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only Azhagiya Poonkuruvi song has some Raja's signature on it, may be I am wrong but I like it. Every single Google reference of that movie says Raja is the music director. Should it be one of those small budget movies which Raja did not care much to do OR a dubbed one? vevaram therinjavanga sollungaya..Quote:
Originally Posted by Devaraagam
Sakala,
Remember, when TFM felicitated Rahman, he gave acceptance speech. Raja, BMK et all were on stage.
Avaru enaaku neraiya time kudukalaingrathai sonnar pa. IR generallave adhai vuda kammiyathaan time eduthupaar, aana ARR ku adhu normal illai. Adhanalai sonnar. Adhu verai Idhu verai. Inga IR music kettu vellai karanga azhudanga nnu solradhu vera yaravadu soona nalla irukkumnu nenaichaen.
GVM sonna avarai jalrannu thaan soluvoon. Aana thailvar mela appadi peechu varadahey. Adhudhaan.
JaiJi,
IR ku resume thevai illappa. MD(Music Director or Managing Director) ellam golf velayadhum podu pesi dhaan adutha velaikku povanga. resume vena avarakku.
Yagu CEO vishayam theriyaadho?Quote:
Originally Posted by prasad_subbu
Indha kaalathula obama kooda daily resume update panraaru theriyumaa?
Ha Ha Ha. That was real funny from Prasad. There should be some limit to saying 'you should not blow your own trumpet'.
If this proceeds along this way, one day this may happen. Raja may be in US and take a photo with say John Williams or Moricone. Once that is published, someone may say, "Why is Raja doing this? Why is he showing off? Instead of him, Karthik Raja must have taken that picture. Then it would have been nice." And most importantly, it will end with, "I didn't expect this from Raja." !!!!
கருத்து சுதந்திரத்தில் இதை எழுதி இருக்கிறேன். என் மீது கல் ஏரியாதீர்கள் ப்ளீஸ்..
ராஜா சாருக்கு பேச தெரியறது இல்லை... ஆனால் தன்னை பெரிய பேச்சாளர் என்று நினைத்து எதையோ சொல்லவந்து எதையோ சொல்லி விடுகிறார்.கமல் சுத்த தமிழில் பேச வந்து, கடைசியில் வட்டார தமிழில் பேசிவிடுவது இல்லையா? ஏறக்குறைய அதுவும் இதுவும் ஒன்று தான்.
ராஜாவுக்கு தான் ஒரு பேச்சாளர் என்று மட்டுமல்ல,வெண்பா புலவன், கவிஞர், உரைநடை ஆசிரியர், சிறந்த பக்திமான், சிந்தனை வாதி, தர்மகர்த்தா என்றெல்லாம் தன் மீது பெரிய நம்பிக்கை இருக்கிறது, அதை அவ்வப்போது காட்டியும், ஊதியும், அடித்தும் வந்திருக்கிறார்.
எனகென்ன தோன்றுகிறது என்றால், ராஜா சார் கடந்து வந்த பாதை அப்படி. ஓரளவிற்கு மேல ஏறி வந்த பின்னர், தன்னை யாரும் குறைத்து மதிப்பிட கூடாது என்று நினைக்கிறார் போல. பாரதிராஜா சொன்னது போல், ராஜா சாருக்கு இமேஜ் கான்சியச்னஸ் அதிகம். அதன் தாக்கமே இப்படி பட்ட பேச்செல்லாம்.
சகலமானவர்களுக்கும் இதனால் நான் சொல்வது என்னவென்றால், யார் நண்பன்?, யார் எதிரி? என்று தெரியாமல், பேச கூடாத விஷயத்தை,பேச கூடாத இடத்தில் பேசி விடுவதால், நாமலா தான் வலியக்க போய் மாட்டிகிறோம்.
rajaramsgi,
I was thinking I am alone in receiving the "stones" pelted at "IR bashers" in this forum :-)
I agree with you.
