I'm a hardcore Kamal fan and at the same time ready accept Kamal's flaws.Quote:
Originally Posted by shwas
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I'm a hardcore Kamal fan and at the same time ready accept Kamal's flaws.Quote:
Originally Posted by shwas
rajini doesnt have guts to back kamal in ways kamal did during rajini crisis..truthQuote:
Originally Posted by ramdas2005
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Originally Posted by rsubras
some time back Vennkiram had mentioned about 'nunippul meivadhu' - that applies to many issues here…
Kamal has always taken a strong stand when it comes to sensitive/controversial issues, for ex, the Babar masjid demolition - he could have kept quiet or made a generic statement and continued to make films - the man goes to Delhi to register a formal complaint - now was that a political move? I dont think so - because if it were, he could have easily joined the Congress or any other major party that was more than ready to welcome him as a candidate..personally many of us dont appreciate Kamal taking stands in these issues - the way VR's release was mercilessly butchered by the one community that he supported so strongly - makes us question his sanity - but then, he is open about it and at least takes a stance/stand - good or bad..
The few occasions where he has stumbled a bit - were the Cauvery water dispute actors rally - but then, NO actor/film industry personnel had anything sensible to say - Sathyaraj took it to a different level that made one wonder if film industry makkals should even be allowed to speak about such things in public..
Anyone who is a taxpayer and a citizen has the right to say anything about anything in a civilized country - Rajini or Kamal - but its the intent behind what they say about which incident/issue that matters..
Was it Rajini's serious intent to 'save' Tamil Nadu from the wily madam? I dont think so - it was an emotional outburst plus personal vendetta - coz madam apparently gave him a personal hard time over something (just FYKI, madam and Ilaiyaraaja did not see eye-to-eye as well - over some TN govt sponsored film)..
Plus it helped him being in the limelight every time a film of his releases, was probably an ancillary bonus factor..
Kamal has his own bizarre set of statements - but I seriously doubt if his intent is populism to get his movie to run - he would not have made Hey Ram in the first place is that was the intent! touching a super sensitive issue of direct action day riots/murder and rape in Kolkata, portraying things exactly as they were and giving Gandhi's assassin a human face, and ballsy enough to show the rise of right wing fascism in a montage of morphed images - he angered both the Congress and the BJP - No wonder he followed that up with Thenali..
Coming to the relevant issue - nadigar sangar is like their thai veedu - being two of the most influential ppl in the industry who are also members of the sangam, they did and do have a huge responsibility and direct say in the matters involved - Kamal did the right thing absolutely - in the one association - which is his bread, butter, lifeline, breath and passion!
Thats why Rajini either not taking sides initially or then choosing the wrong side in the end - makes him look worse than clumsy - to hell with the naming of the sangam - am talking about taking a principled stand - was Rajini privy to the wrongdoings of Sarath and co? whose side was he supporting - tacitly or openly?
In all likelihood, Kamal took a definitive stand knowing fully well the inside dealings of the whole building demolition matter and other wrongdoings that trickled out during different interviews of Radharavi, Poochi Murgugan, Sarathkumar, Vishal, S V Sekhar, producer Sundaram etc…
Rajini is in the industry for so many decades - he did not come in yesterday - this is his bread, butter and what not - that he takes a stance in other political issues and chooses to remain a mute spectator in this matter is very strange - dont you think so?
Total BS... While I fully understand that Kamal was backing Pandavar ani (Due to Nasser and Sivakumar) Rajni did not back Sarath Kumar and co...My opinion is that this entire election had become a Vijay TV Like drama and watching the speech by few noted personalities made me puke!!!, Lost my respect on Sarath Kumar, Radha Ravi and Radhika for the speech and of Course for Vishal and Karthi as well since they were on a mission to save the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saai
At the end of the day, this rupture may extend to the Producers council trying to oust Dhanu and elect Gnanavel Raja...
Prabhu. Sathyaraj, Surya, Vijay, Ajith, nobody opened their mouth. THat's how it had always been. Only KH and Sivakumar supported one over other.
