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**Sureshs65** · 3rd June 2012, 10:32 PM

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Now that we are guessing, why don't we guess this way: Seeing the massive support received from Yuvan fans for this song, Gautham is trying to take credit

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**Sureshs65** · 3rd June 2012, 10:34 PM

Prasad,

I love the song and Yuvan's singing. So i can't make out what you guys are pissed about

**senthilv.com** · 3rd June 2012, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by kiru

I am with senthilv.com on this. No need to be harsh on the genius..He is just referring to appalam, oorukkai for film music as it is not possible to do much serious work there. He has mentioned this privately to many in friendly situations .. he has to maintain a rhythm.. some familiar structure etc.
This song seems to be a fusion of jazz and rock elements. He has been learning Jazz from his Hungarian friends and he is debuting his works in this film.. that is why he refers to this movie to be somewhat in that line. Please note, he says it with a laugh. It is quite possible for what he has accomplished in this film he is really being humble.
He is not like other MDs just for the sake of doing a Jazz song, to take some Jazz standards and improvise on it. He will do original work and this song is likely to be very original. I think we probably need to get initiated into this genre (Jazz). We need some critiquing from some Jazz listeners.
(BTW, the recording quality is awesome.)

Kiru, I agree he has been itching to do something in jazz for a while. These teasers does sound different and sound engineering seems top notch.

Very interesting thing or paradoxical thing about Raja is... he will not try musical ideas or do anything extravagant which doesn't fit the film situation. He believes the characters/situation should speak through him or it should make him speak.

I read GVM's radio interview and his instruction to Raja 'Male voice...Silence... then guitar piece" IMHO, Raja hates this kind of approach. His music arrangements are not driven by methods. For him, the situation dictates musical arrangements. Lay out the situation fully, he will produce something great that perfectly fits the situation. Raja is probably overlooking these aspects because of GVM's reputation and his eagerness plus sincerity in getting good music. If it was an emerging director he probably would have said "Nee situation mattum solluppa, paattu thaana varum"

Making Yuvan sing is hedging bets in the commercial market. As much as Raja has a soft corner for his family troupe, i doubt he would have picked Yuvan for this song independently. Now that's film industry for you. You may be genius but you still have to work within the set-up.

Senthil

**San_K** · 3rd June 2012, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by baroque

who cares whether Gowtham is generous to save IR or it's a fact, his request..

Ilayaraja is the music composer, he is responsible at the end!

Bad first impression for the album from IR-GVM!

ungalukku pudikkalainna vidungalen. summa ethana thadavathaan solluveenga

All I can say, "pls wait for full album"

**Sureshs65** · 3rd June 2012, 10:57 PM

Senthilv,

What I can see is that Raja has understood the current commerce of music and is OK to meet folks half way. See what happened for 'SreeRamaRajyam'. Bapu had _already_ asked the poet to compose all 15 songs!!! Then he requested Raja to tune for those lyrics!!! As you said, in earlier days, Raja may not have been very happy. But he did tune for 'SreeRamaRajyam' in great style and also participated in all its promotion activity!!! So I am surprised at his listening out to Gautham to get a feel of what Gautham is expecting for his movie.

**Plum** · 3rd June 2012, 11:01 PM

One thing for puththira paasam allegers - from what I hear - and I will not divulge more - it does seem like he treats the family in the same way we are accustomeed to in his public persona. Except Karthikeyan - and I'll claim this shows IR knows his Gold from Bronze and Silver and Iron - nobody else gets any much respect from him even at home. avar ishtam dhAn. Including the late soul that departed last year.
idhukku mEla nAn solla mAttEn. So much for puthira paasam and nepotism. idhai en kitta sonnavar idhai oru character flawvA solli varuththa pattAr.

**MumbaiRamki** · 3rd June 2012, 11:21 PM

Plum ,

Dont know how much true . One of my team member is a relative of IR family and knows Yuvan, Bhava very well . Dont think what you said is true . IR will not change is mind in music and rest all he is flexible

**senthilv.com** · 4th June 2012, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by Sureshs65

Senthilv,

What I can see is that Raja has understood the current commerce of music and is OK to meet folks half way. See what happened for 'SreeRamaRajyam'. Bapu had _already_ asked the poet to compose all 15 songs!!! Then he requested Raja to tune for those lyrics!!! As you said, in earlier days, Raja may not have been very happy. But he did tune for 'SreeRamaRajyam' in great style and also participated in all its promotion activity!!! So I am surprised at his listening out to Gautham to get a feel of what Gautham is expecting for his movie.

Agree Suresh. He is willing to be more flexible nowadays. Having said that, I think he always understood the commerce of music and cinema. He worked to give what directors wanted. What he resented was irreverence to the craft of music and storytelling by producers, and meddling with his system of working without an iota of understanding.

He would probably allow you to say all you wanted before he composes or you can even ask for another tune but he probably would never accept to change notes in the tune he created, change the tempo, change instruments or arrangements.

Also, I don't think he is against composing music for lyrics. His complaint is, some poets don't understand writing lyrics for a given situation/character and believes that good writing doesn't always translate to good song and good music. And his other point is, poets don't understand his music and make his life harder. I actually agree with his points. Compare this with writers writing specifically for Sivaji, MGR, Kamal, Rajni to bring out their best. I don't see how this could be different for Raja. So if situation warrants, as was the case of Ramarajyam, he will compose for lyrics but you better have a damn good reason for it.

In cinema everything should serve the purpose of story, character, actors, aesthetics and artistic style. Everything else is gibberish. I think Raaja has very deep understanding of this basic aspect.

Senthil

**kiru** · 4th June 2012, 12:53 AM

@senthilv.com & suresh65 - I am quite happy with the way the conversation went with GVM. I think IR is adjusting to the generation gap between him and newcomers like GVM, Balki etc. Please note, the use of english in the conversation, this avoids/tempers the usual reactions that could have come forth a bit raw in the native tongue.
I think GVM is a very smart guy and I am inclined to believe him when he says the music will have IR's stamp and it will be different. Since it will be different/fresh we need to be a little patient and hear it with an open mind.
(re:jazz .. I meant this album is more into this genre (than previous ones)).