"உண்மை கசத்தாலும் அதை நண்பனிடம் சொல்" என்று சொல்வார்கள்.
ஆனால் ராஜா, இதை பல பேர் கூடியிருக்கும் அவையிலும் கடைப்பிடிப்பது தான் முகம் சுளிய வைக்கிறது.
ஒருவர் தனியே இருக்கும் போது என்ன பேச வேண்டும், அவையில் எல்லோரும் இருக்கும் போது என்ன பேச வேண்டும் என்ற இங்கீதம் கூட அவரிடம் பல நேரங்களில் இல்லை.
உதாரணத்திற்கு தோனி பாடல்கள் வெளியீடு விழாவில் பாலச்சந்தரை புகழ்கிற நேரத்தில் "இந்த மாதிரி பாட்டை (பாடறியேன், படிப்பறியேன் ) விஜய் படத்திற்கு போட முடியுமா சொல்லுங்கள்" என்று கேட்க்கிறார். அங்கே விஜய்யின் தந்தை அமர்ந்திருக்கிறார். அவர் முகத்தில் அந்த கணத்தில் ஒரு அதிர்ச்சி. ராஜா சொல்வது நியாயமான விஷயம் தான். அதாவது "இன்றைய படங்களில் அருமையான சிச்சுவேஷன் இல்லை..கதை ஓட்டம் இல்லை" என்பது. ஆனால் அதை அவர் சொல்லும் விதத்தை பாருங்கள்.
ஒரு நிருபர் "ராகத்திற்கும் மேட்டுக்கும் என்ன வித்தியாசம் ?" என்று கேட்டு விட்டார்.
தவறு தான். அந்த நிருபரை பக்கத்தில் வர சொல்கிறார் ராஜா. அந்த நிருபர் "எனக்கு இசை பற்றி ரொம்ப தெரியாது. அதனால் கேட்டு விட்டேன்" என்று நெளிகிறார். சரி, போனால் போகட்டும் என்று விட்டிருந்தால் பெருந்தன்மையாக இருந்திருக்கும். ஆனால் ராஜாவோ "திருவள்ளுவர் என்ன திருக்குறளை தெரிந்து வைத்துக்கொண்டா அதை எழுதினார் ? தெரிந்த குரலையா எழுதினர் ? ஐயையே " என்கிறார். நீர் பெரும் மேதையாக இருந்து விட்டு போங்கள் ராஜாவே..ஆனால் இங்கிதம் இல்லை என்றால் சங்கீதம் இருந்து என்ன பயன் ?
இப்போது லேட்டஸ்ட் லண்டனில் நடந்த விவகாரத்தை சொல்லியிருக்கிறார். சில பேர் நாள் முழுக்க பயிற்சி செய்து முடியாததை தான் ஐந்து நிமிடத்தில் simplify செய்து பாடி கொடுத்தேன் என்று..அவர்கள் யாரோ நமக்கு தெரியாது...ஆனால் இவருடைய தம்பட்டத்தில் அவர்கள் அடி பட்டு போகின்றனர். "அவர்களை அனுப்ப சொல்லிவிட்டு" என்கிறார். என்னவோ அவர்கள் இவருடைய இசையை கெடுத்தது போன்ற ஒரு அர்த்தம் தான் கேட்க்கும் நமக்கு படுகிறது.
இதை எல்லாம் சொன்னால், நாம் என்னவோ ராஜாவின் எதிரிகள் என்பது போல இங்கே பலர் நம் மீது பாய்கிறார்கள்.
இருந்தாலும் சொல்லி வைப்போம் :)
"ராகத்திற்கும் மெட்டுக்கும்" என்று படிக்கவும்
:)
I think you are right about IRs issues with how he says things on stage. In this instance though, I think the point he was trying to make was "Music is a simple matter, lets not complicate it. For instance, I was in London recently and ...." I dont think he was trying to point out how superior he is to the singers who couldnt get it right, just that he had a simple (according to him) idea in mind and the singers couldnt get it right because they were complicating things. Same as how he says that he didnt know what a c minor (or something like that) was till he was 27 and then it just turned out to be the same thing he had always known in his own terms.
