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    அன்பு முரளி சார்,

    வணக்கம். தங்களது பெண்ணின் பெருமை பற்றிய ஆய்வுக் கட்டுரை அருமை.சுவாரஸ்யமான அலசல். நன்றி!

    இந்தப் படம் வெளிவந்த போது சில விமர்சனங்கள் வெளியாயின என்று கேள்விப்பட்டிருக்கிறேன். நடிப்பில் நடிகர்திலகத்தை திருவாளர் ஜெமினி கணேசன் விஞ்சி விட்டார் என்பதே அது.

    பொதுவாகவே ஒரு கதாநாயகன் பாத்திரம் அப்பாவியாகவோ அல்லது மனவளர்ச்சி குன்றிய குழந்தை போன்றோ அமைந்து விட்டால், வெகு சுலபமாக மக்கள் மனதில்[ நடிப்புத் திறமை ஓரளவு இருந்தால் கூட போதும் ]
    நுழைந்து விட முடியும். அது அந்தக் கேரக்டரின் தன்மை. அதற்கு எதிர் மறையாக அந்த அப்பாவி கதாநாயகனை கொடுமைப் படுத்தும் வில்லன் ரோலில் ஒரு நடிகர் மக்கள் மனதில் கோலோச்சுவது மிக மிகக் கடினம். அதை இந்தப் படத்தின் மூலம் செய்து காட்டியவர் நடிகர் திலகம் அவர்கள்.

    நடிகர் திலகத்தின் அசுர வளர்ச்சியை பொறுக்க முடியாத சிலர் செய்த பிரச்சாரம் தான் அது. தன் முதல் காவியமான பராசக்தியிலேயே நடிப்பின் சிகரங்களைத் தொட்டவர் அவர். ' இமேஜ் ' என்ற வளையத்துக்குள் சிக்காமல், முதல் படத்திலேயே ஹீரோ, உடனே 5- ஆவது படத்திலேயே முழு வில்லன் என்று ஆரம்ப கால கட்டங்களிலேயே அதை உடைத்தெறிந்தவர். சூரியனை ஒரு கை கொண்டு மறைக்க முடியுமா?

    பின்னாட்களில் திரு.ஜெமினிகணேசன் அவர்கள் மாடர்ன் தியேட்டேர்ஸ் தயாரிப்பில்' வல்லவனுக்கு வல்லவன்' என்ற திரைப் படத்தில் வில்லனாக நடித்தார் என்பது குறிப்பிடத் தக்கது.

    நன்றி!

    அன்புடன்,

    நெய்வேலி வாசுதேவன்.

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    டியர் பார்த்தசாரதி,
    தாங்கள் கூறியது முற்றிலும் சரி. பெண்ணின் பெருமை திரைக்காவியத்தைப் பொறுத்த வரையில் முற்றிலும் அனுதாபம் கிட்டக் கூடிய பாத்திரத்தை ஏற்று நடிப்பவர்களுக்குக் கிடைக்கக் கூடிய வரவேற்பை மிஞ்சி கொடுமை நிறைந்த வில்லன் பாத்திரத்தை ஏற்று நடித்து அதை வெற்றிகரமாக தன்ககு சாதகமாக பயன் படுத்திக் கொண்ட நடிகர் நடிகர் திலகம் மட்டுமே. மேற்கத்திய திரைப்படங்களில் இவ்வாறு கதாநாயகனை மிஞ்சி வில்லன் வேடம் தரித்து புகழ் வாங்கிய நடிகர்களில் குறிப்பிடத் தக்கவர்களில் ஓமர் ஷெரீப் மற்றும் மால்கம் மெக்டொவெல் போன்றோர் உண்டு. ஆனால் அவர்களால் கதாநாயகனாகவோ அல்லது மற்ற பாத்திரங்களிலோ அந்த அளவிற்கு புகழ் பெற முடியவில்லை என்று அந்தக் காலத்தில் கேள்விப் பட்டுள்ளேன். ஆனால் எந்தப் பாத்திரமானால் என்ன, ஊதித்தள்ளிவிடுவதில் சூரர் நடிகர் திலகம். இதே அடிப்படையில் தான் வாசுதேவன் அவர்களும் தன் கருத்தை கூறியிருக்கிறார்.

