for their age as suggested here!
When that settles, the biggest question is "How do you define the "respect"?
The expected "respect" can be more complicated than what one thinks!
This is a very big world!
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29th March 2010, 01:05 PM
#37
Junior Member
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Sometimes, I feel arguments with the elders is not more so to make them agree to what we are saying. Rather, the argument is to allow us to say what we want to say.
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