இன்னொரு சம்பவம்.
"What do you feel on Rahman getting Padma Bushan..? " என்று ஒரு நிருபர் கேட்டதற்கு உடனே "Why should I feel for him ? I have to feel for myself. He should feel for himself" என்று குதிக்க வேண்டுமா ? "சந்தோஷம்" அல்லது "வாழ்த்துக்கள்" என்று ஒரு வார்த்தையில் கூட முடித்திருக்கலாமே.
"அவனவன் விதி அவனவன் கையில்" என்ற தத்துவ பொருளையா அந்த நிருபர் நாடி வந்தார் ? நீங்கள் இப்படி பேசுவீர்கள் என்று தெரிந்து தானே பலர் உங்களின் வாயை நோன்டுகிரார்கள். அதையாவது புரிந்து கொண்டு பேசலாமே.
:lol: Someone must have finally shown him the mirror!Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
Raja_Fan, You should read Biographies of other great Composers, Artists etc. Mozart use to write letters to relatives, friends which will have foul words. Thats just one thing to say. He himself had said his life is not worth to follow, and not pure like his music.
Generally, the attributes you find in Raja which are disturbing atleast for you are,
the way he does self-praise(this is actually less, and he equally talks low profile things abt him. So this is balanced, i would say)
Other 2 striking things are
he doesn't say even simply good things and basic wishing words about other MDs, mostly of his and the next gen
he kinda doesn't care at all and look about the ppl who went away to other MDs or those who at times kind of insulted him
See, these 2 are purely professional, almost everybody has this. There is nothing to worry for general public. He treats even his kind of dumbest fan, nicely, when he talks in his concerts. He doesn't Discriminate btw his intelligent and dumb fans.
Above all, there are lot of good traits he has which other MDs not at all have. Neither in 80s 90s, where he did 50+ films per year, nor now, he doesn't asks extra comfort for composing sessions. Even now, most of his Salary goes to Recording and other technicians. Just compare the recent MDs who charge in Crores and at times, if the album flops, actually there is no way how the produces makes up with that loss! Raja has not let any producer in such a situation.
Though we all know, his speed also brings down the cost very much. He don't take too many days and thus in a way reducing the composing session costs.
I quite liked his response - atleast one guy has guts not to give what media wants , but what he wants to say .Quote:
Originally Posted by raja_fan
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Originally Posted by rajaramsgi
Summed up very well. This is an impression lot of ppl have or feel about Raja but you have to understand he is an not spokesperson or diplomat, he is an artist. I love his chats/talks and his off tangent remarks. Very insightful. An explosion of experience. They express love for beauty, contempt for hypocrisy, search for truth, frustration with everything that spoils his beloved field and craft. Raja is bold not arrogant. He may seem tactless but it is an outpouring of his emotional intelligence. IMO, a wonderful artist.
Also, your strength is your weakness. If you separate an artist from his "troubles", paradoxical views and insecurities. You don't get art, you just get trouble. I will take Raja's straight forward, blunt remarks and talks anytime compared people who seem humble in front of you and talk bad behind your back.
One can always pick faults in a person. Raja stands for so many good things in life. He is sincere, focused, dedicated, passionate and has an insatiable thirst for knowledge, If I could only acquire one or two of qualities that would be great :)
SKV,
When consultants charge a bomb to give you advice. raja_fan is giving it free of cost !!! So no tension, be happy. We must acknowledge that people take time off from their busy schedule and come here to dispense with their advice. So we must all be thankful that Raja has such raja_fans!!! Instead of that why you getting tension !!!
raja_fan: You condinue maa.
pesaama, section and thread titles la 'thimiru pidichcha', 'heavy headed' ippidi ada mozhi include panneedalaama?
variable global declaration will stand good for any situation/circumstance going ahead, illa? logic redundancy korayumE.