    அன்புடன்
    விமர்சனங்களுக்கு அப்பாற்பட்ட இறைவன் நடிகர் திலகம்.. கடலின் ஆழத்தை அளந்து விடலாம். நடிகர் திலகத்தின் செல்வாக்கை அளக்க முடியாது... அது பயனளிக்கும் போது தான் அதன் ஆழம் புரியும்....

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    திருச்சி சிவாஜி கணேசன் மன்றம் சார்பில் வெளியிடப் பட்டுள்ள நெடுந்தகட்டின் முகப்பு மற்றும் வெளியீட்டு நிழற்படங்கள். இவற்றை அனுப்பி வைத்த அன்புச் சகோதரர் பொன்மலை திரு ஸ்ரீநிவாசன் அவர்களுக்கு நமது உளமார்ந்த நன்றி.







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    அன்புடன்
    Last edited by RAGHAVENDRA; 9th August 2011 at 04:15 PM.
    விமர்சனங்களுக்கு அப்பாற்பட்ட இறைவன் நடிகர் திலகம்.. கடலின் ஆழத்தை அளந்து விடலாம். நடிகர் திலகத்தின் செல்வாக்கை அளக்க முடியாது... அது பயனளிக்கும் போது தான் அதன் ஆழம் புரியும்....

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    నటవిశ్వరూపం శివాజీగణేశన్
    NATAVISWARUPAM SIVAJI GANESAN

    written by కుసుమకుమారి Published in Visahala Andhra.


    తమిళనాడులో నటులు పూనకం పట్టినట్టుగా నటిస్తారని ఉత్తరాది సినీపరిశ్రమ చెప్పుకునేది.వారు అతి చిన్నరోల్*కూడా అతి పెద్దగానే ఏక్ట్*చేస్తారు. అందుకు కారణం 1950నుంచి 1980 వరకు 30ఏళ్లపాటు ఆటైపు నటీనటులే వచ్చారు. ఎవరిని చూసినా శృతిమించిన నటనతో రెచ్చిపోతుండేవారు. వారిలో అగ్రగణ్యుడు నడిగర తిలకగమ్* శివాజీగణేశన్*. ఆయనతో సిన్మాతీస్తే కథలేకపోయినా చిత్రంలో సరైన పాటలు మాటలు ఏవి లేకపోయినా ఆయనుంటేచాలు తమిళ ప్రేక్షకులు చూసితీరుతారనే నమ్మకం ఆయనతో తీసే నిర్మాతలకు ఉండేది. 80 దర్శకులు ఆయనతో చేసారు. వారిలో భీమ్*సింగ్*, ఏసి.త్రిలోక్*చందర్*, డి.యోగానంద్*, సేతు మాధవన్*, కె.విజయన్*, క్రిష్ణన్*పంజు వంటి వారు ఒక్కొక్కరు 20చిత్రాలు శివాజీతో చేసారు.

    Tollywood film industry had the opinion and said that Tamil Nadu Actors are thinking like as they are created by GOD. Even in small roles they show their acting skill more than what required. The reason for this - from 1950 to 1980, these type of actors came into existence. Everyone were acting beyond their capacity. The foremost person is Nadagar Thilakam Sivaji Ganesan. (I don’t agree). The belief of producers is that without any story, songs and dialogues but only the his (NT) presence makes Tamil audience to see his films. More than 80 Directors made films with him. In that Bhimsingh, A.C.Thrilokchander, D.Yoganand, Sethumadhavan, K.Vijayan, Krishnan Punju made more or less 20 films each.




