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19th August 2011, 07:50 PM
#2151
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Originally Posted by
SoftSword
venki,
are all these stanzas from the same song...?
arttham ellaam nallaa irukku... aana consistency illayae...
first two looks are too formal while the next two sound casual and folksy...
+1. For example the thoppuL kodi pudichu (should have been pidiththu to be consistent with the first 2 stanzas). And the eppa thodangiyadhO does not sit well at all.
Kaattu vazhi is the clear winner in the album. Bloody brilliant. Though Mavicka V had sung neeral udal kazhuvi well, its a Raja song. He should have sung it. Enna Pol / Unnai Pol are sort of OK, the other two are forgettable.
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19th August 2011 07:50 PM
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19th August 2011, 09:32 PM
#2152
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Originally Posted by
Nerd
Though Mavicka V had sung neeral udal kazhuvi well, its a Raja song. He should have sung it.
இப்படி விமர்சனம் செய்வதால் "கூட்டுருவாக்கம்" என்ற முயற்சியின் பலனே தெரியாமல் போய்விடுகிறது. ராஜா குரலில் நன்றாகவே இருக்கும். அதே வேளையில் மற்ற தேர்ந்த பாடகர்கள் செய்தாலும் நன்றாகவே இருக்கும் என்பது என் தாழ்மையான கருத்து. அம்மா என்றழைக்காத உயிரில்லையே பாடல் வசதியாக ராஜாவே பாடி முடித்திருக்க வேண்டிய இன்னொரு அம்மா பாடல். ஆனால் யேசுதாஸ் பாடிய வடிவமும் அழகா இருந்தது. மா.விநாயகம் சிறந்த பாடகர். தமிழை கணீரென்ற குரலில் உச்சஸ்தாயில் பாடக் கூடிய பாடகர். நீரால் உடல் கழுவி பாடலின் உணர்வை சரிவர வெளிப்படுத்தியிருக்கிறார். இந்தப் பாடலை இவர் பாடியிருக்கலாம் என்ற பார்வை ஒரு முற்றுப்புள்ளியில் நிற்கவே நிற்காது. கமா வைத்தால் போல, போய்க்கொண்டே இருக்கும்.
சொல்லிச் சொல்லி ஆறாது சொன்னா துயர் தீராது...
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19th August 2011, 11:43 PM
#2153
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I am fully with Venki here. I can't think of any other voice doing justice to this song after hearing Manicka Vinayagam. The way he has controlled the expression, the way he was able to hit the right registers, the overall feel he could get to the song are terrific. Some voices have an unique quality. Manicka V's voice is one of them. Not the best voice around and in other songs I have heard him struggle, but in this song his voice fits to a 'T'. Absolutely no complaints and should appreciate Raja for this selection.
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20th August 2011, 04:36 AM
#2154
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Shri Rama Rajyam - ok ok got it now - in the song "seetharama charithram", 45 seconds before "yendhuku ee parikshaa", the segment strongly resembles "yemmayey aanda ...immaiyey ennai chikkene pidithu.. engezundhu aruluvadhiniyey" from "umbarkatkarasey" from TIS !!
anyone else noticed the same ?
this man has got some creative juice in him to use two different melodic motifs from the same source but for a shaivite song as well as a vaishnavite song!
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20th August 2011, 04:50 AM
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the next one : "devulle mechindi" is a briliant derivative of "vetri vetri yendru sollum koyil mani" from Kattumarakkaran - the part "inthantha shukha shanthi" is a close cousin of "ninaikAdha pirivum
nilaikAmal vilagum " and the following part is a close cousin of "idhu nedungala payanam" from vetri vetri!
IR's music is like solving SUDOKU puzzles indeed!
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20th August 2011, 10:13 AM
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Goddess Saraswathi playing veena, Lord Ganesha playing mridangam, Narada maharishi and Saraswathi singing in praise of Lord Rama and Goddess Sita with floral tributes from all over heaven and earth, when HE ascends the soorya vamsha throne of great Ayodhya for Pattabishekam. People of Ayodhya join the chant with Rishis of four vedas, devas, deva rishis to sing this Deiveega gaanam. The heaven and the whole world is filled with happiness that they have never seen.