Sure Sureshs65 !!
Your thanks encourages me to condinue to stand apart from the coterie crowd and be a fan of IR ( of his music alone ) :)
If these traits show up during NEPV composing, then that's a good sign in one way :wink: i.e. an awesome score assured!Quote:
Originally Posted by KV
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Originally Posted by MumbaiRamki
MR,
It doesn't come across as gutsy.
It showed him as an arrogant person who can't even congratulate his colleague in his best moment.
அவருக்கு இதை மாதிரி பதில் சொல்லனும்ன்னு தோணினதே ஆச்சர்யமாவும், வருத்தமாவும் இருந்து!:twisted:
Idhellam edhukku namba ninaippu vaichukkanum?
Let us remember the good ones which are HIS MUSIC!
Vinatha,
If you look at it in another way, you may find Raja was very diplomatic. We fans itself felt that the GOI did a great injustice by clubbing them together. They should have waited atleast an year before giving it to Rahman. Who can say that Raja did not feel the same. If it was so, then the answer is fairly diplomatic isnt't it? Rather than saying why they gave him now? Personally I was happy with what Raja told. I was definitely not happy that Rahman was given the title the same year Raja was and would have been disappointed had Raja said anything else. So to each their own !!!
even so, it doesn't feel right for me.
He could have told in a general manner.
'INDHA VARUSHAM AWARDS VANGINA ELLARUKKUM VAAZHTHUKKUL!'
appadinnu poyirundha nalla erundhu erukkum.
regular people like me, we don't follow every little thing,
indecent aa dhaan thonum!:(
Raja_fan,
Our thoughts are similar in what you feel about his talk. I also tried in similar lines, but could not sum it up beautifully as you did.
But at the same time, I feel he did not get due recognition he deserves in music department. People say he do not care for award and all. But I feel he will have a let down feeling that his talent was not recognised properly. I think that would be feeling of anybody who followed IR's work for long time. May be it manifests differently while he talks.
Anyways, I do not want to be Raja Bhakthar who appreciates and find substatiantion for what all he talks and do. I want to his true music fan as he has given so many songs which are close to my heart.
The very purpose of reporters asking the kostin is to get Vambu. Ithu mattum Raja_fan kku thappaa theriyaathu!
Iam Seeing this site 1st time -> http://www.ilayaraja.co.in/movies.html
It lists 821 films(guess no repeats and the last film it lists is Yeto Vellipoyindi Manasu!)
He is not a politician and he talks what he thinks (same way he does music). Need to respect him for that. Let us not try to teach him "DOs and Don'ts".
Let us bring Kamal and forget the unfortunate Q&A Ir session...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuFvZ...eature=related
KAMAL-ILAYARAJA :musicsmile:
I think IR is not arrogant, just does not know to communicate diplomatically. There are very many people who are arrogant, think too highly of themselves but because of their communication have a humble image. Even if he is arrogant, thinks he is a philosopher, writer or what not. I have zero problems. If you cannot digest it and affects your musical choices so be it. As KV (?) suggested, read the biographies of other high-achievers. He is not an "ordinary" guy with "ordinary" mind. He is in a different plane. Our standards of humility or modesty do not apply. Are we going to throw away e=mc ** 2 or Mozarts' symphonies or even throw Steve Job's products out from your pocket because of their personalities ?
I think talking about IR's personality is like talking about actors/actresses personal relationships.. No real value.
I have spoken to many people who have been close to the genius and all of them have only 1 thing to say......Listen to his music and be happy :) if we dig more into the human side then we will get more surprises and SHOCKS
thanks
Some face changing events in IR's public appearances
1. As someone quoted : Can this song be included in a vijays movie? SAC's face did change and sadly he could not react
2. HTNI live chennai : Yuvan, did u know thyagaraja swami composed many of this songs before he was 27 years old...this showed in yuvans body language when he came to sing.
