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12th December 2011, 02:44 PM
#1851
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I am surprised by the way Warner was batting as they require just under 10 runs for the win.Lyon faced many balls than Warner, I agree that the field setup would be very aggressive for eleventh batsman and the boundries would be free, but then how can you keep on ask Lyon to face most of the balls as you nearing the target and pressure was mounting. Silly batting in the end by Warner though he has done a remarkable job today. Bracewell should be the man of the match, 9 wickets boss!
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12th December 2011 02:44 PM
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12th December 2011, 02:46 PM
#1852
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Yenga Warner nalla payyan-nga. Unga fav Viru best friend ya. Viru solli than thambiyae test credentials ellam serioussaa eduthukittu velayadraan. He is a very good fielder too.

Originally Posted by
Plum
It was poor batting. Period. Warnerlaam century adikkaRAn - what happened to the senior batsmen? NZ - no need to say, never been quality batsmen. And their best batsman(Dan the man) was not there, too. Australia - Sad to see Ricky reduced to this: hope Umesh, Ishant, Vinay and co. can make him look better in the upcoming series but what will he do against Jimmy, Stuey, Timmy, Chrissy and Stevie in the next Ashes? Even Ten, Lax and Rahul might ne exposed in the upcoming series going by their capitulation in better conditions(Ten and Lax) and exhaustion of good form(Rah). Standards of batsmanship aren't great - therefore, these are not necessarily better matches for me. It is not as if we are watching a Wasim or Curtley masterclass bowling. We just have that bias against flat pitches in our mind. You enjoy what you can but don't bad-mouth variety in pitches. Malcolm Marshall terrorised a set of very good indian batsmen on their own pitches. Dale Steyn held his own against the galacticos on these pitches - so no whining against these pitches, please. Just deal with it - and understand that variety is the spice of life.
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12th December 2011, 02:55 PM
#1853
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Sumoke varattum, fire varattum. Did the match entertain? Were the players happy? Were the winners happy? Were the losers unhappy about the pitch? Why do you presume that it was bad when nobody has complained? What is your problem with that? Sanga/Dilshan didn't complain,Clarke didn't complain, the test was well attended. Why do you go and issue a warning to the ground? Who are ypu to do that when primary stakeholders aren't complaining? Why double standards? I 'll tell you why - no grundsman should ever again think of a pitch favouring spin, that's why. When icc pursues such a naked agenda, don't expect me to appreciate their shenaingans. Repeat, if it is ok to have Hobart, Colombo was fine too. Visual effect vechu comedy pannitta basic fact maaridaadhu
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12th December 2011, 03:00 PM
#1854
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Af, no problem with Warner. What I am saying is that even a batsman more suitable for T20 scored a century - so the reason for the low scores is poor batsmanship rather than great bowling. Hence, the quality of the test match is suspect - Mumbai 2004 on the oter hand tested the best batsman and only Sachin/Lax came out with credit - now that's a bowler's pitch I'd like to see and a test match of high quality. Bangalore 1987 will be banned in today's Cricket but it was the best match ever I have seen - and Sunny's 96 was among the best innings ever (on that pitch!). Adhellaam ungalukku poor pitch, poor test matchnz solvinga innikku nadandhaa
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12th December 2011, 03:15 PM
#1855
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Plum it was Galle not Colombo. Anyway prachanai ellAm oNNu dhaan.
Nothing like a warning against any spin-friendly pitches ever. It was deteriorating on Day One.
The stakeholders aren't the two parties who play the game. I am not saying the ICC is the guardian of the greatest interest of the game. Merely challenging that the teams aren't the only stakeholders.
I know a lot of people feel the way you do. Why should a greentop be considered sporting but a first-day square turner be looked down upon. adhaan first post-layE pOttEnE, enakku andha aLavu pakkuvam paththalai-nu.
Fundamentally it boils down to my utter distaste for a pitch like that. But I am okay with a pitch where even on day 5 a spinner gets little assistance. Pacers attack, batsmen survive, spinner trap - mindgame, concentration test, partnership pacing - ippadiyE paarthu pazhagiyAchu. idhai maatha solli 5 spinners a side, all-turn-nu sonnA rigest paNNa kashtamA irukku.
If you say resultless dabbA pitches should also be warned. I agree.
But greentops
No I say, they are fun.
Actually Galle turned out to be good. But first day did look very odd.
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12th December 2011, 03:26 PM
#1856
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P_R remember the greentop wickets dished out by kiwis before the 2003 worldcup? did ICC issue some sort of warning?
playing on dustbowl is an art and it is fast becoming alien to even our young Indian bats//
Gaana Kalaadhara Gandharva Gaana Lola Kaliyuga Gaana Thilaga
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12th December 2011, 03:37 PM
#1857
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Originally Posted by
wizzy
P_R remember the greentop wickets dished out by kiwis before the 2003 worldcup?
did ICC issue some sort of warning?

