World Cricket II

[ajithfederer]

Our Mod here was just mouthwatering at that prospect when Philander made his debut. Just like an ECB Hiring scout.

Philandavar would be a good start

[ajithfederer]

Ummai mattum kekkuraennu nenaikadheer. I am asking this question to all purists. What is wrong in playing that format?. Umaku pudikalaina appdi orama poi ukkaralame. How do you expect everyone to accept your line of thinking?.

Kiumble, Dravid. Sachin ellAm T20 aaduradhai ellAm oththukkavE mudiyalai. idhellAm oru format-nu kaari thuppittu varavENdaamA.

[wizzy]

P_R unga tuk-u

remember reading a Brit who said these overseas recruits were their attempts to ape all the great sides at that time..70s/80s saw Carib cricketers in their ranks..90s was turn of OZ(Hollioakes/Tim Ambrose/Mullaly/Craig White) and the entire pantheon of Protea cricketers in 00s

BCCI should help Narine/Narayan/Narayanan realize his test dreams..WICB and their status quo

[Plum]

The thing is if you are taling pride in a case-by-case approach,then, instead of taking it generic-case-by-generic-case (i.e.) White Saffers going to England for plumbing is not unheard so a Saffer for 30 years of his life can play for England, you should take it as specific-case-by-specific-case. (i.e.) Strauss and Prior moved to England as children and were products of English system so it is fair for them to play for England but not so for KP and Trott. if it is fair for KP and Trott to play for England, it is fair for India to play Roach, Rampaul, De Lange, or heck, we'll settle for Bracewell or Southee.

[P_R]

Adhaavadhu naanga veLLakaaranai hire paNNa koodaadhu. Ninga yaarai vENA hire paNNikkalaam. Idhula "we take good things from all directions"-nu perumai vERa pEsuvInga? . Allow us to hire veLLaikAra fast bowlers. appuRam nAngaLum "aanO bhadhrahA krathavO yanthu vishvathahA" sollikkaROm

thirumba thirumba pEsura nee
Indiavula ennikku SAfrican vElai thEdi vandhirukkaan.

Other points to ponder: it was sat that time imply not possible for a Saffer coloured to get respect and a top position in England but Oliveira was absorbed. By your defn, that is odd. Since there was not much record of Coloured saffers pozhaippukkAga England vandhing and rising to the top, by your logic Oliveria shouldnt have been absorbed in the national team but he was - and you seem to be proud of the fact today. Yet you argue against a similar situation in India.

Specious argument. Oppressed SAF blacks, moottai thookki pozhaikkavaavadhu England pOyiruppAinga. Not to India. idhellAm ungaLukkE theriyin. irundhaalum both-are-same-nu veembukku argue paNreenga.

Adhu nadakkalaam - India shouldn't recruit de Lange? (You thought I was giving you a free hit with Oliveira ? ). Englishmen who weren't doing great in Britain coming to India in search of fame and fortune - idhellaam 18th centurylErundhu nadakkaRadhu dhaan. Enna oru 64 varushamA konjam koRainju irukku. So idhuvum natural dhaan. VaralARRai puratti pArungaL amaicharE!

Oh idhula mEra bhaarath gandhi magaan vERaiyA

[P_R]

Today, you are talking like those little Englanders.

Point totally rejected.
I am not arguing every tradition to be preserved as I mentioned in response to wizzy, several pages back.
Certain traditions that suppress, oppress and depress have to be counteracted.

But illAdha traditionai, kaasu kuduththu cricket-la mattum create paNNuvEn-nu solradhu dhaan unnatural 'ngREn.

[P_R]

This is just like corporate and club culture -

No

which you think should not be mixed with Test cricket.

appadillAm enga sonnEn?

You are actually going against your own ideals in your England Cricket mOham.

deduction-A?

That's how pathetic your state of mind is.

Conclusion

neengaLA oNNu pEsikkureenga.

[P_R]

Umaku pudikalaina appdi orama poi ukkaralame. How do you expect everyone to accept your line of thinking?.

avvaLO democratic-A, open minded-A irundhA naan yEn inga vandhu kuththa vaikkuREn.

kaiyai madakki eRiyuradhulErndhu ovvoNNuththukkum saNdai pOda vENdi irukku. yEn-nA makkaL sulabamA yEththukkaraanga.

[P_R]

The thing is if you are taling pride in a case-by-case approach,then, instead of taking it generic-case-by-generic-case (i.e.) White Saffers going to England for plumbing is not unheard so a Saffer for 30 years of his life can play for England, you should take it as specific-case-by-specific-case. (i.e.) Strauss and Prior moved to England as children and were products of English system so it is fair for them to play for England but not so for KP and Trott. if it is fair for KP and Trott to play for England, it is fair for India to play Roach, Rampaul, De Lange, or heck, we'll settle for Bracewell or Southee.

Many KPs and Trotts study in SA and find jobs in England, emigrate etc.
Whether any Southees come to India with dreams?

Our point of difference is: why can't cricket be the starting point? Why should it always be plumbing.
That is where I disagree.

In cricket is matches what is going on in rest of English society. Hence the feeling that it is 'natural'. Which does not imply there is no conscious mechanics of hiring.
Whereas if India did it, then it would be a phenomenon exclusive to cricket, unheard of elsewhere in society. Hence I reject.

idhai vida eppadi irakki kaatturadhu?

[Plum]

You are the one ungalukku mattume puriya koodiya logicla pEsuRadhu. Your mode of argument is when ynnot justify something logically "naan apdithaan democratic illai" etc. In other word you are upholding naadharithanam against things you can not tolerate.agree othi e framed and call England naadhaaris once. Infact you havelready implicitly accepted that but accept explicitly and we can stop this here. When I get a goodnnection, I can do a n by point rebuttal but ippo page load pradhe kastamaa irukku.