    నటన అంటేప్రాణం. ఈతరహానటుడు ఏభాషలో లేరు. శివాజీ సిన్మా షఉటింగ్* జరుగుతున్నప్పుడు ఏకొంత విరామం లభించినా ఆయన ఆ పాత్రతోనే అవే హావభావాలతో తిరుగాడేవారు. పాలేరువేషమైతే లంచ్*లో నేలమీద కూర్చుని ఇంటి నుంచి వచ్చినకేరియర్* విప్పి పనివాడిలా గోడకు చేరగిలబడి ఆబగాతింటుంటే తోటినటులు ఆశ్చర్యపోయేవారు. తను ఈరోజు నటించే సీన్లకు ఇది ఉప యోగపడుతుంది అని చెప్పేవారు. కర్ణుడుగా చేస్తున్నప్పుడు ప్రశాంతగా, గంభీరంగా స్టూడియో లాన్స్*లో బిగదీసుకుని నడుస్తుండే వారు. దర్శకనిర్మాత బి.ఆర్*.పంతులు ఆశ్చర్యపోయేవారు. అది శివాజీకి వున్న నటపిచ్చి. దాంతో కెమెరా ముందు చెలరేగేవారు.
    For Sivaji Ganesan Acting is life. This type of actor is not present in any other language. During breaks in shooting shootings he used to practicing acting. For acting as servant he used to sit on the floor leaning the wall and eating food brought from his house which made co-stars surprised. He used to tell to his co-stars that practicing like that will help in excel in scenes. In the Movie, Karna as a role of Karna, he was walking stiffly in lawns of studios with patience and proud till the shooting of the film over. Director cum Producer B.R.Punthulu was surprised. Sivaji was uncontrollable in front of the camera while acting.


    శ్రీశ్రీ వంటి మహాకవి చెప్పకనే చెప్పారు అయ్యా మీకునచ్చిననటుడు ఎవరు అని అడిగితే ప్రపంచ మహానటుడు శివాజీయే అని కుండబద్దలు కొట్టేవారు. తమిళనాడులో నేటికి శివాజీకి ఫస్ట్*మార్కు వస్తుంది. కుముదం అనే తమిళ వారపత్రిక ఒకసర్వేలో శివాజీకి 35శాతం, ఎమ్*జిఆర్* 30, రజనీ20, కమల్*15 శాతంగా ఫలితాలు వెలువడ్డాయి. అంటే శివాజీ నటనకు తమిళప్రజలు ఎంతగా ఆరాదిస్తున్నారో అర్దమ వుతుంది. అక్కడ నేటికి శివాజీని నటనపరంగా మెచ్చనివారులేరు.

    When asked great poet like Srisri who is the best actor, he categorically said Sivaji is the world famous great actor. Even today Shivaji gets first mark in Tamil nadu. Tamil weekly magazine Kumudam conducted survey in which Shivaji got 35%, MGR 30%, Rajani 20% and Kamal 15%. This means Tamil audience likes Sivaji’s acting. No one dislikes his acting in Tamil nadu even today.


    శివాజీగణేశన్* విళ్లుపురంలో చిన్నయమండ్రాయర్*, రాజ మణి అమ్మయార్*లకు 1-10-1928లో జన్మిం చారు. అప్పటికే తండ్రి స్వాతంత్రపోరులో ఉన్నం దున జైలుకు తరలింపబడ్డారు. పదేళ్లప్రాయంలో శివాజీకి నటనపిచ్చి అంకురించింది. ఎక్కడ నాటకాలు వేసినా చూసి ఆడైలాగులు చెప్పడంతో తల్లి బాలగానసభ అనే నాటక కంపెనీలో చేర్పించింది. దాని నిర్వాహకుడు పొన్నుస్వామిపిళ్లే శివాజీలో నటన పటిమచూసి ఆశ్చర్యపోవడమే కాకుండా నాటకరంగాన్ని ఏలుతావు అని భుజంతట్టేవారు. అప్పటికి వీరపాండ్యకట్టబొమ్మన నాటకం వేయడానికి ఆంగ్లప్రభువులు అప్రకటిత నిషేధాన్ని విధించారు. దాన్ని కంబళా త్తాన్* కూత్తుపేరిట ప్రదర్శిస్తుండేవారు. దాన్ని ఎవరువేసినా చూసేవాడు. అలా శివాజీలో పూనకంతోకూడిన నటన చిరుత ప్రాయం నుంచే అలవడింది.