Oh yeah. I liked that tore (I am hopeless, no?
)
I have never liked Srinath more. No, not vs. South Africa in Ahmedabath or anything. He swung both ways, cut sharply and was such a joy. Zaheerbhai was also great. On several occasions he swung just enough to knock the stumps, it was exhult worthy. Batsmen bombed, adhukku enna seyya mudiyin.
That tour proved crucial to the development to our pace attack in WC - the only time ever I recall India winning matches due to fast bowlers!!

Originally Posted by
wizzy
playing on dustbowl is an art and it is fast becoming alien to even our young Indian bats//
adhellAm sari. But Day 4-5 detioration, makes decision at toss, innings-pacing, declaration all important and all I like very much.
Square turner on day one dhaan mugam suLichify.
Flau 80s-ku ellAm pOraar. Gabil summA anju over pOttuttu Maneendran kitta poruppai oppadaicha match ellAm invoke paNraar. appo dhaan naan cricket paarthadhE illaiyE.
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12th December 2011, 04:07 PM
#1858
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Originally Posted by
P_R
Oh yeah. I liked that tore (I am hopeless, no?

)
I have never liked Srinath more. No, not vs. South Africa in Ahmedabath or anything. He swung both ways, cut sharply and was such a joy. Zaheerbhai was also great. On several occasions he swung just enough to knock the stumps, it was exhult worthy. Batsmen bombed, adhukku enna seyya mudiyin.
That tour proved crucial to the development to our pace attack in WC - the only time ever I recall India winning matches due to fast bowlers!!
adhellAm sari. But Day 4-5 detioration, makes decision at toss, innings-pacing, declaration all important and all I like very much.
Square turner on day one dhaan mugam suLichify.
Flau 80s-ku ellAm pOraar. Gabil summA anju over pOttuttu Maneendran kitta poruppai oppadaicha match ellAm invoke paNraar. appo dhaan naan cricket paarthadhE illaiyE.
so you are ok with a test match lasting 2 1/2 days on a green top but not on a dustbowl
bowling on the dustbowl/greentop isn't a major skill..I loathe patta wickets and whenever state association prepared a greentop to settle their personal scores with BCCI..the teams batting first always got the stick and the pitch eases out helping the teams batting second. I would rather have a dustbowl in India than a greentop where the result is greatly influenced by the toss.
Gaana Kalaadhara Gandharva Gaana Lola Kaliyuga Gaana Thilaga
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12th December 2011, 04:07 PM
#1859
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That's the point - you want a different type of pitch warned just because your whim is against it. In the case of ICC, it is vested interest in addition. This is not acceptable in a democracy(yeah I know a BCCI democracy but what the heck, they get ridicuoed enough right? You guys aren't even ridiculed for your self-serving stand on pitches).
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12th December 2011, 04:49 PM
#1860
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Oru standard-ai whim-ngreer.
mudhal naaLE udhirum pitchil adhuvum oru thiRamai dhaanE 'ngreer. idhukku enna badhil solradhu?!
nallA irunga, avvaLo dhaan.
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