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					26th April 2012, 03:17 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Plum  
 innikku varaikkin BCCI aLAvukku ECB-ai thitti irukkIngaLA? 
 
 
 BCCI-ai evvaLavu thitti irukkEn?
 IPL-kaaga thitti iruppEn, because you know I hate the damn thing. idhukkum neenga political saayam poosalaam, oNNum solradhukku illai.
 And the way it has gotten all boards to accommodate this window - yes adhai thitti iruppEn.
 Would have criticized their schedule-packing, venues - idhellAm sagajam dhaanE.
 
 Chester-le-Street-la match vaikkalainnu ECB mEla ellAm enakku kOvam varaadhu. adhu vEra relationship/expectation saar.
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Plum  
 ECB who are preventing Ireland from playing test cricket? 
 
 
 appadinnu neenga thiruppi thiruppi solreenga. yEdhAvadhu imbramEsanOda ezhudhinA padikkavAchchum seyyalaam.
 I made some points about why I find it bizzare that you expect Ireland to be considered for tests now. You can consider responding to them.
 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  Plum  
 modhalla "England are evil; it is just that I find it natural"-nu imposition ezhudhunga, appuRamA pEsalAm. 
 
 
 oh adhukku appuRam dhaan pEchchu vArthaiyE nadaththa mudiyumA? appo kashtam dhaan.
 
 I've told you a zillion times that, after discussions here I am more aware of Eng-Aus players getting away lightly from match referees for offences that Asians are docked more heavily for.
 If I find something convincing and persuasive I do agree. If you can't even acknowledge that and perpetually start from zero when discussing this with me.
 That apart I don't buy most of your conspiracy theories. 'Since, apart from KP others can play switch hit, now evil ECB has twisted ICC to scrap it' type reasoning is what I see in them.
 
 
 
 
				
				
				
					 
				
				
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					26th April 2012, 03:27 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  wizzy  
 good..appo naanga eppadi naturalize avrathu? White koodathu/Black'um serthuka koodathuna eppadi    so only option is for BCCI to conduct a Pravasi Bharatiya Divas and call all the peeps of Indian orgin from Guyana/Trinidad/Pak    
 
 
 adhuvum koodaadhu 
 
 As I said, IndhiyA vallarasu aanappuRam niRaiya pEr naturalA inga vandhu vElai pArppAnga. Korea-lErndhu koththanAr, Senegal-lErndhu siththaaLu, moldova-lErndhu mEsthri-nu. appadi irukkumbOdhu oru mixed team eduththA enakku 'unnatural-A irukkAdhu.
 
 I am totally aware that I am sounding facetious. But I think it is a fairly simple point I am making.
 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  Plum
 Saying that white people playing for black countries is unnatural and vice versa is natural is also racist. 
 
 
 Oh ippadiyAppatta vishayangaLai dhaan ivvaLavu naaL racisaumnu sollikittu irundheenga. konjam pugai moottam vilagina maadhiri irukku.
 
 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  Plum
 if you are basing it on economoc criteria instead, then as i pointed out, India HAS the money in Cricket so per your own logic, it is natural for us to attract the anglo saxons here and get them to play for us. 
 
 
 Yes I mean economic criteria. But not just exclusively in cricket.
 
 See if Indian population was itself racially diverse and international, it would not be odd to have Indian cricket team to be like that.
 But to have the Indian team be more international before such a thing is the case in India, atleast urban India, it would seem odd to me.
 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  Plum
 But one thing - if one or two such cases happen, ECB will get the rule changed in ICC - adhu dhaan their naadhari thanam, 
 
 
 I am not sure if that will happen. But if it does, you can count on my applause, first as an Indian cricket fan.
 
 
 
 
				
				
				
				
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					26th April 2012, 03:30 PM
				
			
			
				
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							You are avoiding key questions. How can one have a reasonable discussion with you? Raise pandra pointai ellam "adhu dhaane natural order"-nu mazhuppa vENdiyadhu  appuRam epdi nAnga solRadhu ungaLukku puriyum? Your defence mecahnism is preventing you from seeing anything that ECB does as wrong - ipdillAm racist argument vechu justify paNNa vENdi irundhAlum paNDringa appuRam unga kitta ennathtah discussion? NeengallAM Englandla irukka vENdiyavanga.. appuRam epdi nAnga solRadhu ungaLukku puriyum? Your defence mecahnism is preventing you from seeing anything that ECB does as wrong - ipdillAm racist argument vechu justify paNNa vENdi irundhAlum paNDringa appuRam unga kitta ennathtah discussion? NeengallAM Englandla irukka vENdiyavanga..
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					26th April 2012, 03:34 PM
				
			
			
				
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							P_r unmaya sollu(nga). Ivanuga evvalavu adichaalum thaanguvanuga-ngra dhairyathula thaane ippdi pesaringa. Vera forum aa irundha inneram ummai Boli potirupaanga.   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					26th April 2012, 03:35 PM
				
			
			
				
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							Again and again, you are being dishonest and tryng to discredit my views with some clever verbal gymnastics. Sorry you are failing miserably. Cricketla ingE money irukku varrAn. maththa ellathulaiyum ingE money irundhu vandhA dhAn adhu naturalAmAm. epdiyellAm you are strething the definition of "natural"? Cant you see that these are all defence mechanism from your mind?
 