How many of us had our fingers crossed when IR attended the oscar felicitation ceremony for ARR and even there he did not talk to the point
BTW, I am not surprised by some of the criticisms of IR's handling of people or communications. I am pretty sure, even my close friends or relatives would have the same reaction. I suspect it is a cultural issue. In Indian culture, we expect everybody to conform to certain stereotypes. Though I am one who is proud of this culture, I am not sure certain aspects of our culture are good. One thing, I have read and subscribe to is - our society is able to produce good talent, but unable to identify and nurture extraordinary talents. In the US, inspite of the controversary over IQ measurements, the school system even today runs some tests likes this (COGAT) and sorts/separates students for special coaching. For that matter, even within the same grade/school, some students are put in to "advanced" programs. I think our expectations of behavior/stereotypes are clouding our identification of these "high-achievers" (not just lack of testing). For eg, when in college, one of my classmates used to sit at the front benches and bombard the lecturers with lots of questions. A particular lecturer thought he was arrogant and testing her. But in actuality, he was a very good student and really interested in learning the stuff (while some of us ignored the lessons or never took notes). He is Venture Capitalist in the US now, after being at C level in 2 or 3 companies and now has a holding company just for his enormous number of patents.
IR probably would have been the humblest artiste in Hollywood if he had been born in the US :-)
Kiru,
I agree with your statement as far as boasting is concerned no body can beat Americans. But the incidences coated here was demeaning other person(In case comment about vijay's movie). That I don't hear people doing in Holywood.
We will not throw away Steve Jobs products, or einsteins mass energy relation due to their personalities. But people do write bad about Steve Jobs personalities. He is not apart from criticism as he is a genius. As long as he do not hurt others with his ego, it is fine.
By the way, even IR haters can't do away with his music. As Kamal put it rightly, "Indha aal kittendhu enga ponallum Thappika Mudiyathu. Verai composer vettileyum photola perussa Nippar".
It is all a package. Good and Not so Good together.
Kamesh, I remember our lengthy talks during our meets, and especially remember what and all you told at that meeting. I wanted to tell u some misunderstandings of yours at that time itself. But as we discussed a lot, somehow I could not. But now, after seeing ur post, i wanted to point out the blunders in ur thought about IR's character. Actually this will serve for many ppl who misunderstand IR
1. Vijay padathukku intha song poda mudiyumaa? He was trying to say these kind of situations doesn't exist in Vijay films, then he included Ajith's name too. We shud take this lightly, actually there is nothing wrong or insulting Vijay. Do vijay and Ajith are acting in Sankaraabaranam kind of movies? They are youth icons and thats what they want. At most they want movies like Gilli, Billa and great BO collections. Both their past and the upcoming movies are of this type no? Whats arrogant on IR's part and what is insult on Vijay and Ajith films? IR too has did masala films but now he is in more pristine state that even if he does, ppl won't like that act.
2. HTNI Live, Yuvan, Thiyagarajar:- Yeppaa! that was a nice kindal and nothing insulting yuvan! He was meaning that Thiyagarajar composed for youth and a youth MD like yuvan shud listen to Thiagarajar. Clearly understand IR talks about the age of audience of Thiagaraja and NOT Tiyagarajar SwamigaL's age, while he composed.
3. IR's talk at ARR Felicitation function:-
a) Thanga Greedame podalaam avLo thaguthi irukku
b) He kept ARR in same pedastal as him -> MSV is aathaara Shruti and He and ARR being Panjamam and Shadjamam respectively, see he is not including any other MDs there, and saying ALL other MDs and musicians are "Athan mel ezhuntha sapthaswarangaL". (note he is keeping likes of decent MDs like Vidyasagar along with instrument players!)
