Khan Saheb Kamal Haasan's Jamaat/Jeba Koottam/Devasthaanam - Part 8

[equanimus]

Actually I think people miss how important any sort of engagement is. It's not just about whether one is pro as opposed to anti or vice versa. You can't be opposed to brahmin hegemony in the proper sense without engaging with a non-brahmin world. (maththappadi, sEthu-la varRA mAdhiri "nammavALukku eppavum pattA dhAnE puriyum"-nu uLLukkuLLayE reNdoru kural irukkaRadhu sAdharaNam.) Similarly, by merely critiquing Hindutva ideology, one doesn't become anti-Hindu in any sense. To even be non-Hindu (in one's films, I mean), one has to minimally traverse the ethos of other cultures/worlds.

[equanimus]

Can we start listing Hamal's hindu bashing from so far movies? Not to prove anything. Just for record. Let us see how each one of us view those dialogues. In kamal's own words "thedith theerpom vaa! "

Actually, isn't there a simpler thought experiment which would also be much more authentic? How many Muslims are out there who feel Kamal is pro-Islam?!

[irir123]

pro-islamnu yaarunga sonnom ? anti-islam aaga irukkanumnu yaarum kattaayapaduthhalaye ? anti-hindutva aaga irukka koodathunnum sollalayey ? konjam balancedaa irundhaa yenna kuraichalnu thaana kekkurom ?

[SoftSword]

adhaavadhu, neenga viruppadramaadhiri avar irukkanumnu nenakkireenga... illaya?

[irir123]

SS - makkal theerpey magesan theerpu illaiyaa ? andha makkalsla naanum oruthhan thaane ? viruppadakkoodadhaa ?

[SoftSword]

artist ilukkura iluppukku makkala konduvaranumnu dhanae podhuva solluvaanga...
makkal kaekkuradha kudukkuradhula enna creative freedom irukku?..

[equanimus]

pro-islamnu yaarunga sonnom ? anti-islam aaga irukkanumnu yaarum kattaayapaduthhalaye ? anti-hindutva aaga irukka koodathunnum sollalayey ? konjam balancedaa irundhaa yenna kuraichalnu thaana kekkurom ?

I put it that way because you earlier said "pro-islamic rhetoric," but anyway, I'd extend the same logic to the anti-Hindu label too. The way I see it, Kamal's films are too seeped in Hindu identity/culture to be anti-Hindu. At a minimum, one should qualify his films as Hindu in some ways. That's my basic point here.

[P_R]

if one strips away the communist BS, the film wud be less than an hr and half long!

kizhinjudhu.
adhai stip away paNradhunnA veedhi naadagamE pOttirukka vENdAmE!

The ubersimplification of veedhinaadagam is presented as is. Milton Friedman and JK Galbraithe discuss the role of the state in the economy - ellAm padaththukkuLLa vachchA, endhirichu tea saapida pOyiruvAnga.

adhukku mEla enna perusA BS-ittAru?


vAzhkkai pudhayalappA valuththavan eduththukkappA
avanavan vayithukku dhaan vAzhvadhu thappA


vs


aduththavan vayithukkuLLa un uNavu illaiyappA
eLaichavan pasichirundhA indha maNNu thaangAdhappA

idai sonnadhukkE ennavO Mao, Stalin ellArukkum clean-chit kuduththa mAdhiri solreengaLE


idhula religion based disgruntlement vERaiyA. anbEsivam-nu title vachchA appuram 'Sat Sri Akal' nu sollittu kolai paNRa Sardarji villainA vaikka mudiyin?

Equal-A, neutralA irukkaNumnA, aduththu 'anbE yEsunAdhA'-nu oru padam edukkaNum. manu kuduppOm.

[sathya_1979]

Yaarum edhuvum kattaayappaduththalai. False self portrayal paRRidhaan pEchchu.

[P_R]

False self portrayal paRRidhaan pEchchu.

enna false self portrayal?