 Where there are opportunities and money, humans seek that path. If that path leads an Englishman to India, and become an Indian test cricketer, it is as natural for a human being as natural can be. By pre-emptively calling it unnatural, you are creating a defence for your position, nothing more, nothing less. This is clearly a product of an anglophile mind designed to see nothing wrong with his "English masters".  You have to seriously examine your mind for colonial prejudice.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					26th April 2012, 03:35 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Plum  
 Can we recruit Zadran Kapoor(or some name like that) from Afghanistan? adhu naturalA irukkumO ungaLukku? Arent you ashamed of your race-based view of this? 
 
 
 Ashamed-A?
 
 You are refusing to get a simple point I am making.
 Forget cricket for a moment. It is quite natural to expect many SAfricans to work in England. Certainly more natural than expecting a Afghani to work in India, right?
 All I am asking is for that sense of proportion and talk about this debate.
 
 Now you can fairly say, SAfricans are overrepresented in the Eng team. I am not getting mathematical here. That way a single NewZelander working in India could 'justify' picking a Kiwi in the Indian team. But overrepresentation is their uLnAttu vivagaaram. It is for the Sussexians and Essexians to say, 'hey how come you don't pick our lads and instead pick these Saffers?'. I don't have much of a debate about that.
 
 Now if the said Afghan plays for Pakistan it wouldn't seem odd.
 Similarly if a Bangladeshi plays for India, it would be perfectly natural.
 
 idhula enga superiority-inferiority. A mere observation of the composition of the population - avvaLo dhaanE.
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					26th April 2012, 03:39 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  ajithfederer  
 P_r unmaya sollu(nga). Ivanuga evvalavu adichaalum thaanguvanuga-ngra dhairyathula thaane ippdi pesaringa. Vera forum aa irundha inneram ummai Boli potirupaanga.   
 
 
 I really don't understand man.
 England has ALWAYS had players from everywhere. It's not something that happened yesterday. Why are they suddenly wrong in doing so?
 It seems completely bizzare that you are refusing to acknowledge this is a process that's been always going on (forger cricket, I mean as a society). That is not at all a case in India.
 
 It is a fairly innocuous point I am making.
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					26th April 2012, 03:42 PM
				
			
			
				
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							@P_R playing peeps of Indian origin'um koodatha  confuse pannreenga my lord...to reiterate I have no issues with Ravi Bopara/Monty playing for Eng confuse pannreenga my lord...to reiterate I have no issues with Ravi Bopara/Monty playing for Eng What yam against is the likes of Trott/KP who have nothing in common with Eng culture and they even speak with Africans accent What yam against is the likes of Trott/KP who have nothing in common with Eng culture and they even speak with Africans accent ended up represented Eng by taking advantage of visa rules..ethula enga naturalize/first world/multiculturalism logic eruku? ended up represented Eng by taking advantage of visa rules..ethula enga naturalize/first world/multiculturalism logic eruku?
 
 
 
 
				
				
				
				
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					26th April 2012, 03:43 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Plum  
 Again and again, you are being dishonest and tryng to discredit my views with some clever verbal gymnastics. Sorry you are failing miserably. Cricketla ingE money irukku varrAn. maththa ellathulaiyum ingE money irundhu vandhA dhAn adhu naturalAmAm. epdiyellAm you are strething the definition of "natural"? Cant you see that these are all defence mechanism from your mind? 
 
 
 England team England society maadhiri irukkaNum. Or atleast a variation of it, which isn't too skewed.
 Same for India.
 That's all my Lord.
 
 Natural-ngra oru vaarththaiyai eduththukittu neenga remba overcomplicate paNreenga.
 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  Plum  
  This is clearly a product of an anglophile mind designed to see nothing wrong with his "English masters".  You have to seriously examine your mind for colonial prejudice. 
 
 
 Lobotomy varaikkin pOyAchchA.
 btw Ireland eppadi test status-ku thagudhiyAna team, adhai eppadi Britis iLavarasar Charles sadhi paNNi thadukkuRaar 'ngra tea innum varalai.
 
 
 
 
				
				
				
				
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 Intha pAzha pOna Cricket ah vititu Pootbaal thread pakkam vanga! Flau Come support the Nazis over the victorians in th Euro Championship!
 
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