Now the winners say the corruption charge case will be withdrawn. I wonder why should they withdraw the case??
Well what else you can expect from him/her? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by bimmer
whom? Telegraph Editor/Journalist? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
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Originally Posted by thamiz
Wrong - Sathyaraj's open support to Vishal and co - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xRMULMIm5Y
KH endorsed Naser , which is not a surprise .Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
Other than that , he didn't even open his mouth .
For Vishal and Karthik, it is important as it is about their Council. If public takes extra interest, why would they be blamed? Afterall, we had chief ministers only from cine industry for decades.Quote:
Originally Posted by bimmer
Endorsing someone means what? It is not his support? You are really funny! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
as though there has been so many elections that has happened for actors council before.Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
Kamal is known to take a stand on what he believes is right - he stood up against his guru Balachander and the producers during fefsi-director union issue and openly supported fefsi.
Did he condemn Sarathkumar yet? For badmouthing Kamalhassan?Quote:
Originally Posted by irir123
did anyone condemn satyaraj for thrashing rajnikanth on open stage?Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
No big actors ever cared about this nadigar sangam election ever. You better know the history!Quote:
Originally Posted by Saai
May be because of that his hero status become villain and comedian in tamil cinema! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Saai
madam - coz there has never been a nadigar sangam election for a looong time!!! critical reasoning training edunga!Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
No one gave him attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saai
You havent seen Bahubali? :lol2:Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
Raja rani paarthenQuote:
Originally Posted by Saai
Have not the Baahubali in which Sathyaraj acted as a "hero"! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Saai
sema comedy ponga!Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
A guy who thrashed rajni on open stage is still playing pivotal roles in movies. For shivaji movie shankar team wanted him for villain role and he :lol2: to them!!
A dog bit me. I did not bite back. May be you are brave and bite back and scare the dog! That's your wish and your life and your biting skill! Should I worry about it? NOOO! :rotfl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Saai
My response was to your question if satyaraj condemned sarathkumar's speech against kamal. If you don't expect anyone to condemn satyaraj for thrashing rajni, why would you ask that about sarath's speech!Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
shabbaaa.. munnaye spoon feeding pannirukalam!
regarding the usage of words dog etc., I am not a low class creature like you to use such words...so would refrain
Good idea! Keep up with your words! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Saai
sure, you try to improve yourself. That would be a good idea :)Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
The hidden stories about Nadigar Sangam elections which will never get reported
The tales of poor artistes, irate policemen and disillusioned media-persons, which played-out on the side lines of Nadigar Sangam elections
- See more at: http://www.thenewsminute.com/article....cyhghXCi.dpuf
For the film-stars of Tamil Nadu, especially those who were fighting it out for control of the Nadigar Sangam, Sunday was a long day. The polling at the venue started very early, and by 8:30am Rajinikanth had casted his vote and left. There was afternoon drama thanks to the ‘Vishal attack’, and an evening dose of theatrics too - a clash between Sangam members and the police, followed by a long wait for the results. It was not until midnight that the results finally emerged.
The reportage on the Nadigar Sangam issue, including our own on TNM, was done ad nauseam. The media reportage has been focused, for obvious reasons, on the stars. But there are those stories hidden in plain sight, out for everyone to see but for no one to report. They are not juicy pieces of filmy gossip, but stories of the lesser known actors living in near-penury, of the hundreds of reporters, cameraman and technicians sweating it out to beam every single development of the day live to viewers who are hooked, and of the battalions of cops who stood there all day for the elections in a private association of 3000-odd members.
Take the case of the wheel-chair bound Chandra and her friends. Chandra says she is the wife of Kundumani, the heavily-built popular actor of the MGR era. She is now more than 80 years old. She cannot walk and has a low voice. But she was at the venue, CSI St. Ebbas School on RK Salai, along with two other drama-artistes friends of her age. The anger among them was palpable, and cut both ways. “We are living with a lot of difficulty,” says Chandra, “but we have never seen something like this happen,” she says confounded at how the association, which she has been a member of for decades, has become a public issue. Her friend Vijaya steps in with a sharp attack, “What drama! Is this how we fight? They have shamed all of us by making it such a public affair,” says Vijaya.