4. Asking high salary to avoid an Director:- This is nothing wrong. this is similar to some MDs staying inside Recording theatre and letting his helpers tell the visitors "Aiyaa oorla illai" and even refusing chances to them
5. Getting angry about other MDs getting chances:- Suppose if an MD gets too angry inside, but not shows that to outside world, nothing wrong. Its totally his personal thing. Kobathula enna venaa pannattum, cinema la varra maathiri instruments cassettes ellaam thookki pottu udaikkurathu, burning his score sheets, etc. Nothing wrong for outsiders man! Veetla pondaatti kovathula celphone thookki pottu udaikkurathillaiyaa?!? Appuram samaathaanam aagurathillaiyaa?
6. About both IR and ARR getting Padma Bhushan same time:- In one way the good thing in this is, the world came to know that IR doesn't do any politics and he is always kept in general quotta and even IR has influence, he don't use thakkal or VIP quota to get awards!
That apart, it is a blunder of the Indian Govt to club IR with other MDs. Any MDs be it, we know IR's calibre, thats all! He is not you and me! And he didn't even become anger. In reality he won't like this clubbing. So reporters know this and Wantedly ask "Saar ungalukkum avarukkum ore nerathula kuduthathu pathi enna nenaikkureenga?" If he said "I wish ARR the best luck" it wud be the fakeiest answer in the world. At same time he could not show the anger on Govt openly., So a true man, he said "Why shud I feel for him?" That is a good escape teknik actually :lol: Smart answer man! He clearly added" Whatever I wanted to say about ARR I already said in the felit.function" What more you expect?!?
6. MSV Felicitation Event:- I said this before itself . A function happened to felicitate both MSV and Ramamoorthy Sir, that time ARR hadn't got Oscars. Raja in his speech said " En uyarvu IvargaLin uyarvu, Rahmaanin uyarvu ivargaLin uyarvu". See his magnanity man!
a) He acknowledges ARR's uyarvu!(You guys need spoonfeed, so! :lol2 )
b) He means that Rahman's uyarvu is such a great rise that it deserves to be attributed to MSV & Ramamoorthy's porpaathangkaL, as equal as how IR puts his growth on their porpaathangkaL!
In TFM, at time, even Deva experienced uyarvu! he was continuously composing for Kamal/Rajini. But its Rahman's growth he considers as a great thing such that he takes rahman along with him and says to the world that we both are proudful sishyaas of Mellisai Mannars, thus lifting Rahman on a high pedestal!
All this after nobody asking IR! He cud have gladly skipped talking about about Rahman at all. who can force him?!?!?
Note1:- When Raja praises Rahman, keeps him in same pedestal, (EngaL uyarvu Mellisai mannargal's uyarvu) (Annan aathaara shruti, NaangaL Panjamam Shadjamam) It don't mean that Raja is keeping Rahman as his equal peer. Just that IR has no issues in agreeing Rahman as one of the great composers, thats all!
Note2: I am not belittling Deva, just saying that he is not as big as Rahman or so. Even Deva fans would agree :)
7. Directors Function:- Though there is no complaint on Raja regarding this event, just wanted to say how honest Raja was! The directors function where Raja and Bharathiraja were let on stage to speak. Raja who is noted as an arrogant guy, actually 1st started nicely, he remembered an incident where both rajas met and composed. After this, Barathiraja asked Do you remember our 1st meet. Then he said that Ithai kooda gnaabagam vechikaathavan eppadi uyir nanbanaa iruppaan? This is perfect open seendal! And now, ppl say Raja is arrogant! As if that is not enuf, this Barathiraja oLarified on stage that he is a guy as honest as Rajini! Punnaakku! Nee nermaiyaanavanaannu makkal sollanumdaa, nee illa! (sorry guys for that singularity)
All this Steve Jobs, Einstin et all were arrogant too. When? Even after the world had agreed and showered praise that they are Masters, Genius and Pinoeers of whatever they are into? Did our country, its govt, ppl, agree to the right extent, the genius of Raja? First athai pannuvom man! appuram Raja vai kurai solluvom. He is a man whom even Kamal haasan who don't bend for anybody, bows for the talent and even says he is his god! Its same baarathiyaar's principle "Arive Theivam" He is such a talent.
