Film / Documentary - Recently watched & worthy of some discussion

[joe]

Iruvar seems to be a half baked approach to me.

I never thought I will agree with venkkiram one day

[paranitharan]

Mani's films have always been pretentious and lacking in depth. The other night watched thalapathy and puthupettai and found puthupettai superior.

[rsubras]

Sometimes beauty of a film is not in its depth or the amount of details revealed but in leaving some of the things to the viewer themselves and make him / her concieve the entire scene on their own........

[paranitharan]

Yes there are some films but thalabathy isn't one of them.

[mappi]

Yes there are some films but thalabathy isn't one of them.

Paranitharan, apart from story, dialogues, usual gimmicks on screen like emotion, love ... etc ... what else did you note in Thalapathy before coming to this conclusion ?

[mappi]

For me Iruvar was not badly made. It had its moments.
I can pass the dialogues : the last ones from Prakash Raj is a highlight, the crispness in emoting rivalry ... etc ...
Where the film failed : the films jumps back and forth from Biography to fiction ; sharp characters come and go in a wink of an eye ; could not maintain the tempo and finally - excuses if I offend someone with this statement - Aishwarya Rai in Dual role was a big joke. She did not have the capacity & physique to play such a powerful role that turns and spins the story as well as 1 of the main characters.

And technically he had used diffrent tint for different suituations [grey, green and blue respectively]. The sudden switch of visuals was a bit tiring to a normal viewers. And too many close ups and the heads look magnified on screen. According to me its normal, it shows gradually the growth and fall of the main characters and the close up act to capture it. But for normal viewership its bizzare.

All together, one will enjoy Iruvar if no comparison is made between reel and real. But the comparison seed is already planted, thus provoking so many differences and critisims. For me Iruvar comes under the category Good Cinema, for rest its viewers choice.

[hattori_hanzo]

It was lengthy and more than story, direction etc we should blame the editor. How can someone edit a film like this? I liked the film if you can fast fwd some redundant fight scenes, lengthy sequences in the 2nd half etc). Amazing production values, camera and CG work. Didn't find Surya's performance impressive. Was pretty much a cocktail of Vaaranam aayiram and ayan. Music and BGM sutham. I liked the concept. Director must have seen lot of steroid cow videos in youtube

Selva, I agree with most of ur points. I found the entire Ukvania(?) portions unnecessary. How many scenes can an editor remove? In this 2.45 hrs movie, once u have seen the first hour, you get to know who the villain is and what his motif is. After that, nothing holds the interest of the viewer. The story writer should have revealed the suspense much later and made it short. Suriya travels to USSR only to find why the food inspectors did not find anything wrong with Energion. It would have been interesting if that trip lead him to something else, say a bigger villain or a more intriguing conspiracy - not back to his dad. KV Anand has tried to fit in too much funda into one movie which did not work - genetic research, athletes getting drugged, mass food poisoning, corporate wars, import-export policies. As if he suddenly realised that the story is going somewhere, he brings the protagonist back to India & the last 10 mins looks like a fast-forwarded version. Gujarat scenes, Surendra Lodi, climax dialogue were all unintentional ROFL scenes.

I liked the concept too and Im sure a good amount of research and hard work has gone into making, but the end product is bad. CG was good in some places(especially in Theeye Theeye song) but shoddy in some scenes too. We can easily make out Vimalan's extra-fitting head in several scenes.

[mappi]

We can easily make out Vimalan's extra-fitting head in several scenes.

... lol ...

[Saai]

Iruvar half-baked in what sense? Its not a political movie. The movie does not deal with Dravidian politics and its ideologies. Its about two people, their friendship, their love life and most importantly their struggle for power. All other political characters etc are just used as a milieu. If not for anything else, the movie is a must-watch for Mohan Lal and AR Rahman.

[Anban]

Iruvar is not even half baked ..