Just when you are praying/flowering praise on Lord Rama, you don't feel he is God, he our charming, innocent child with whom you can play, scold, sing, dance, be with him all the time. That too now he has returned to our own town, just imagine how happy we should feel. It will be infinite. Just the beautiful and divine word 'Rama' is so powerful that everyone surrenders everything in their life and humbles to HIS feet. What beautiful lines!. Rama naamame amrutham. Rama mantrame taarakam. All this beautiful feeling has been excellently and accurately brought out by our by beloved Maestro, Jonnavithula, SPB and Shreya. Maestro's immaculate and unadulterated tune and orchestration brings that ecstatic love towards Rama. Thalaivar's another forte!
Raama mantrame taarakam bhava shakti mukti sandhaayakam
Raama naamame amrutram sri raama keerthanam sukrutham
Ee Raama chandrude loka rakshayani antharathma panike (what a finish!)
This song should be consumed and enjoyed as a whole without picking in parts. Nothing more to say about this song, except that this song and the entire soundtrack has already substituted the suprabhatam at our home.
Cracking start! Rajaness is next to Godliness.
Last edited by V_S; 20th August 2011 at 10:41 AM.
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20th August 2011, 10:30 AM
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While everyone is enamored with SPB and Shreya in 'Sreeramarajyam' (and rightly so) I am pleased with Tippu and Shweta. Tippu does a terrific job of 'Kalaya Nijama'. Maybe because he is in awe of Raja, he keeps well within the limits and ensures he has the grip over the emotion unlike SPB who spills it too much in his sad song. The other singer I was very impressed with was Sujatha's daughter, Shweta. In both 'Rama Rama Anu Premamandiram' and 'Idi Pattabiramuni' she gets the inflection right. She brings in the right amount of the folk touch to the song. Compared to that, though Shreya is quite melodious in 'Seetha Seemanthamu' she struggles to get the diction right. Ofcourse, the winner, from the singing point of view, is clearly Chitra. 'Ramayanamu' is probably the underrated of the songs but in my opinion the best song of the album. What a SindhuBhairavi Raja delivers. And Chitra understands Raja's mind perfectly, as if she were his elder daughter, and delivers the right amount of emotion in every line. Her diction of course is flawless. I am sure I will be listening to this song for many a years to come. As one of my friends remarked on twitter, when Chitra goes, 'emamiyya raamaiyya' it is goosebumps stuff.
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20th August 2011, 11:44 AM
#2158
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Originally Posted by
Sureshs65
Lovely Vel. Earlier I had a problem getting the meaning of a few words, after your translation I get it. Thanks.
thanks suresh, you did all the groundwork....i just built on it....
I just noticed three changes...
a) i think it is சோம்ப பிறவி மல not சோம்ப பிறவி மலை....we need to club the ""saeraam"" from next line to the "mala"...மல சேறாம் ...if that is the case, literally that means "this body is a dirty incarnation"
b) a more relevant meaning to செப்பாமே போகுதே தப்பு......தப்பு is the instrument played during death processions...செப்பாமே poguthae....means without telling the truth the instrument is merely playing the music of death....the poet laments that the musical instrument is playing loud, but is not telling the actual truth behind the birth and death cycle....
c) வெம்பினை காத்து வெரட்டுதே எம்மையே - no, i think it is வெம்பினை காத்து கலங்குதே இம்மையே ....means i am boiling, struggling & suffering to save myself in this birth
Last edited by vel; 20th August 2011 at 12:05 PM.
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20th August 2011, 12:24 PM
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நீரால் உடல்கழுவி நித்தம்நித மூவேளை...translation
First stanza:
நீரால் உடல்கழுவி நித்தம்நித மூவேளை
சோறால் குடல்கழுவும் சோம்ப பிறவி மல
சேறாம் இடர்கழுவ சேர்ந்தாயே அண்ணலடி
மாறாச் சுடர் தழுவவே.
meaning with quotes
You, lazy dirty incarnate (சோம்ப பிறவி),
who washes the body, with water (நீரால் உடல்கழுவி),
and washes your intestine, thrice a day, with food (நித்தம்நித மூவேளை
சோறால் குடல்கழுவும்),
Thou have now reached the feet of the Lord(சேர்ந்தாயே அண்ணலடி),
to wash away the stumbling block (the body - மல சேறாம் இடர்),
to embrace the unchanging light within your heart (மாறாச் சுடர் தழுவவே) !