See the arrogance of Vikatan, Most of the TV channels except Raj/Jaya, and Magazines. What these ppl do? Had vikatan anytime wrote an analysis on the genius of Raja? does the CMs of TamilNadu do some great respect openly for Raja?!? Did Indian Govt respect him to the right extent? Does the Music colleges in India analyze his works? As the seniors didn't do the needful, today the juniors are not realizing the greatness of Raja. If you go to opposite camp and provoke them, see what they speak, Suppose if they say about the less offers and commercial position of Raja, even that can be let off. But man some ppl talk about his talent. There are ppl who think "Raja is just another olden days MD who composes tunes in aarmoniya petti, just that Raja has done some extra films, thats all".
Did anybody rectify all this? Nothing! But we expect Raja to be so low profile, so sweet and respond to any question they ask, IN A WAY YOU EXPECT!
Even the event where Raja and ARR got awards same time, isn't it the blunderous mistake of the stupid idiot reporter who asked "What do u think about u getting award along with Rahman" appo thaane ethaachum vambu varum? bleddy fellows.
Avana nirutha sollunga Raja sir niruthuvaaru! (appo kooda avasiyam illai, becos IMHO his behavior is almost perfect now itself! As I said before itself, not only by his musical talent, even in integrity too, he is like God! Avaroda Nermai Sutterikkum Nermai! Namma ellaam biskothu pasanga, leading plastic life!
Sakala,
Summa vittu velyadi irrukeenga. For same vijay movies IR gave good music in past.(Kaadalukku mariyadai, Friends etc). You may say that is Fassil movie. Vijay is not an incapable actor. He just choose to take safe route for success these days.
Vikatan is one of the worse magazine in this thing! Bleddy they were in support of avaaL's kacheri culture and were too much refraining from agreeing/acknowledging Raja's talent!
1. There was not even one word about music in Raja's 1st film AnnakkiLi
2. In Moonraam pirai review, these morons didn't say one word abt music and instead praise raja for leaving the BGM silent at some places :banghead:
3. Same in Naayagan which is Ir's 400th film review no word about music.
4. As if this was not enuf, every time they interview Raja, stupids they ask why Raja is very egositic, arrogant. As they cannot put it openly, they will ask indirectly
5. We know the musical geniusness of Raja, in these almost 40 years, there was not once a series article on Raja's music. But instead they ran a series for his photography and the poems he wrote for it! Idiots, leave what is Raja famous for, and needlessly highlight other areas which, most of them are not at all gonna remember
pammalar sir has posted a treasure in the memories thread - that is rAsA's interview to pEsum padam (primary cinema magazine those days) Nov 1976 issue.
That appeared sudachchuda at the time of annakkiLi silver jubilee!
Those are scanned images of the old mag! I'll try to type it and konjam konjamA reproduce in this thread :-)
mikka nanRi pammalar sir! Also, nanRi to pEsum padam mag!
Let me start...
பேசும் படம் (நவம்பர் 1976) நேர் காணல்
அன்னக்கிளி தந்த இளையராஜா
இந்த ஆண்டு இது வரை வெளிவந்த படங்களிலேயே நூறு நாட்களைத் தாண்டி, வெள்ளி விழாக் கொண்டாடும் ஒரே படம் 'அன்னக்கிளி'. ஒரு சாதாரண கருப்பு வெள்ளைப்படம் ஏனைய கலர்ப்படங்களை எல்லாம் மீறி வெற்றி வாகை சூடிக்கொண்டது. அதன் வெற்றிக்குரிய பல காரணங்களில் ஒன்று இளையராஜாவின் இனிமையான இசை. இன்று நகர வீதிகளிலும், பட்டிதொட்டிகளிலும் 'அன்னக்கிளி' படப்பாடல்கள் எங்கு நோக்கினும் ரீங்காரமிடுகின்றன.