    Sivaji Ganesan was born in Villupuram on 1-10-1928 for Chinnayyamandrayar and Rajamani Ammayar. At that time his father was freedom fighter and went to jail. At the age of 10 years he was mad about acting. After seeing dramas he was repeating the dialogues and this made his mother joined him in Balagana Sabha drama company. After seeing his acting owner of the company Ponnusamy Pillai was surprised and encouraged him and wished him that he will rule the film industry. Veerapaandya Kattabomman drama was banned by Britishers. That drama was exhibited as Kambalathankuthu. Whoever acts in that drama he was seeing it and from that young age he was very serious about acting.


    1952లో శివాజీ తమిళతెరమీద కన్పించాలనే తహ తహలోఉన్నప్పుడు తెలుగు నిర్మాత ఆదినారాయణరావు అంజలి తాము తీసిన పరదేశి చిత్రంలో ఒకవేషమిచ్చారు. అందుకే ఆయన ఆదంప తులకు ఎనలేని గౌరవమిచ్చేవారు.తర్వాత భక్తతుకారాం తీసినపుడు శివాజీ వేషం వేయమని అప్పటికే ఆయన స్టార్*డమ్*లో ఉన్నందున వేషం చిన్నదే ఎంత ఇవ్వాలో చెబితే ఇస్తామని నిర్మాతలు అడిగారు. నాకు తొలిచిత్ర అవకాశం కల్పించిన మీకు ఈచిత్రం ఉచితంగా చేస్తామని చేసారు. సెట్*లో అంజలి, ఆదినారాయణరావులవద్ద మంచి నీళ్లుకూడా తీసుకోకుండా నటించారు.

    In 1952 Sivaji was very much interested to appear on the screen. At that time Telugu producer Adhinarayana Rao and Anjali Devi produced a film “Paradesi” and given first time acting chance for Sivaji. But Paraskati released first. For giving this opportunity he never forget was grateful to them. They produced a film “Bhaktha Thukaram” and told Sivaji to act a small role - when Sivaji was in stardom in Tamil and told him they will pay whatever he wants. But Sivaji refused to take any remuneration and said “since you have given me chance for first time acting in film I will act without taking any money”. Without taking even a glass of water he acted in that movie for them.