Their concerns, initially, are mystifying. Their association has not helped them much they say, but they are angrier at the dirty linen being washed in public. Is it not good for them that their issues are getting more attention? Yes, and then their real grouse emerges – they are still on the sidelines. They were ignored then, and they remain ignored now. All the noise about the Nadigar Sangam is still about Vishal, Sarath Kumar and Radharavi, not about these poor old artistes who need help.
There are other similar stories of desperation and disdain. “How have they helped us? When my son got married, I got Rs. 1000 from them. Not even enough to pay for the flowers,” says Rajasekharan, who came all the way from Karailkal to cast his vote. He must be in his late 60s, but he had the strength to meander around the media all day under the hot sun hoping to peek into one of the TV cameras so he could get a few seconds of ever-elusive fame.
“I left and took a job at the Anna University, because I was tired of it,” says SK Moorthy, a retired actor whose father was also a stage artiste. “I got frustrated moving from one place to another, so Kalaignar helped me get a job at the University,” he says. He does not act anymore, but he lives in the past, and spent hours trying to remind other artistes as to who he was.
An equally uneasy sight was that of the hundreds of policemen standing guard at the venue. The electorate was made up of less than 3200 votes, but at least 300 cops were at the venue for security. A police source said that at least 4 Assistant Commissioners, 20 inspectors, 40 sub-inspectors and a couple of hundred constables were pressed into service - all for the elections to the governing body of a private association. And after the Vishal drama in the afternoon, even a Deputy Commissioner, an IPS officer, had to be called in to control the situation. There was believable speculation that rowdies were on the prowl, packing knives under their white shirts, ready to start a bloody street-fight if things came to that. All the cops stayed till well past midnight, thanks to the threat perception.
One of the senior cops was combing the area for anti-social elements and asking people to move away. He pointed to one young, seemingly pissed-drunk chap, asking him to leave the campus. That guy was cocky. He eyeballed the officer, with the “do-what-you-want” look, and asked, “What? I’ll be here.” I could see the police officer seethe with anger. But he kept his cool and asked one of the other officers to deal with him. “Look at all these guys I have to deal with,” he said to me, almost like he had resigned to his fate. I asked him if the city police stint was better than rural postings. “Initially I was cynical about the city police, but now I am better,” he said, “I have the hope that good things can be done here.” But here he was, policing hot-headed punks thanks to some ego-driven film stars, and I wondered if it was one of those days which brought back cynicism in him. But he was clear about who to blame, “It is the media which has made this a big issue,” he said.
The real story, an untold one at that, of the Nadigar Sangam elections is that of the news media. This was perhaps the first instance in the history of Tamil TV news media where an undeserving event was made larger than life almost entirely by the media’s hunger for eyeballs. Had it not been for the media, this simply would not have reached the massive proportions that it did. That an issue among 3000-odd people became one which hooked millions was only because of the media.
Puthiya Thalaimurai alone had 8 cameras at the venue, along with at least 8 reporters at any given time. They had jimmy-jip cameras and had also set up a makeshift studio in a caravan. Anchors and guests were going live from the location all through the day. Production staff arrived at 4am in the morning to set things up, some even spent the night there after parking the Outdoor Broadcast vans at the venue the previous night. No other channel was as enthusiastic about the elections as PT, but Thanthi TV came close, with at least 4 units if not more. Not to mention the tens of other TV cameramen, print photographers, web journalists and support staff, slogging it out all day, and all night. “Not even for MLA or MP elections did we work so hard” was a common refrain. And yet, we all stood there, jostling with each other, trying to report the latest news development.
- See more at: http://www.thenewsminute.com/article....cyhghXCi.dpuf
heheheheQuote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
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Originally Posted by thamiz
விதண்டாவாதம் - vennkiram was right about you!
