World Cricket II

[raghavendran]

Chanderpaul ...it takes some getting when u r in a losing team for 18 yrs...very happy for a champion batsman

[P_R]

Simple q

naan kEtta kELvi enna aachchu? Ireland innaikku test match viLayAda thayaarA?

- why are you pre-emptively defending when I say that England will change rules if the boot is on the other foot?

I said they will be most justified if they change the rule.
neenga pre-emptivA, highly presumptive-A accuse paNNumbOdhu, en karuththai sonnEn. No cerificate was issued to England either now or ever that what they do is for the good of the game.

All this has come from your mind.

I deal case by case. Where I believe something could have happened for cricketing reasons I state so. This runs counter to you, who certain absolutely nothing happens for cricketing reasons. Everything is a conspiracy. Brett Lee schemingly stopped in his tracks, KP is not allowed to play switch hit because he is no longer the only who plays it etc.

So anyone who disagrees is someone who thinks England is a noble defender of the interests of the game.
Bleddy fellows avainga dhaan T20-ngra karumaththai kaNdupudichchadhu.

1) you seem to be hasty in issuing a certificate now itself that "England cricket nalaththukkAga india foreignersai recruit paNdradhai rule pOttu thaduppAnga".

Underlined words are yours.

Why can't you accept that if tomorrow wehn roles are reversed, England will change the rules just for their convenience as opposed to love for Cricket?

Accept- what a word?
What an clever choice of expression/sentence

a) First of all assumes as a fact that the rules will be changed
b) Secondly, says 'England' will change the rules - thereby equating ICC and England - second thing to be 'accepted' as a fact

And anyone who says 'hmm...you think so, there doesn't seem to be enough basis for that to be such a foregone conclusion' is someone who think Eng. defends the interests of the game

And pray elaborate the situations where Eng has changed so-nu kEttEn. adhukku badhilai kaaNOm.
To set the ball rolling, I even gave the example of one-side fielding ban rule invoked arbitrarily against India. andha maadhiri yEdhAvadhu sollunga-nu kEttEn.
Without an answer I will have to assume the examples you can come up with will be things like Murali, aluminium bat, switch-hit prevention and such things.


England having foreign players long tradition. India having foreign player no tradition.
If India try to artificially create this then and if ICC creates rules to disallow it is something I can see myself supporting.
I don't think it is that difficult to understand what I am saying.

Why give pre-emptive certificates?

None issued. Refusing to join you in pre-emptive and highly presumptive condemnation does not tantamount to issuing conduct certificates. And you are the one to talk about verbal gymnastics, is it?

2) suppose we start recruiting Zadran kapoor or someone from Afghanistan, iand England's foreign supply dries out, appavum ECB will get the rules changedngaren.
Adhukkum as a passionate Cricket fan, you'Ll be happy?

Unwilling to speculate, because I don't see any consistent bias in policy favouring England or England clout in ICC.

Adhukku enna "England are innocent guardians of cricket" reason vechurukkeenga?

apadi ellAm naan sonnadhA neengaLE ninaichchukkureenga. I am able to cricketing reasons for most of the evil scheming accusations you have. Brett Lee vENumnE dhaan beamer pOduraan-nu sonneengaLE.

Aussie commentators style-la sollaNumnA: that's a bit unnecessary

KEttA apdi nadakkAdhunu maindain paNNa vENdiyadhu.

vandhA pAththukkalAm. You don't seem to believe that when something blatantly biased happens I will be critical of it.

indha condemnation futures market speculationE vachchukkuradhu illai

veto vechukittu thangalukku saadhagamaa rule paNNina naadharis mEla avLO nambikkai?

idhai paththi konjam sollungaLEn. Oru history aarvalanE kEkkuREn.

Your refusal to criticise England and ECB for anything is a real real indicator.

For what? Name five-nu sonnEn.

[wizzy]

P_R I say playing in subcontinental conditions w.r.t (heat+humidity+pitches) have been Proteas forte (don't bring in Culligan yam talking about quality bats) so whatever little success Eng have enjoyed here they owe it to these guys..Eng always lacked Khadoos/pedigreed bats who have had the skills/temperament to bat time/force a result by bullying the opposition so KP/Trott have filled up that void. They might as well end up in top 3 highest run getters for Eng with Cook being the other which should tell you about the efficacy of English bats over the years..If SA never existed as a test nation then the argument that KP/Trott playing for Eng would have been case of 'sign up' akin to Kepller playing for OZ but clearly this is case of 'stealing' prospective ATG bats from South Africa.

imo BCCI should take cue from ECB w.r.t county cricket use IPL as a Madrassa to condition/recruit prospective ATG phast bowlers to play for them

If you going to map each and every technically accomplished bats to being 'English' appram naan enatha solla

[P_R]

Eng always lacked Khadoos

kulaththozhilE adhu dhaanungaLE. ellArum kattaiyai pOttu dhaan veLAduvAinga. Botham, Lamb, Flintoff dhaan rarities.

I guess if some England player plays for SA or Aus or NZ, it wouldn't seem odd.
India - definitely odd.

[ajithfederer]

Collingwood eellam exceptional cases-nga. Talk about the rule(normal scenario) here. India-la kooda than Raina, Kohli etc are good fielders. Adhukaaga all Indians are good fielders eh??

Saami idhu ulaga nadippu. Whole world knows an Indigenous England side is a good for nothing side. Ninga atom-bomb ai sothula maraikka paakuringa. Talent pool my ass, Ulloorla irukaradhu peru than talent pool. Velinaatula irukaradhu talent pool Allaa.

Please read in sequence


Feddy mentioned fielding as an 'advantage' Saffers brought in. I am not too sure. Collingwood ellAm nallaavE pudippAnE.


What I was denying is the claim that England was lacking in skills x.y.z that they now have because they have exclusive access to foreign talent and have thus become world beaters.

England is all out focused on recruiting, talent-spotting. Even that I would say is taking advantage of a talent pool they've always had people come from. I don't find it odd.

[ajithfederer]

Kustodians of the game.
40 varushama ODI Cricket
100+ years aa Test cricket.

Ippo than orae oru Weld cup (adhuvum tonty 20).
Beaten thrice in ODI WC Finals
Became No 1 only to lose 4 cons matches in Aasiya.

Ivanga ve ve ve vay ve va va va aama !!!!

[ajithfederer]

Saireeng / United Nations/ Britees empire team. Should choose either one of these or should find some new names.

[ajithfederer]

Wisdom from GF . What a great film again.

"You know, you gotta stop them at the beginning, Like they should have stopped Hitler in Munich. they should never let him get away with that, they was just asking for trouble".

I am saying this now All the other national teams are in for big trouble in the future if this practice continues. Indha dawgs will soon completely take over the sport do all mollamaarithanams and their fans will justify every thing their sports body does.

[ajithfederer]

It will look odd.

It is not like the old times(0f 80's and 90's). Every thing is being scrutinized and talked about.

I guess if some England player plays for SA or Aus or NZ, it wouldn't seem odd.

[wizzy]

P_R Khadoos-ness isn't limited to mattai/kattai podrathu it extends to being a clutch player/scoring daddy 100s/to be a batsman for all seasons..not to be perturbed by kin/kith vallakappu/kadhu kutthu/depression et all..basically to be the best bat they could ever be..surukumma sollanumna oru Stephen Waugh ella Wall of 00s mathiri...scoring runs with robot like precision..for all their doggedness Nass/Thorpe couldn't convert those into numbers and Trott/KP have succeeded in this regard which is very un-English is my opinion.