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3rd April 2011, 12:45 AM
#731
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3rd April 2011 12:45 AM
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3rd April 2011, 12:55 AM
#732
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3rd April 2011, 01:05 AM
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3rd April 2011, 01:09 AM
#734
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Originally Posted by
littlemaster1982
Dhoni

Now Dhoni is officially the best captain India ever had (surpassing Kapil Dev)

Crap.
a) The team Kapil had
b) beating THAT West Indies side? (which would thrash this current Indian side & then some)
...an artist without an art.
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3rd April 2011, 02:03 AM
#735
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I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it.
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3rd April 2011, 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by
kid-glove
Crap.
a) The team Kapil had
b) beating THAT West Indies side? (which would thrash this current Indian side & then some)
You are welcome to disagree, but let's leave it at that
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3rd April 2011, 02:25 AM
#737
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There's no logic to say Dhoni is a better captain/leader. Kapil's 83 achievement is infinitely more miraculous. The finals is also on another level. To defend 183 against that Windies side. Some would switch to Dhoni's SIX, but THE touchstone moment of Indian Cricket is when Kapil runs back to catch Viv Richards off Madan Lal's bowling.
...an artist without an art.
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3rd April 2011, 09:10 AM
#738
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Dhoni - mind power. Sheer will to bend fate to his designs. 
Kid, this is Dhoni's moment. Freeya vidunga. Kapil just had that World Cup. Dhoni has a lot more with more to come. Yet, it would be churlish to deny Kapil his credit, I agree. The odds he surmounted, including a bunch of seniors who didn't exactly want him to glory, unlike this group blessed with seniors like Sachin and Zaheer, who is a mini-captain by himself, were unbelievable. And 175 from 17/5. Now, that's some inspirational innings. Frankly, that team was mediocre and this is a much better team. You've got to give it to this bunch.(Even Bhajji is better - they had, like, Ravi Shastri as spinner
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But that debate is for another day.
This day Dhoni is ThE MaN. Glory be to the Badshah of Indian Cricket - this is your destiny andyou deserve it for the sheer calm and composure you brought to the team. This Cup is first and foremost yours, never mind the Top performances from Yuvi, Sachin, Gautam, Zaheer, Kohli and Ashwin.
One rikkost: Pls understand the need to groom an attacking spinner. Kaila veNNai irukku. Please Dalda-vai teamlErundhu eduththuttu veNNaiya neiyyA kAichunga
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3rd April 2011, 09:17 AM
#739
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The closest Dhoni came to revealing what ticks his mind is the bit about potential questions on Ashwin, Sree, Yuvi at #5 and so on, motivating him to finish it off himself.
That speaks of a mindset of the winners/achievers. Their high comes in bending fate to their will. Everything else comes second. They set a target, and give everything they have in pursuit. Such an approach always brings glory. Not because they always take the perfect decision - as Dhoni demonstrated, he made some blunders that could have killed any other match or captain - but they come through, not because it is fate but because they have this primal desire to stamp their mark on the moment. It has taken me time - but I understood a valuable lesson yesterday when he said that. You shape moments. Moments don't shape you.
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3rd April 2011, 09:31 AM
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