You said Sathyaraj (amongst others) did not open their mouth about the Nadigar sangam issue - I said no he did - and posted that video as proof..
Whether Sathyaraj or the others say anything about what Sarathkumar said about Kamal Haasan is irrelevant here - I would be surprised if anyone would say anything about it at all - they do not have to - it has become fairly obvious that a building built upon the sweat and blood of 100s of artistes - has been demolished inappropriately by Sarathkumar and his machaan - now he and his Mrs have effectively put themselves in a hole - it would not be surprising if their careers - be it films/TV or politics takes a nosedive after this..
The personal attack on stage was a pusillanimous attempt to vent his frustration at being exposed of his fraud - therefore, responding to his attack - is no responsibility of any of the big names - not that Kamal needs anyone to speak against Sarath and co - in fact, it would not be surprising if Kamal actually ends up forgiving them in the long run..
உங்களுக்கு என்ன, Kamal மேல இருக்கற ஆத்மார்த்த வெறுப்புக்கு சரத் குமாரோட speech - ஒரு sweet spot - கொண்டாடுங்க - உங்களுக்கு மரியாதை இங்க - எப்படி சரத் குமாருக்கு குறைஞ்சுக்கிட்டே போகுதோ - இந்த hubல குறைஞ்சு கிட்டே போகுது - நீங்க தான் அதுக்கு பொறுப்பு - உடம்ப பாத்துக்குங்க
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Originally Posted by Saai
No no no - they were all busy celebrating the rip-roaring success of blockbusters like Kochadayaan and Lingaa - no time for a box office dud like Bahubali
நாட்டாமை சொல்லிட்டாரு! இவரு வந்து ஆமா போடுறாரு! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by irir123
No we were celebrating the success of blockku busters "utama villain" and "paapapanaasam". They made 200+ crores! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by irir123
உங்களுக்கு Dr. போன்றோர் சேவை ரொம்ப தேவை - அவர் உங்களுக்கு வச்சாரே ஒரு வை - சும்மா அதிருசில்ல! அதுதான் உங்களுக்கு லாயக்கு - அவர் rangeக்கு போக வேண்டாமேன்னு கொஞ்சம் அமைதி காக்கறோம் - சரியா?Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
போயி, இன்னும் நாலஞ்சு இடங்கள்ள தெருவோரமா நின்னு கூவி கூவி விக்கற வேலைய பாருங்க - கிடக்கற சல்லி காசு வச்சு உங்க அபிமான நடிகர 'வாள வைக்கும் தெய்வமா' படத்தை தயாரிச்சு படம் ஓடாமவே blockbuster கொண்டாடுங்க - யாரு வேண்டாம்னா?
அப்படியே, கொஞ்சம் Arnoldஐயும் Rajiniக்காக dupe போட சொல்லி, படத்த முடிசாங்கன்னா, Arnold body building senju உடம்ப எத்தினதே ரஜினி குடுத்த adviceதான்னு ஊரு முழுக்கு சொல்லி கொண்டாடுங்க.. சித்தன் போக்கு சிவம் போக்கு..
இன்னைக்கு நீங்கதான் நாட்டாமையா??Quote:
Originally Posted by irir123
"ஆமா" சொல்ல ஆளைக் காணோம்?!
I seriously don't know whats happening to the hub.Every Single thread has some tu tu main main ..
Miss the days when it used to be constructive discussion....
dilbert etc al., she is screaming for you guys to backup..where are you guys?Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
You never ever keep your words. I KNOW IT! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Saai
Seems like you started some constructive discussion! Or not? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by cuty2sweety
You never comprehend properly, I know it!Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
".....like you to use such words...so would refrain" - It means I would refrain from using such words.
Seriously I pay little attention to what you say. Let it be Baahubali stuff or what you want to refrain from. So, it does not matter. You are going to continue the way you are no matter what words you use. I will continue pay little attention to your posts. I find them worthless, I dont mean to offend you. I am being extremely honest! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Saai