திரையுலகில் இசையமைப்பாளர்கள் அறிமுகமாவது அபூர்வம். அப்படியே அறிமுகமானவர்களில் பலருக்கு தொடர்ந்தாற்போன்ற வாய்ப்புகளும் கிடைத்ததில்லை. ஆனால் இளையராஜா அறிமுகமான முதல் படத்தின் மூலமாகவே, இது வரை வேறு எந்த இசையமைப்பாளரும் பெற்றிடாத வரவேற்பைப்பெற்றார். 'அன்னக்கிளி'யின் பாடல்கள் கேட்டோர் மனத்தைக் கிறங்க வைக்கின்றன.
ஒவ்வொரு துறையிலும் திறமைசாலிகள் இருக்கத்தான் செய்கிறார்கள். ஆனால் அதைப் பலரின் மத்தியில் வெளிப்படுத்திக் காண்பிக்கும் போதுதான் அவர்களின் திறமை நமக்குத்தெரிய வருகிறது. அந்த வகையில் பார்க்கும்போது இளையராஜாவை விட பஞ்சு அருணாசலம் பாராட்டுக்குரியவர். காரணம் - இளையராஜாவின் திறனறிந்து தக்க தருணத்தில் பயன்படுத்தி அவரை வெளியுலகுக்கும் தெரியும் படிச்செய்தாரே, அதனால் தான்! ஒரு திறமைமிக்க இசையமைப்பாளரை தமிழ்த் திரையுலகுக்கு நல்கிட்ட பெருமை கதாசிரியர் பஞ்சு அருணாசலத்தையே சாரும்.
பெயரில் மட்டுமல்ல, வயதிலும் உருவத்திலும் இளையவரான இளையராஜாவை சமீபத்தில் சந்தித்தேன். அவருடன் அவருடைய சகோதரர்கள் பாஸ்கரும், அமர்சிங்கும் வந்திருந்தனர்.
...to be continued...
Look, the above portion clearly authenticates many things that we have been harping about in the hub.
- Raja's first movie was such an outstanding success, silver jubilee, and everyone acknowledged music as a main factor for that B&W movie's success right then!
i.e. The acknowledgement was not many years after, when Raja had a huge fan following.
Also, this success was against all odds.
Namely, no MGR-Sivaji as hero. No color. No big budget. Devaraj-Mohan were not a star director pair - like KB / Sridhar. Not a masAlA. Not a city-shiny-story but a village story. (I have still not seen this movie).
But the more interesting portion there is the setting for the interview.
It says, " அவருடன் அவருடைய சகோதரர்கள் பாஸ்கரும், அமர்சிங்கும் வந்திருந்தனர்.".
Means, the brothers went to meet the nirubar (possibly not in a great place to live yet, no office etc).
Note this and more as we walk thru the interview (and perhaps talk about humility-kilo-enna-vilai after that :-) )
sakala :notworthy: :clap: Nach! Agree word by word. I can feel the pain and disappointment in your posts. Definitely, many (as a fan) do not feel/analyse/understand how much pain Raja would have undergone all these years, instead they feel Raja didn't behave as per their idioms/rules. If they would have posted their concern (the other side of it) as Sakala pointed out, then we can understand their frustration. I mean, if they have expressed their happiness when Raja had talked nicely as per their rules, and also expressed their concerns, when Raja didn't get his deserved credit, then we can understand their love to this pity genius. Kurai mattumE sollikondirunthaal, it does not look right. On top of this, they take claim/pride in saying we are 'IR bashers'. Why do we want to classify ourselves like this, if we have so much good things to talk about Raja and his music and nullify our claim. If we are showing so much interest to post/acknowledge bad (even if it is true) about him, why not show the same interest in analyzing his music or atleast post your enjoyments when you listen to his music, so that everyone can enjoy your feelings. Is it too difficult?