Second Stanza:
நாறென வெள்லெலும்பை நன்கிணைத்து கட்டிவைத்து
நாறிடும் மூட்டைச் சதையொட்டி நீர்க்குருதிச்
சேரனதான எண்சான் உடம்பில் உன் நினைவே
சீருரும் தாமரை யாம்.
meaning with quotes
strung well together by the white boney strings (நாறென வெள்லெலும்பை நன்கிணைத்து கட்டிவைத்து),
packed is the stinking sac of flesh,
mixed with blood and water, all bundled, (நாறிடும் மூட்டைச் சதையொட்டி நீர்க்குருதிச்)
as the eight jaan (length) body, (சேரனதான எண்சான் உடம்பில்)
This (body) can boast of only one thing......
the memory on the lord,
shining within as the graceful beautiful lotus (உன் நினைவே
சீருரும் தாமரை யாம்.)
Third stanza:
தொப்புள் கொடிபுடிச்சி தொத்திவந்த இப்பிறப்பு
எப்ப தொடக்கியதோ எப்போ தடங்கிடுமோ
செப்பவே யாரிருக்கா செப்பனிடா பாதையிலே
செப்பாமே போகுதே தப்பு.
meaning with quotes
Clinging on to the umbilical cord,
has this birth emerged,(தொப்புள் கொடிபுடிச்சி தொத்திவந்த இப்பிறப்பு)
Where & when did it all start and
when will it all end (எப்ப தொடக்கியதோ எப்போ தடங்கிடுமோ)
Who can explain? செப்பவே யாரிருக்கா
On the unpaved rotten path, செப்பனிடா பாதையிலே
this wrongful event (of birth & death)
is continuing unabated....
the drum playing the death music ,
is playing on & on, without sharing us this secret of
life and death.....(செப்பாமே போகுதே தப்பு)
Fourth Stanza:
எம்பாவக் கப்பலில் எங்கோ புறப்பட்டோம்
சம்சாரக் கடலில் சருகாய் இடர்ப்பட்டோம்
வெம்பினை காத்து கலங்குதே இம்மையே
தம்மபயம் எந்தருளை தா.
meaning with quotes
On this ship of sin (this body),
we started somewhere, (எம்பாவக் கப்பலில் எங்கோ புறப்பட்டோம்)
we are struggling on our journey,
totally bound,
by the bonds of this 'samsaric life', (சம்சாரக் கடலில் சருகாய் இடர்ப்பட்டோம்)
we are boiling, struggling & suffering
to save ourselves in this birth, (வெம்பினை காத்து கலங்குதே இம்மையே)
Lord, please shower us with your saving grace !! (தம்மபயம் எந்தருளை தா).
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20th August 2011, 12:46 PM
#2160
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Sri Rama Rajyam
Instant nit
Veteran director Bapu’s recent films were not so successful at Box-office, so when Sri Ramarajyam was announced, none in trade circles have shown interest. Post the audio launch of the movie, Sri Ramarajyam has suddenly become hot among the trade circles. Reason is simple: the songs are instant hit. Maestro Ilayaraja's soothing and mellifluous tunes for mythological movie, Sri Ramarajyam, are being liked by everyone. Ilayaraja's songs have helped the movie get huge publicity and raised expectations on the movie.
Out of the 14 songs (including bit songs), 5 songs from album have become instant hits: 1. Jagadananda Kaaraka 2. Sita Simantham 3. Evadunnadu 4. Kalaya Nijama 5.Gaali Ningi Neeru
When contacted, Aditya Music, that is marketing the audio CDs, informed us that audio sales are fantastic. “In the recent times, we are witnessing huge demand for audio CDs for this film alone,” Aditya Music representative told us.
SRI RAMA RAJYAM CREATING RECORDS IN AUDIO CD SALES
BTW, as Someone said in twitter SRR is NinaithalE Inikkum for Raaja (in telugu)?
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