    చిన్న తనంలో ఎక్కువగా శివాజీవేషం వేసినందునే ఆయ నకా పేరు వచ్చింది. చిన్నయ్యపిళ్ళై గణేశన్* జన్మనామం.ఇక ఆయన తొలితమిళచిత్రం పరాశక్తి 25 వారాలు నడిచింది. దానికి కరుణానిధి రచయిత ఈ ఇద్దరు కలిసి పలుచిత్రాలుచేసారు. ఇక ఆయన నటించే చిత్రాలలో 100చిత్రాలవరకు 25 వారాలు నడిచి లాభాలు తెచ్చినవిగా శివాజీ చిత్రమాలికలో నమోద య్యాయి. ఆయన తో సిన్మాఅంటే దర్శకనిర్మాతలకు,చిత్రం చూసే జనాలకు పండుగ కర్ణచిత్రంలో ఎన్*టిఆర్* సయి తం శివాజీని చూసి ముచ్చటపడ్డారు. రక్తసంబం దం,కలిసిఉంటేకలదుసుఖం,ఆత్మబందువు కొండవీటి సింహం చిత్రాలు ఎన్*టిఆర్*కు మంచి పేరు తెచ్చినవే అయినా అవి అంతకుముందు శివాజీతో నిర్మితం కావడంవలన నటనకు పరాకాష్ట కావడంతో ఎన్*టిఆర్*కు నటనపరంగా పేరురాలేదు. ఈసమస్య అక్కినేనికూడా ఎదుర్కొన్నారు. ధర్మదాత, నవరాత్రి చిత్రాలు అక్కినేనికి శివాజీకి మించిపోయి పేరురాలేదు. ఇలా శివాజీ నటనకు సరితూగడం కష్టమే అన్నంతగా ఆయన ఉండేవారు. ఎన్*టిఆర్* కొన్నిచిత్రాల్లో శివాజీని తలపింపచేస్తారు. మేజర్* చంద్రకాంత్*లో ఎన్టీఆర్* వీరపాండ్యకట్టబొమ్మన ఉరితీసే సన్నివేశంలో కన్పిస్తారు. అక్కడ శివాజీ అనుకరణతోనే సాగుతుంది. అంటే ఎన్*టిఆర్*కు శివాజీ నటన మీద అంతగురి ఉండేది. తాను స్వంతంగాతీసే చంఢశాసనుడు తమిళ్*లో శివాజీతో తీసారు. రెండుభాషల్లో చిత్రం ఫెయిల్* అయ్యింది. తెలుగు కంటే తమిళ్*లో ఒకింత మెరుగయ్యింది.
    In his younger days he was acting as Sivaji hence he got that name but his name was Chinnayya Pillai Ganeshan. His first film Parasakthi ran for 25 weeks. Karunanidhi was writer for that film. Both jointly worked for many films. For about 100 films in which he acted ran for 25 weeks and earned profit was recorded in Sivaji Chitramalika. For Producers and Directors making film with him and public viewing his film is a festival. After seeing Sivaji’s acting in Karna film NTR was very happy. In acting Rakthasambandham, Kalisivunte Kaladusukam, Athmabandhuvu, Kondaveeti Simham films NTR got good name but before this Sivaji acted in tamil in these films very effectively and hence NTR has not got name in acting as much as Sivaji. Even Akkineni (ANR) also faced the same problem. In acting in Dharmadatha, Navarathri films Akkineni did not get more name than Sivaji. Akkineni thought that to be acting like or equal with Sivaji is very difficult. In some films like Major Chandrakanth NTR acting was great. In hanging seen (in MC movie) he copied acting of Sivaji from Veerapandiya Kattaboman. This means and clearly shows that NTR has got good opinion on Sivaji. In NTR own production Sivaji acted in tamil version of Chandasasanudu, this film failed in two languages but it is better in tamil. (I don’t know which Movie)

    శివాజీ తమిళతెరపై నెంబర్* ఒన్* అయినా ఆయననటనలో పర్వతాకారంలో ఉన్నా ఆయన ఎందుకో రాజకీయంలో రాణించలేక పోయారు.ఎమ్*జిఆర్*తో తెరమీద పోటీ దీర్ఘకాలం సాగింది. అక్కడ కూడా ఎమ్*జిఆర్* ఫస్*్తప్లేస్*లో వుండేవారు. పైగా ఆయనవన్నీ మాస్* చిత్రాలే.ఇకరాజకీయాల్లో శివాజీ ఏమీసాధించలేకపోయారు. నటిస్తునే మరణించాలనే కోరికతో ఆయన చివరివరకు నటించారు. 1960లో కైరోలో బెస్ట్* యాక్టర్* అవార్డు తీసుకున్నారు. ఇక అవార్డులకు కొదవేలేదు. పద్మశ్రీ, పద్మభూషన్* వంటి వాటితో ప్రభుత్వం ఆయన్ని సత్కరించింది.
    Shivaji was No.1 on screen. In acting he was top most - but failed in politics. For very long time MGR was competing with Sivaji. Even there MGR was in plus position. More over all his films were mass films. In politics Sivaji could not gain anything. His ambition was to act till his last breath and want to die while acting and he ready to die for acting. In 1960 he got best actor award in Cairo. No limit for awards. Government of India respected him with Padmashree and Padmabushan.

