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4th January 2012, 10:40 PM
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Theivame! Ovvoru THamizhanum paarkka vendiya, paarthu purinthukoLLa vendiya video ithu!
Plaum gaaru, ennamo sonneengaLe, intha "avar vaazhum kaalathula naangaLum" ellaam romba normalaana dialaak,nnu, ippo avar unmaiyil enna sollirukkaar paarugna! summaavaa sonnaagna ulaga naayagan, kalai gnaani nnu
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4th January 2012 10:40 PM
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4th January 2012, 10:45 PM
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Last edited by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar; 4th January 2012 at 11:50 PM.
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5th January 2012, 12:53 AM
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Illayaraaja –‘M’usician or ‘M’athematician?
.by Prashan Jayatheepam on Friday, November 25, 2011 at 2:18pm.by prashan jayatheepam
There is a lot of ‘M’athematics in ‘M’usic!...In the Genius’ Music…
…there is Melody, there is Mathematics;
…there is Expression, there is a Feeling!
…there is Symmetry , there is Beauty;
Before we go deep in to exploring the ‘M’ factor…it would be best if this Raaja masterpiece could be heard a few times…
The Song is a Kannada Song called 'Nanna Neenu Gellalare’ from the Kannada Film ‘Nee Nanna Gellalare’.
This is a song where the Hero and the Heroine challenge each other and that is the reason for the usage of ‘Symmetry’ in the Song!
The quality of the YouTube video for this song is really bad…hence I have uploaded the mp3 for this song here http://www.sendspace.com/file/ng72ag - (and click on 'Click here to start download from sendspace')
…please download and listen a few times before reading further!
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The 2 Raagas to consider are both audava-audava Raagas (Pentatonic Raagas with 5 notes)
…If taken in ‘C’…
Hindolam – C Eb F Ab Bb
Sudha Dhanyasi – C Eb F G Bb (same as G Bb C Eb F with ‘G’ as the base)
If you see clearly the only difference between these Raagas is that the ‘Ab’ in Hindolam has decreased by a semi tone to ‘G’ in Sudhha Dhanyasi!
The song starts with Janaki humming the Raaga Sudha Dhanyasi and Dr. Rajkumar’s humming follows it but in Raaga Hindolam.
So where is Raaja’s Magic? some kind of Magic should follow…?
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And it happens in the second Interlude. Janaki & Dr.Rajkumar exchange the Raagas…and Janaki starts singing the Swaras of Hindolam while Dr. Rajkumar sings Swaras of Sudha Dhanyasi – Genius!
Listen carefully to the 2nd Interlude…where both singers match each other in note structure, rhythm structure and timing…it’s a Symmetry!
…in-fact they are pitching the exact same notes…however not singing the same note.
The Note distances on the left (Hindolam) are equal to the Note distances on the Right (Sudha Dhanyasi)
C-Eb = G-Bb
Eb-F = Bb-C
F-Ab = C-Eb
Ab-Bb = Eb-F
Even though two different Raagas are used…we don’t notice this…we don’t even notice the Symmetry…Reason…?
…the Genius has cheekily disguised the Symmetry inside a beautiful 2nd Interlude Melody…hence making you to enjoy the melody and forget the Symmetry…
Magic Over? Not yet…he’s a Genius!…more to follow…
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Towards the end of the 2nd Interlude Dr. Rajkumar sings 5 Arohana Audava (Ascending Pentatonic) Scales…
…Now someone would hope the 5 Arohana Scales would be in either Hindolam or Sudhha Dhanyasi? Which would make sense…
Nope…but Raaja thinks otherwise…!
The 5 Arohana’s are…in Order…
C D E G A – Mohanam
C D F G Bb - Madhyamavati
C Eb F G Bb - Sudhha Dhanyasi
C D F G A - Suddha Saveri
C Eb F G Bb - Sudhha Dhanyasi
Now would someone notice all these 5 Arohana’s happening in 9 seconds?
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So how come the Genius derived 4 new Raagas out of no-where?
‘Suddha Saveri’ was derived – when ‘Graha Bedham’ was applied to Raaga Hindolam and the base was changed from ‘C’ to ‘Eb’
‘Sudhha Dhanyasi’ was derived - when ‘Graha Bedham’ was applied to Raaga Hindolam and the base was changed from ‘C’ to ‘F’
‘Mohanam’ was derived - when ‘Graha Bedham’ was applied to Raaga Hindolam and the base was changed from ‘C’ to ‘Ab’
‘Madhyamavati’ was derived - when ‘Graha Bedham’ was applied to Raaga Hindolam and the base was changed from ‘C’ to ‘Bb’
Only if you jump in and go deep in to the song that we will find these precious priceless Gems!!!
Experimentation & Symmetry at its Best!
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5th January 2012, 12:55 AM
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http://www.facebook.com/note.php?not...53169574741890
Prashan is a musican. I think somebody posted here about his meeting with Maestro while doing RR for a mallu film (Snehaveedu), saying he wrote some 20+ pages score at one go.
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5th January 2012, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by
kameshratnam
IT IS FROM SRI KAMALHASSANs OFFICIAL PRO. Kamal talks about Raaja sir...a part of it came in the LATEST Concert held in dec 2011
is the video been removed from youtube?
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5th January 2012, 07:23 PM
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5th January 2012, 07:44 PM
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That is a very nice find, SKV!
Is it AV?
I definitely remember reading it when it originally appeared (though we never had the habit of saving old issues...mom's friends used to take them and typically never return, some used them for "binding thodar kadhais")
This part is really funny :
Originally Posted by
Young Raja
இளையராஜா : நான் அறிமுகப்படுத்திய குரல்களிலேயே மிக மட்டமான குரல்.
'16 வயதினிலே' ரீ ரிக்கார்டிங்கின் போது "ஒரு காட்டான் குரல் வேண்டும்" என்றார் பாரதி ராஜா.அதில் 'சோளம் விதைக்கையிலே' பாட்டைப்பாடியவர் தான் இந்த இளையராஜா. இந்தக்குரல் கொஞ்சம்
பாப்புலர் ஆயிட்டுது. ஆகையாலே அவாய்ட் பண்ண முடியலை. இந்த ஆளை 'ஓரம் போ...ஓரம் போ'ன்னு சொன்னாலும் கேட்க மாட்டேங்கறாரு. இந்த ஆள் சங்கீத ஞானம் தெரிந்து வந்து பாடினால் நன்றாக இருக்கும். என்ன பண்றது? இந்த ஆள் வேண்டான்னாலும், சில தயாரிப்பாளர்கள் பிடிவாதம் பிடிக்கிறாங்களே! ஆனால், இந்த ஆள் நிறைய சங்கீதம் கத்துக்கணும்.
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5th January 2012, 07:46 PM
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http://jattsingh.com/2011/12/29/folk...music-artists/ Looks like good number of people lookup our man in google, even other than hubbers..
Last edited by layman10; 5th January 2012 at 07:49 PM.
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5th January 2012, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by
app_engine
That is a very nice find, SKV!
Is it AV?
I definitely remember reading it when it originally appeared
Do you remember a Serial (a silly fairy tale kind) he started writing for Kumudam, that he stopped the second week. (someone tell me it is not my imagination or some corrpt memory). Cant imagine what he was thinking then..
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5th January 2012, 08:10 PM
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crvenky,
Prashan's 'graha bedam' finding is a good one. Is it a 'thanga magan' remake? I wish IR did it in the tamil version. Anyway tks for posting.
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