    ఆమహానటుడు చెన్నరు అపోలోలో తన 73ఏట 21జూలై 2001లో చికిత్స పొందుతూ తుదిశ్వాస విడిచారు.
    This great actor died at the age of 73 years on 21st July 2001 while undergoing treatment at Apollo Hospital in Chennai.


    thank to Mr.C.Rajendra Prasad (my collegue) who transalte this article. Any error or grammer mistake will be exeused

    NT with Chandra babu and C.Rangarajan

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    NT WITH PT


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    டியர் ராகவேந்திரன் சார், ராமஜெயம் சார், குமரேசன்பிரபு சார், சந்திரசேகரன் சார் மற்றும் அனைவருக்கும் எனது நெஞ்சார்ந்த நன்றிகள் !

    டியர் பாலா சார், ஆங்கில மொழிபெயர்ப்புக்கும், அபூர்வ நிழற்படங்களுக்கும் கனிவான நன்றிகள் !

    அன்புடன்,
    பம்மலார்.
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    அண்ணலின் ஆகஸ்ட் அற்புதங்கள்

    நான் வாழவைப்பேன்

    [10.8.1979 - 10.8.2011] : 33வது உதயதினம்

    பொக்கிஷப் புதையல்

    படக்காட்சி : பொம்மை : செப்டம்பர் 1978



    பட விளம்பரம் : தினத்தந்தி : 10.3.1979
    [10.3.1979 சனிக்கிழமையன்று மதுரையில் நடைபெற்ற நடிகர் திலகத்தின் பிரம்மாண்டமான 200வது படவிழா("திரிசூலம்" விழா)வினை வாழ்த்தி வழங்கப்பட்ட விளம்பரம்]



    முதல் வெளியீட்டு விளம்பரம் : முரசொலி : 10.8.1979



    100வது நாள் விளம்பரம் : தினத்தந்தி : 17.11.1979


    அன்புடன்,
    பம்மலார்.
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    In 1952 Sivaji was very much interested to appear on the screen. At that time Telugu producer Adhinarayana Rao and Anjali Devi produced a film “Paradesi” and given first time acting chance for Sivaji. But Paraskati released first. For giving this opportunity he never forget was grateful to them. They produced a film “Bhaktha Thukaram” and told Sivaji to act a small role - when Sivaji was in stardom in Tamil and told him they will pay whatever he wants. But Sivaji refused to take any remuneration and said “since you have given me chance for first time acting in film I will act without taking any money”. Without taking even a glass of water he acted in that movie for them.


    டியர் பாலா சார்,

    தாங்கள் அளித்துள்ள தகவல் சற்று புதிதாக உள்ளது, இதுவரை நாம் அறிந்தவரை பராசக்தி படத்தில் தான் முதலில் ஒப்பந்தம் செய்யப்பட்டு அதன் பிறகு தான் மற்ற படங்களில் நடிக்க ஆரம்பித்தார் என்று கேள்விபட்டிருக்கிறோம்.
    இதற்க்கு சான்றாக நடிகர் திலகம் அவர்களே பராசக்தி படம் பற்றி தனது சுயசரிதையில் குறிப்பிட்டுள்ளார்.

    டியர் பம்மலார் சார்,

    இதற்க்கு (பரதேசி படம் )ஆதாரமாக அந்த காலகட்டத்தில் வந்த பத்திரிக்கை செய்தி ஏதேனும் இருந்தால் இங்கு பதிவேற்றம் செய்யும் படி வேண்டுகிறேன்.
    அன்றும் இன்றும் என்றும் நடிகர்திலகத்தின் நிரந்தர ரசிகன்

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    I have watched Naan vaazhavaippEn in bits and pieces a long time ago. I dont remember seeing Jai Ganesh in the movie.
    Did Super Star replace Jai Ganesh?
    kaadhal iLavarasan kalaith thiRanai nI ariyaai!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RC View Post
    I have watched Naan vaazhavaippEn in bits and pieces a long time ago. I dont remember seeing Jai Ganesh in the movie.
    Did Super Star replace Jai Ganesh?
    Hello RC,

    Jai Ganesh has played as KR. Vijaya's brother in this movie, so he is in this movie.

    Sathish

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